Just to check = so unvaxxed people still can go to malls until 19 Oct ??

[porcaputtana]

It's a risk-benefit analysis...Im not in a high risk category. Not obese. No underlying conditions like
hypertension, heart issues or blood sugar problems. My resting pulse rate is that of a finely conditioned athlete.
Does this mean Im invincible and won't die if I get covid? I dont know, but Im willing to roll the dice.
It's a personal health decision...I will never vax myself to make some unhealthy, obese fucker feel safer or
less threatened by disease.

Plus I will never take a vax that has been rolled out in a year when the normal safety protocols demand 10-15
years of trials and development. Many corners and safety processes are circumvented in the former way.

However, I know many members here are senior citizens and I'd certainly not talk them out of considering it.
If they feel it's right fro them. Inform yourself before you give consent. Don't let anyone shame or coerce you
into taking it because before they jab you, they will make you sign a form that says you want this jab, so later
you can't post a finger at them

Many of my good fiends are very smart people and fully vaxxed on mrna but that's their decision.

We have a rule: we do not ask each other vaxx status and probe each others choices. I only found
out they vaxxed because they told me and I never made them feel bad about it.
No point....once vaxxed cannot unvax so save my breath.

Good luck to all, whatever you decide.

definition of gung Ho - brave but stupid

 

[Leongsam]

IT'S HELEN AND IVAN FROM PSLE AGAIN.

“ *WHY* *CAN’T* *I* *GO* *IN* ?"

Helen: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Helen: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Helen: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But he’s sick!’
Helen: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Yes.’
Ivan: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Ivan: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Helen: ‘It protects them.'
Ivan: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread COVID?’
Helen: ‘Oh no. They can spread COVID just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Ivan: ‘I don’t even know what I’m hearing anymore. Look. I’m not sick.'
Helen: ‘Ok.’
Ivan: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Helen: ‘That’s right.’
Ivan: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Certainly.’
Ivan: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Helen: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Ivan: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Helen: ‘That’s fine.’
Ivan: ‘Now I can go in?’
Helen: ‘Absolutely not!’
Ivan: ‘But I have a mask on!’
Helen: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask on.’
Helen: ‘I know.’
Ivan: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask on? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Helen: ‘Take it easy, buddy.’
Ivan: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Helen: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Ivan: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Helen: ‘Correct.’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Helen: ‘But you can get sick. You need to be protected, that's why you can't come in.'
Ivan: ‘But if I pay money for an ART test and prove that I'm not sick, I can come in and you don't have to protect me anymore?'
Helen: ‘Yea, coz it proves that you are not sick and they can't get sick from you’
Ivan: ‘I thought you said you want to protect me from getting sick? But now you say if I'm proven to be healthy, then I can enter cos I can't get the vaccinated people sick. So how in the heck does that work?'
Helen: ‘Because you are unvaccinated and vaccinated people can catch your germs and get sick'
Ivan: 'So isn’t really to protect me from getting sick, is it?'
Helen:' I'm just doing my job, I don't know anything'

End...scene...

 

[sweetiepie]

IT'S HELEN AND IVAN FROM PSLE AGAIN.

“ *WHY* *CAN’T* *I* *GO* *IN* ?"

Helen: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Helen: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Helen: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But he’s sick!’
Helen: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Yes.’
Ivan: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Ivan: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Helen: ‘It protects them.'
Ivan: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread COVID?’
Helen: ‘Oh no. They can spread COVID just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Ivan: ‘I don’t even know what I’m hearing anymore. Look. I’m not sick.'
Helen: ‘Ok.’
Ivan: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Helen: ‘That’s right.’
Ivan: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Certainly.’
Ivan: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Helen: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Ivan: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Helen: ‘That’s fine.’
Ivan: ‘Now I can go in?’
Helen: ‘Absolutely not!’
Ivan: ‘But I have a mask on!’
Helen: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask on.’
Helen: ‘I know.’
Ivan: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask on? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Helen: ‘Take it easy, buddy.’
Ivan: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Helen: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Ivan: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Helen: ‘Correct.’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Helen: ‘But you can get sick. You need to be protected, that's why you can't come in.'
Ivan: ‘But if I pay money for an ART test and prove that I'm not sick, I can come in and you don't have to protect me anymore?'
Helen: ‘Yea, coz it proves that you are not sick and they can't get sick from you’
Ivan: ‘I thought you said you want to protect me from getting sick? But now you say if I'm proven to be healthy, then I can enter cos I can't get the vaccinated people sick. So how in the heck does that work?'
Helen: ‘Because you are unvaccinated and vaccinated people can catch your germs and get sick'
Ivan: 'So isn’t really to protect me from getting sick, is it?'
Helen:' I'm just doing my job, I don't know anything'

End...scene...

This kind of question is too easy for psle and K2. Should test the special needs level or at most K1 KNN add the test scenario for in order to control crowd for safe leestance cordoned off areas and let people crowd together for safe leestance.

 

[sweetiepie]

This kind of question is too easy for psle and K2. Should test the special needs level or at most K1 KNN add the test scenario for in order to control crowd for safe leestance cordoned off areas and let people crowd together for safe leestance.

Name the act or play as San Geng Pangemic. Best invite the Liang po po to woo woo woo in it

 

[nayr69sg]

IT'S HELEN AND IVAN FROM PSLE AGAIN.

“ *WHY* *CAN’T* *I* *GO* *IN* ?"

Helen: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Helen: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Helen: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But he’s sick!’
Helen: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Yes.’
Ivan: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Ivan: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Helen: ‘It protects them.'
Ivan: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread COVID?’
Helen: ‘Oh no. They can spread COVID just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Ivan: ‘I don’t even know what I’m hearing anymore. Look. I’m not sick.'
Helen: ‘Ok.’
Ivan: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Helen: ‘That’s right.’
Ivan: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Certainly.’
Ivan: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Helen: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Ivan: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Helen: ‘That’s fine.’
Ivan: ‘Now I can go in?’
Helen: ‘Absolutely not!’
Ivan: ‘But I have a mask on!’
Helen: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask on.’
Helen: ‘I know.’
Ivan: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask on? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Helen: ‘Take it easy, buddy.’
Ivan: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Helen: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Ivan: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Helen: ‘Correct.’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Helen: ‘But you can get sick. You need to be protected, that's why you can't come in.'
Ivan: ‘But if I pay money for an ART test and prove that I'm not sick, I can come in and you don't have to protect me anymore?'
Helen: ‘Yea, coz it proves that you are not sick and they can't get sick from you’
Ivan: ‘I thought you said you want to protect me from getting sick? But now you say if I'm proven to be healthy, then I can enter cos I can't get the vaccinated people sick. So how in the heck does that work?'
Helen: ‘Because you are unvaccinated and vaccinated people can catch your germs and get sick'
Ivan: 'So isn’t really to protect me from getting sick, is it?'
Helen:' I'm just doing my job, I don't know anything'

End...scene...

Since when is it necessary to explain AND have people fully understand AND ACCEPT a law or rule set by SG govt?

Examples. Why is it chewing gum is banned in Singapore? Why is it no durians on MRT trains? Why no drinking or eating on MRT trains and buses?

Just follow the law.

 

[dredd]

Since when is it necessary to explain AND have people fully understand AND ACCEPT a law or rule set by SG govt?

Examples. Why is it chewing gum is banned in Singapore? Why is it no durians on MRT trains? Why no drinking or eating on MRT trains and buses?

Just follow the law.

Just follow law....

 

[dredd]

Since when is it necessary to explain AND have people fully understand AND ACCEPT a law or rule set by SG govt?

Examples. Why is it chewing gum is banned in Singapore? Why is it no durians on MRT trains? Why no drinking or eating on MRT trains and buses?

Just follow the law.

But seriously... we live in a world of different views and ideas. It is impossible to accede to every whim and fancy. An effective gahment is one that make calls whether they are popular or not. The rest can have their say, freedom of choice, speech or whatever but it won't change a thing.

I hate to say this, but he may be right after all...

 

[Leongsam]

But seriously... we live in a world of different views and ideas. It is impossible to accede to every whim and fancy. An effective gahment is one that make calls whether they are popular or not. The rest can have their say, freedom of choice, speech or whatever but it won't change a thing.

I hate to say this, but he may be right after all...

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It doesn't matter if they are not popular as long as the calls are right.

Problems start when bad calls are made.

 

[dredd]

It doesn't matter if they are not popular as long as the calls are right.

Problems start when bad calls are made.

Agreed. But what is bad to some is good for others and what is good for some is bad for the rest. That will always be the constant.

 

[nayr69sg]

But seriously... we live in a world of different views and ideas. It is impossible to accede to every whim and fancy. An effective gahment is one that make calls whether they are popular or not. The rest can have their say, freedom of choice, speech or whatever but it won't change a thing.

I hate to say this, but he may be right after all...

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He is right.

If you allow every single person to decide what they want or dont want. You will get....chaos.

But seriously that's what the Medical Colleges want drs to do when it comes to treating patients.

This is why what you see now with covid 19 is a result of all this patient autonomy. Patients have been so used to telling drs what to do.

Chaos.

 

[zhihau]

End...scene...

Is this like Animal Farm?

 

[nayr69sg]

It doesn't matter if they are not popular as long as the calls are right.

Problems start when bad calls are made.

When it comes to medicine what about patient autonomy?

The medical colleges very smart they also throw in non maleficence. That means sure do whatever patients want but whatever is done must do no harm.

 

[nayr69sg]

Agreed. But what is bad to some is good for others and what is good for some is bad for the rest. That will always be the constant.

Some things are bad for all. But people do choose to do bad things to themselves.

Suicide. Alcoholism. Opioid addiction. Gambling addiction.

 

[OrLanChowHorFun]

Forgive me for asking. So why don't you get vaccinated and be done with it? Sinopharm, novavax if you're not a fan of mRNA.

all vaccines are dangerous

i chose Sinopharm for my mom since she insisted on getting vaxxed despite my repeated warnings over the last year

Sinovac is the least dangerous but now very hard to get and very expensive and must wait

by the way, Novavax is similar to Sinovac or Sinopharm ? will it be free ? i very cheapskate one

 

[tobelightlight]

vaccines are dangerous

Correct.

 

[Datingafter35]

IT'S HELEN AND IVAN FROM PSLE AGAIN.

“ *WHY* *CAN’T* *I* *GO* *IN* ?"

Helen: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Helen: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Helen: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But he’s sick!’
Helen: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Yes.’
Ivan: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Ivan: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Helen: ‘It protects them.'
Ivan: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread COVID?’
Helen: ‘Oh no. They can spread COVID just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Ivan: ‘I don’t even know what I’m hearing anymore. Look. I’m not sick.'
Helen: ‘Ok.’
Ivan: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Helen: ‘That’s right.’
Ivan: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Certainly.’
Ivan: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Helen: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Ivan: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Helen: ‘That’s fine.’
Ivan: ‘Now I can go in?’
Helen: ‘Absolutely not!’
Ivan: ‘But I have a mask on!’
Helen: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Ivan: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask on.’
Helen: ‘I know.’
Ivan: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask on? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Helen: ‘Take it easy, buddy.’
Ivan: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Helen: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Ivan: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Helen: ‘Correct.’
Ivan: ‘Why not?’
Helen: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Ivan: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Ivan: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Helen: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Ivan: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Helen: ‘But you can get sick. You need to be protected, that's why you can't come in.'
Ivan: ‘But if I pay money for an ART test and prove that I'm not sick, I can come in and you don't have to protect me anymore?'
Helen: ‘Yea, coz it proves that you are not sick and they can't get sick from you’
Ivan: ‘I thought you said you want to protect me from getting sick? But now you say if I'm proven to be healthy, then I can enter cos I can't get the vaccinated people sick. So how in the heck does that work?'
Helen: ‘Because you are unvaccinated and vaccinated people can catch your germs and get sick'
Ivan: 'So isn’t really to protect me from getting sick, is it?'
Helen:' I'm just doing my job, I don't know anything'

End...scene...

I'm confused because it makes sense and I don't have a degree.

 

[Leongsam]

 

[dredd]

all vaccines are dangerous

i chose Sinopharm for my mom since she insisted on getting vaxxed despite my repeated warnings over the last year

Sinovac is the least dangerous but now very hard to get and very expensive and must wait

by the way, Novavax is similar to Sinovac or Sinopharm ? will it be free ? i very cheapskate one

Wait... your mom wants the vaccine and you have been trying to talk her out of it?

 

[porcaputtana]

Wait... your mom wants the vaccine and you have been trying to talk her out of it?

What would Confucius say ????

 

[glockman]

all vaccines are dangerous

i chose Sinopharm for my mom since she insisted on getting vaxxed despite my repeated warnings over the last year

Sinovac is the least dangerous but now very hard to get and very expensive and must wait

by the way, Novavax is similar to Sinovac or Sinopharm ? will it be free ? i very cheapskate one

Novavax should be free, since the government is administering it.