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Chitchat Johor Property Market Collapsed Thanks To Covid! Property Investors Can't Offload Can't Rent Out! Fucking Losers!

LordElrond

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I see light at the end of the tunnel for Malaysia once Jib Gor gets back to the throne within 3 years time. Admit this, the rakyat had never benefitted more with other past Malaysian PMs than Jib Gor, who had brought in tourism dollars, economic vibrancy and much foreign direct investments, especially from China and the Middle East during his reign.
Not true. The prosperity was already there when AhJib took over. It was Dr Mad who transformed Mudland from rubber tapping kampongs to a vibrant country. The prosperity continued through Badawi’s era cos he did nothing. Doing nothing is actually a good thing, at least you are not undoing a good status quo. Ah Jib is quite a statesman who was able to project a progressive Mudland and promote foreigners friendly policies. Unfortunately he is too cunning for his own good…. unlike his predecessors who merely enjoyed the already overwhelming benefits in their position… he realised how much more he could get by digging into the national coffers.
 

whoami

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Not true. The prosperity was already there when AhJib took over. It was Dr Mad who transformed Mudland from rubber tapping kampongs to a vibrant country. The prosperity continued through Badawi’s era cos he did nothing. Doing nothing is actually a good thing, at least you are not undoing a good status quo. Ah Jib is quite a statesman who was able to project a progressive Mudland and promote foreigners friendly policies. Unfortunately he is too cunning for his own good…. unlike his predecessors who merely enjoyed the already overwhelming benefits in their position… he realised how much more he could get by digging into the national coffers.

No citizens with right state of mind would want a thief like Najib to be PM of the country. Only corrupt officials and businessman would like Najib cos of selfish and ill gotten gains at the expense of their own soverign country/motheland.
 

LordElrond

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No citizens with right state of mind would want a thief like Najib to be PM of the country. Only corrupt officials and businessman would like Najib cos of selfish and ill gotten gains at the expense of their own soverign country/motheland.
And foreign Governments like Singapore :biggrin:
 

JohnTan

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Not true. The prosperity was already there when AhJib took over. It was Dr Mad who transformed Mudland from rubber tapping kampongs to a vibrant country. The prosperity continued through Badawi’s era cos he did nothing. Doing nothing is actually a good thing, at least you are not undoing a good status quo. Ah Jib is quite a statesman who was able to project a progressive Mudland and promote foreigners friendly policies. Unfortunately he is too cunning for his own good…. unlike his predecessors who merely enjoyed the already overwhelming benefits in their position… he realised how much more he could get by digging into the national coffers.

The prosperity of jiuhu was there since the 1950s and 60s. The British colonial government in Malaya and Singapore were more competent here than they were in India, or compared to French, Dutch or Spanish colonial rule.

The early m&d prime ministers left most of the British colonial government system intact when they took over in 1965. As long as there wasn't meddling in the government by the islamist agenda, the country prospered.

The NEP had noble intentions to lift the incomes of the poorer m&ds. But it eventually morphed into a system where all m&ds, regardless of income level, received special rights and financial help. Even a millionaire m&d was entitled to financial assistance and priority for university ahead of lower income chinks and keling solely on account of race and religion. Christian and animists m&d bumis were generally not treated as bumi and received few of the bumi financial and political privileges promised to all bumiputera. Just look at the development of Sabah and Sarawak, where most of the Christian bumi resides.

The decline of jiuhu coincides with the rise of islamist religiousity in jiuhu.
 

winners

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Not true. The prosperity was already there when AhJib took over. It was Dr Mad who transformed Mudland from rubber tapping kampongs to a vibrant country. The prosperity continued through Badawi’s era cos he did nothing. Doing nothing is actually a good thing, at least you are not undoing a good status quo. Ah Jib is quite a statesman who was able to project a progressive Mudland and promote foreigners friendly policies. Unfortunately he is too cunning for his own good…. unlike his predecessors who merely enjoyed the already overwhelming benefits in their position… he realised how much more he could get by digging into the national coffers.
Najib was blindsighted by that witch wife of his as well as that evil Penangite Jho Lo. Otherwise, he's not a bad ruler. Greed eventually got over him from the bad influence from Jho Lo. Blame it on that Malaysian Chinese.

Mamak Kutty was too arrogant throughout his rule. He wanted to have the tallest building in Asia (the Twin Towers) at that time and the largest airport (KLIA) in Asia. All these require lots of money, but do they benefitted the country in the end? No. The Twin Towers were dwarfed within a year or two by China, the KLIA was very much under-utilized and a waste of money. The worst was still holding on to a firm like PROTON rather than to sell it off. PROTON has been unable to innovate and improve on its R&D because it's not an International brand and lack the monetary resources. Instead it drained the government's coffers for years and even more years to come had it not been sold to GEELY by Jib Gor. Mamak Kutty is a man of selfishness and greed. He's not called Mr 10% for nothing during his reign.
 
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winners

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The NEP had noble intentions to lift the incomes of the poorer m&ds. But it eventually morphed into a system where all m&ds, regardless of income level, received special rights and financial help. Even a millionaire m&d was entitled to financial assistance and priority for university ahead of lower income chinks and keling solely on account of race and religion.
And who started the NEP and allowed it to be morphed into a money well for all the Bumis? Mamak Kutty of course.
 

enjoylife77

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With plentiful of unsold units from developers and individual owner wanting to sell when borders open again, it will take years for market to absorb all the over-hang. Potential buyers should take your time.
If singkies want to buy mudland property,,always think of it as buying a lifestyle,,not as investment,,dont even consider making a buck or rent etc etc,,,but if buy and enjoy it to live and if goes up shit creek,,just walk away,,,,if not one is in a world of hurt,,,

 

syed putra

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I see light at the end of the tunnel for Malaysia once Jib Gor gets back to the throne within 3 years time. Admit this, the rakyat had never benefitted more with other past Malaysian PMs than Jib Gor, who had brought in tourism dollars, economic vibrancy and much foreign direct investments, especially from China and the Middle East during his reign.
Jib kor destroyed jiu hu tourism industries from hotels to theme parks to development targetting foreigners.
Tourism boomed under badawi . It just shows that gomen policies are reasons why some countries flourish and others falter.
Hotels were put up for sale and theme parks closed under jib kor so thst his buddies can make money processing visas.
 

syed putra

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Of course. Ur loss is my gain. Tats why sinkies very very very afraid of Tun. Its Tun who built Msia into wat it is today.
Nonsense.
During same time, Thailand became a major car export hub.and theirvgomen didn't spend a cent on building cars.
Electrical and electronic formed 50% of jiu hu exports currently snd received probably zero gomen funding.
Gomen job is not to venture into business like what Dr m did. It's job is to encourage business and collect taxes from it. There were many companies that wanted to manufacture cars in malaysia but were denied due to proton. Toyota,VW, GM, Honda etc eventuslly most ended up 8n Thailand, and now Indonesia.
Whenever gomen spend money to venture into a specific industry, they eventually end up killing it.
 

winners

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Jib kor destroyed jiu hu tourism industries from hotels to theme parks to development targetting foreigners.
Tourism boomed under badawi . It just shows that gomen policies are reasons why some countries flourish and others falter.
Hotels were put up for sale and theme parks closed under jib kor so thst his buddies can make money processing visas.
Can you substantiate with some examples/incidences?
 

whoami

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With plentiful of unsold units from developers and individual owner wanting to sell when borders open again, it will take years for market to absorb all the over-hang. Potential buyers should take your time.

If have holding power, just hold on to it. Worst scenario break even also puas hati.
 

whoami

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Nonsense.
During same time, Thailand became a major car export hub.and theirvgomen didn't spend a cent on building cars.
Electrical and electronic formed 50% of jiu hu exports currently snd received probably zero gomen funding.
Gomen job is not to venture into business like what Dr m did. It's job is to encourage business and collect taxes from it. There were many companies that wanted to manufacture cars in malaysia but were denied due to proton. Toyota,VW, GM, Honda etc eventuslly most ended up 8n Thailand, and now Indonesia.
Whenever gomen spend money to venture into a specific industry, they eventually end up killing it.

Nonsense. U mean garment of those countries dont have their individual GLCs? Look at Sinkieland blue chip company. Garment no funding? One very good example. SIA. The rest is history.
 

syed putra

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Can you substantiate with some examples/incidences?
Just look at the numbers of hotels for sale in KL. These were built when badawi was in power and tourism was booming.
All theme park in JB were shut before covid as china and india tourist by flights to sinkie were barred from entry due to change of visa policy.
And the condos in JB targeting foreigners( mostly from china) are stuck as they planned to sell at RM600k. But nsjib barred foreigners from buying below RM1 mil.
 

syed putra

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Nonsense. U mean garment of those countries dont have their individual GLCs? Look at Sinkieland blue chip company. Garment no funding? One very good example. SIA. The rest is history.
These sinkie GLC existed because of preferential treatment locally.. overseas, i think their returns are not so good.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Just look at the numbers of hotels for sale in KL. These were built when badawi was in power and tourism was booming.
All theme park in JB were shut before covid as china and india tourist by flights to sinkie were barred from entry due to change of visa policy.
And the condos in JB targeting foreigners( mostly from china) are stuck as they planned to sell at RM600k. But nsjib barred foreigners from buying below RM1 mil.
So najib is bad to foreigners but good to m&ds?
 

whoami

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These sinkie GLC existed because of preferential treatment locally.. overseas, i think their returns are not so good.

Cronies. And u said Msia have special privileges for Bumi. Only benefits the top. How about sinkieland? No diff fm Msia, Thailand or any other countries. So dont just single out our neighbours. Look at ur own backyard first.
 

winners

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Just look at the numbers of hotels for sale in KL. These were built when badawi was in power and tourism was booming.
All theme park in JB were shut before covid as china and india tourist by flights to sinkie were barred from entry due to change of visa policy.
And the condos in JB targeting foreigners( mostly from china) are stuck as they planned to sell at RM600k. But nsjib barred foreigners from buying below RM1 mil.
On the contrary, Najib came into power in 2009 and he implemented the MACS (Malaysia Automated Clearance System) for ease of travel (especially to Sinkies) from 2010. It was that Mamak Kutty who immediately ended MACS after he became the PM for the second time in 2018.

It was even Mamak Kutty who bars new Chinese from Mainland China to buy those condos in Forest City and Country Gardens (or even on the whole of Malaysia) and even put new terms and conditions (restrictions) to their MM2H applications. Blame all of these on that evil Mamak Kutty.
 

syed putra

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On the contrary, Najib came into power in 2009 and he implemented the MACS (Malaysia Automated Clearance System) for ease of travel (especially to Sinkies) from 2010. It was that Mamak Kutty who immediately ended MACS after he became the PM for the second time in 2018.
I think that was 8 implemented before najib. He came in and got the accolade after badawi resigned.
Who increased the causeway toll? Only to revert back later?Wasn't it najib?
Najib caused JB economy to collapse. And KL tourism to dwindle.
 
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