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Josie Minus her Pussycats Tonight 10pm on CNA interview with Balji & Debbie Soon
- Thread starter Porfirio Rubirosa
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shOUTloud,
AWARE cannot fall so easily. True, no doubt you can just get up and create another organization - but there is alot of painstaking work, e.g alliances, collateral, branding, etc involved, and it will take awhile before AWARE v2 will reach its current level right now.
More importantly, is that this AWARE episode will set the tone for future Christian takeovers. I have nothing against Christians if they establish or take over a group known to have Christian roots, but I will speak out if they take over a group that is supposed to be secular, and for all, and they took it over in ways that are not proper.
If a secular organization can fall to religion just like that, it does not bode well. It essentially encourages any group with motives to walk into an organization, attempt a putsch, and essentially steal the hard work done by the legacy leaders of an organization. How would you like it if you took the hard work of painting and decorating a house thinking you'll be living in it, and after you finished painting it, someone else just walks in and chase you away?
AWARE cannot fall so easily. True, no doubt you can just get up and create another organization - but there is alot of painstaking work, e.g alliances, collateral, branding, etc involved, and it will take awhile before AWARE v2 will reach its current level right now.
More importantly, is that this AWARE episode will set the tone for future Christian takeovers. I have nothing against Christians if they establish or take over a group known to have Christian roots, but I will speak out if they take over a group that is supposed to be secular, and for all, and they took it over in ways that are not proper.
If a secular organization can fall to religion just like that, it does not bode well. It essentially encourages any group with motives to walk into an organization, attempt a putsch, and essentially steal the hard work done by the legacy leaders of an organization. How would you like it if you took the hard work of painting and decorating a house thinking you'll be living in it, and after you finished painting it, someone else just walks in and chase you away?
Alamak my Thread title turned out to be not quite correct...Josie did in fact turn up with one of the Pussycats...however this Pussycat appeared to be a Lioness by the name of Mo
:p...I mean going by that interview, one may have been left wondering whether Mo was President and Josie the Treasurer
...even Debbie and Balji appeared to look confused at times, as for Loh Chee Kong, did I glimpse a cheeky smirk on his face:p
Best quote had to come from Josie though with her PR speak promo "Women under My Wings" new proposed programme...I almost heard Bette Midler when she uttered those words
:p...I mean going by that interview, one may have been left wondering whether Mo was President and Josie the Treasurer...even Debbie and Balji appeared to look confused at times, as for Loh Chee Kong, did I glimpse a cheeky smirk on his face:pBest quote had to come from Josie though with her PR speak promo "Women under My Wings" new proposed programme...I almost heard Bette Midler when she uttered those words
My overall impression is that the usurpers bit off more than they can chew. I think their original plan was to take over as many ExCo positions as possible but leave the Presidency intact. This way they can manipulate their Queen ant to push their fundie agenda while they lurk in the shadows.
Like any sensible person, Ms Nazar will have none of it so she quit. This turned a fundie infiltration into a fundie takeover. Now Josie and friends have been caught in the spotlight with their panties down.
Last night's program reflected poorly on Josie. She must be the only leader in recent history who admits she has no idea and needs time to sort things out.
Like any sensible person, Ms Nazar will have none of it so she quit. This turned a fundie infiltration into a fundie takeover. Now Josie and friends have been caught in the spotlight with their panties down.
Last night's program reflected poorly on Josie. She must be the only leader in recent history who admits she has no idea and needs time to sort things out.
Quite a fair reasonable objective take on this issue...I am also curious to hear from Dr Kanwaljit Soin and Claire Chiang on this matter as both are former AWARE presidents
THE BUZZ
Aware: Too much shrieking, too little explaining
By Tan Mae Lynn
April 20, 2009
I AM woman, hear my sisters shriek. Apologies to Helen Reddy, who in the '70s, sang the inspirational and empowering line: 'I am woman, hear me roar.'
TNP FILE PICTURE
Sadly, what has been happening at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has been neither inspirational nor empowering.
It has been loud, yes, and shrill rather than resounding - with all the dignity and decorum of a cat fight.
Ladies, I am embarrassed.
And I say this of the actions of both the incoming team as well as the old guard.
It is doubtful if the events of the past couple of weeks, following the association's elections, reflect its founding goals of achieving social equality.
Both the power-grabbers and the old guard are to blame for how ugly things have become, and the less than glowing coverage Aware has attracted in the media.
First, how could the old guard not have suspected anything when their membership numbers spiked over the last few months?
Indeed, it appeared that they had not found anything amiss until one of their own was badly defeated in the election for vice-president.
It was only then that they checked and realised that an overwhelming majority of those who had turned up to vote were new members.
The old guard should reflect on whether they have been receptive to fresh ideas and open to thoughts of rejuvenating the organisation - and whether they were even (pardon the pun) aware of what was going on around them.
One cannot help but suspect they may have operated like an elitist 'old girls' club.
On the other side is a group that appears like a bunch of bullies in its bid for power.
Did they think they could grab power without having to deal with public scrutiny?
They certainly have some explaining to do, after having made such a move at a well-known, well-established organisation.
But they have said little. They haven't really opened up to queries and their two statements have not exactly cleared the air.
What they stand for
Surely, if they choose to take over such a high-profile organisation in such a dramatic fashion, they must be prepared to talk about who they are, what they stand for and how they plan to implement change.
As educated women, they should know that in any election regardless of scale, the candidates should make their views and commitment known.
In Aware's latest statement, its new president, Ms Josie Lau, asked: 'Why have some people cast aspersions on our good intentions?... Does the old guard harbour an alternative agenda? If so, they should disclose their motives and objectives fully and honestly.'
How ironic.
She and her team have not answered those questions themselves. The public have been kept in the dark about these 'good intentions'.
It would be naive to expect people to grant them full confidence without being fully informed.
I'm not a member of Aware and after this, I doubt I'll ever be one.
THE BUZZ
Aware: Too much shrieking, too little explaining
By Tan Mae Lynn
April 20, 2009
I AM woman, hear my sisters shriek. Apologies to Helen Reddy, who in the '70s, sang the inspirational and empowering line: 'I am woman, hear me roar.'
TNP FILE PICTURE
Sadly, what has been happening at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has been neither inspirational nor empowering.
It has been loud, yes, and shrill rather than resounding - with all the dignity and decorum of a cat fight.
Ladies, I am embarrassed.
And I say this of the actions of both the incoming team as well as the old guard.
It is doubtful if the events of the past couple of weeks, following the association's elections, reflect its founding goals of achieving social equality.
Both the power-grabbers and the old guard are to blame for how ugly things have become, and the less than glowing coverage Aware has attracted in the media.
First, how could the old guard not have suspected anything when their membership numbers spiked over the last few months?
Indeed, it appeared that they had not found anything amiss until one of their own was badly defeated in the election for vice-president.
It was only then that they checked and realised that an overwhelming majority of those who had turned up to vote were new members.
The old guard should reflect on whether they have been receptive to fresh ideas and open to thoughts of rejuvenating the organisation - and whether they were even (pardon the pun) aware of what was going on around them.
One cannot help but suspect they may have operated like an elitist 'old girls' club.
On the other side is a group that appears like a bunch of bullies in its bid for power.
Did they think they could grab power without having to deal with public scrutiny?
They certainly have some explaining to do, after having made such a move at a well-known, well-established organisation.
But they have said little. They haven't really opened up to queries and their two statements have not exactly cleared the air.
What they stand for
Surely, if they choose to take over such a high-profile organisation in such a dramatic fashion, they must be prepared to talk about who they are, what they stand for and how they plan to implement change.
As educated women, they should know that in any election regardless of scale, the candidates should make their views and commitment known.
In Aware's latest statement, its new president, Ms Josie Lau, asked: 'Why have some people cast aspersions on our good intentions?... Does the old guard harbour an alternative agenda? If so, they should disclose their motives and objectives fully and honestly.'
How ironic.
She and her team have not answered those questions themselves. The public have been kept in the dark about these 'good intentions'.
It would be naive to expect people to grant them full confidence without being fully informed.
I'm not a member of Aware and after this, I doubt I'll ever be one.
Tan Mae Lynn is those people who "this is fucked up lah", "that is screwed up lah" but what is she doing to change the situation? Write a fuckup article and pretend to be above all these.
These Aware women have been around for 24 years! The Christians at least dare to take over another organisation to further their cause. Juvenile journalists like Tan Mae Lynn writes rubbish and do fuck all.
These Aware women have been around for 24 years! The Christians at least dare to take over another organisation to further their cause. Juvenile journalists like Tan Mae Lynn writes rubbish and do fuck all.
A critic need not necessarily take action...that is not the role of a critic
Look at my face. Does that answer your question?
Whose face do u prefer (of u really have to choose)? Josie or......
At least Josie wears skirts and appears to have quite nice legs for 48...pity about the face though:p
8) SpeedWeed on TOC April 20th, 2009 12.16 am Based on the Strait TImes article, that means, the following are all attending Anglican Church of Our Saviour.
1. Josie Lau (President) and husband Alan Chin
2. Charlotte Wong (Vice-president)
3. Irene Yee (Committee member)
4. Jenica Chua (Honorary secretary)
5. Maureen Ong (Honorary treasurer)
6. Sally Ang (Assistant honorary secretary)
That is 6 posts out of the 11 posts (1 less from original line-up of 12, as committee member Josie Lau is now the President), where all the 5 decision posts - President, Vice-president, Honorary secretary, Honorary treasurer and Assistant honorary secretary are taken by the same clique.
http://blog.alicecheong.com/?p=411
I wonder if the 80 odd new members who suddenly turned up at the AGM to vote them in, were from the same church.
24) SpeedWeed on TOCApril 20th, 2009 9.42 am http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/aware-new-president-first-interview/
21) Sarek_home.
in the second interview 3minute 40 sec to 3 min 50 second.
Apparently Josie Lau and Maureen Ong claims they did not know each other before working
but Josie Lau cut short her remark and the hosts let it past without digging further.
6 members from the same church, not a planned coup?
I say: “Holy Shit”
1. Josie Lau (President) and husband Alan Chin
2. Charlotte Wong (Vice-president)
3. Irene Yee (Committee member)
4. Jenica Chua (Honorary secretary)
5. Maureen Ong (Honorary treasurer)
6. Sally Ang (Assistant honorary secretary)
That is 6 posts out of the 11 posts (1 less from original line-up of 12, as committee member Josie Lau is now the President), where all the 5 decision posts - President, Vice-president, Honorary secretary, Honorary treasurer and Assistant honorary secretary are taken by the same clique.
http://blog.alicecheong.com/?p=411
I wonder if the 80 odd new members who suddenly turned up at the AGM to vote them in, were from the same church.
24) SpeedWeed on TOCApril 20th, 2009 9.42 am http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/04/aware-new-president-first-interview/
21) Sarek_home.
in the second interview 3minute 40 sec to 3 min 50 second.
Apparently Josie Lau and Maureen Ong claims they did not know each other before working
but Josie Lau cut short her remark and the hosts let it past without digging further.
6 members from the same church, not a planned coup?
I say: “Holy Shit”
Great post! I think the 'corporation' approach can also be used as the alibi for cutting certain services that don't meet with their pro-family agenda--for eg, sex education provided to schools that go beyond preaching abstinence to talking about safe sex and contraceptives and which recognize different sexualities.
Maybe AWARE's role in writing the shadow report for the UN CEDAW (Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women) is also under threat, given their eagerness in sacking Braema Mathi as chair of the committee. Braema had been praised by UN for an earlier report for detailed work and had received specialised training for the job.
Yes, we might see a sudden large influx of Christian women members at the EOGM. Would that constitute evidence that the evangelical Church is involved in supporting the new exco?
majority of them gather at COOS, church of our saviour which is ANGLICAN. that church is also famed for a ozzie gay pastor who has a very chio daughter.
josie's prejudiced husb dr chin ostracises gay which is against what coos' effort of counselling them. as a dr, he seems to be biased without reasons.
AWARE is for women's rights. it would be priceless if one day pussy bitch josie turns her self-righteous principle against her own husband.
by the way, gay can also means LESBIAN which AWARE could be full of them.
Oi, can tell about the chio daughter of gay ozzie pastor ? got picture anot ? Btw, why the hell the gays & lezzies got to use AWARE to champion their cause ? Why can't they form their own fucking organization ? 
? Btw, why the hell the gays & lezzies got to use AWARE to champion their cause ? Why can't they form their own fucking organization ? 
What is this AWARE? It is a useless organization! I hope something happens to this Josie life that will wipe her out (like her son got cancer) and she will forget about this silly catfight that she is making.
Then I can see less of her fuckface on the media.
Then I can see less of her fuckface on the media.
majority of them gather at COOS, church of our saviour which is ANGLICAN. that church is also famed for a ozzie gay pastor who has a very chio daughter.
josie's prejudiced husb dr chin ostracises gay which is against what coos' effort of counselling them. as a dr, he seems to be biased without reasons.
AWARE is for women's rights. it would be priceless if one day pussy bitch josie turns her self-righteous principle against her own husband.
by the way, gay can also means LESBIAN which AWARE could be full of them.
Pondan hiao cheebye chiobu leetahbar is 101% gay or lesbian because what the fucker has between his legs is still under debate!
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