Is the grass really greener on the other side ?

[Avantas]

During our usual weekend get-together at my mother-in-law’s place at Yong Peng (Malaysia), there will invariably be heated discussions on politics by relatives from both sides of the causeway.

The usual Singaporean complaint about rising costs, ERPs and influx of foreigners seems more of a minor irritant than an important concern to the Malaysians.

“At least your government functions” quipped Chin, my brother-in-law. “Over here, the politicians just talk, NATO only. They have been saying they will renovate the Chinese schools since the 1980s during every election, but once it is over, they disappear as well !”

Another brother-in-law is trying to get his two kids enrol in a primary school in Singapore. “Never mind what school, as long it is in Singapore, it will surely be better here !”, he acclaimed.

I almost want to dissuade him from doing so as I am not keen for my kids to be educated in the Singapore school system.

I am a true blue Singaporean, born here, receive my education from primary to university level here, serve national service, work, married and settled down here in the land of my birth.

I am in my mid 30s, have 2 wonderful kids (a third one coming in December), earn a comfortable working as a system engineer in an IT consultancy film and lives in a private apartment still being paid for by my CPF - a typical middle class Singaporean.

Yet, I still do not feel satisfied or secure about my present life. Will I be able to maintain the same standard of living and qualify of life in the future ?

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http://wayangparty.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/

 

[captainxerox]

always, even when you get to the other side.

 

[congo9]

During our usual weekend get-together at my mother-in-law’s place at Yong Peng (Malaysia), there will invariably be heated discussions on politics by relatives from both sides of the causeway.

The usual Singaporean complaint about rising costs, ERPs and influx of foreigners seems more of a minor irritant than an important concern to the Malaysians.

“At least your government functions” quipped Chin, my brother-in-law. “Over here, the politicians just talk, NATO only. They have been saying they will renovate the Chinese schools since the 1980s during every election, but once it is over, they disappear as well !”

Another brother-in-law is trying to get his two kids enrol in a primary school in Singapore. “Never mind what school, as long it is in Singapore, it will surely be better here !”, he acclaimed.

I almost want to dissuade him from doing so as I am not keen for my kids to be educated in the Singapore school system.

I am a true blue Singaporean, born here, receive my education from primary to university level here, serve national service, work, married and settled down here in the land of my birth.

I am in my mid 30s, have 2 wonderful kids (a third one coming in December), earn a comfortable working as a system engineer in an IT consultancy film and lives in a private apartment still being paid for by my CPF - a typical middle class Singaporean.

Yet, I still do not feel satisfied or secure about my present life. Will I be able to maintain the same standard of living and qualify of life in the future ?

Read rest of article here:

http://wayangparty.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/is-the-grass-really-greener-on-the-other-side/

I met up with some indonesian counterpart also.They also said the same thing. At least , you get everything here, never mind the price. Our politician is all corrupted ! At least you do not have corruption in Singapore. Anyway , i told them. Indonesian came here because we have a stable banking system here so that they can park the money here, because we do not have any repratation treaty with indonesia. I told them also once you have all the money , settling anywhere is just the same. But just because singapore is right at their doort step.

But once they settle down here , they will find that though singapore has everything, but it lacks somethings a country has ......... It the SPIRIT ! By singapore govment managing every aspect of Singapore life , you pratically got trapped here.

Anyway , they are from 3rd World ....... they see things differently. We are arguing on differnt grounds, like comparing apple to orange. They want stability of things over there. We want more than stable enviornment singapore can give. That is more freedom of speech and thought !

but will Sinapore govement let go of it ? Of course not. They will terms it stability or nation building !

 

[char_jig_kar]

dislike his message. wanna humtum the PAP govt, just do it. why go sing praise of PAP and then humtum PAP?? gnn.

 

[Avantas]

The question we need to ask is:

Is the PAP maintaining their stranglehold over the country for the sake of their survival or our country's future ?

The answer is obvious. To MM Lee and the other goons, PAP comes before Singaporeans.

I met up with some indonesian counterpart also.They also said the same thing. At least , you get everything here, never mind the price. Our politician is all corrupted ! At least you do not have corruption in Singapore. Anyway , i told them. Indonesian came here because we have a stable banking system here so that they can park the money here, because we do not have any repratation treaty with indonesia. I told them also once you have all the money , settling anywhere is just the same. But just because singapore is right at their doort step.

But once they settle down here , they will find that though singapore has everything, but it lacks somethings a country has ......... It the SPIRIT ! By singapore govment managing every aspect of Singapore life , you pratically got trapped here.

Anyway , they are from 3rd World ....... they see things differently. We are arguing on differnt grounds, like comparing apple to orange. They want stability of things over there. We want more than stable enviornment singapore can give. That is more freedom of speech and thought !

but will Sinapore govement let go of it ? Of course not. They will terms it stability or nation building !

 

[High till Dry]

the grasses will be greener when u waters it

 

[Avantas]

Haha, why not water it here then ?

the grasses will be greener when u waters it

 

[pia]

Haha, why not water it here then ?

Over here, we all jiat chow (eat grass) already. So naturally, the grass IS ALWAYS greener on the other side

 

[SIFU]

if you believe the nonsense one shit over here, even the fart smells nicer in thai..

 

[pia]

if you believe the nonsense one shit over here, even the fart smells nicer in thai..

Err.. sifu.. shit does help the grass to grow greener

 

[char_jig_kar]

Haha, why not water it here then ?

Because PAP is controlling the water hose?

 

[BlueCat]

to some people here,it is that way.
for me,it make not much of a different.
everywhere you go also almost the same,still have to work for our living.
maybe the other side has a few things that is better but you gain some and you will also lose some.

 

[char_jig_kar]

to some people here,it is that way.
for me,it make not much of a different.
everywhere you go also almost the same,still have to work for our living.
maybe the other side has a few things that is better but you gain some and you will also lose some.

everywhere we go also almost the same? really?

which country the resident of the apartment pay 50 over dollars every month for conservancy fee and the apartment flat is still very dirty with piss in the lift, litters all over lift lobby and stairway? which country?

 

[jw5]

always, even when you get to the other side.

So you think that it is always the problem of envy, i.e. the grass is greener on the other side whichever side we are on?
I would have to agree, somehow, I think that we need to make the grass as green as we can wherever we are.

 

[char_jig_kar]

So you think that it is always the problem of envy, i.e. the grass is greener on the other side whichever side we are on?
I would have to agree, somehow, I think that we need to make the grass as green as we can wherever we are.

how to make the grass green here if the PAP is in control of the whole island, water hose, fertilizer, etc??

 

[Avantas]

Are you saying the grass will be greener if SDP is the government and Dr Chee the PM instead ?

how to make the grass green here if the PAP is in control of the whole island, water hose, fertilizer, etc??

 

[char_jig_kar]

Are you saying the grass will be greener if SDP is the government and Dr Chee the PM instead ?

No. I am saying under authoritarian govt system, the environment sucks.

 

[tonychat]

No. I am saying under authoritarian govt system, the environment sucks.

Well said, a govt system that do not respect human rights are sucks, no matter where it is.

 

[aakumu]

hi bro,
you cant' have your cake and eat it too.

My humble two cents.

 

[NobleEagle]

GRASS OF COURSE GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE LA

Foreigners see us shiok because of our high currency exchange and good standard of living, clean environment, good education system blah blah BUT they never do know unless they are expats tats living here for long time and if u ask any of the expats here...how many willing to stay here in Singapore for life??

Good standard of living comes from High cost of living, who is paying for all these? PAP? You pay for budget hotel u get budget living, u pay 6 stars hotel u get 6 star treatment la...so far are we entitled to any special treatment or cheaper rates as a Singaporean on our day to day living? Even when u own a Sinagporean car n buy a Malaysian car, u pay much more than a Malaysian coming thru Singapore custom...
Clean environment, who pays for it? now u shit also need to pay 10 cent la govt subsidize wat??

GST, ERP, COE & Roadtax, Parking, Housing (lack of housing still see many condos n casinos coming up )...etc etc We Singaporean even have to FUCKING pay to visit our OWN casinos wat a joke?!!

Most important is when ur old and cannot work, u gonna be sufficient with these miserable monthly handouts from the CPFs living day by day or with the same amt of money set up a small business earning n living comfortably - Which is ur choice?

Other countries are backward, living conditions are poor, education systems suckz but most importantly its much lower costs of living, they are all contented and able to get on with their lives without much worries, when old just go to rural side build a house and plant/rear their food n fruits or jus simpley open a makeshift coffeshop/barbershop/cocktail cafe...why are there so many Others foreigners choosing Other countries to retire instead of Singapore