Intelligentsia captures SBF

[kingrant]

I suppose you are acting like the PAP now. Vote for me and you'll get upgrading etc. You spurn me, and I'll give you 5 years to repent.

Shame on you!

I chose the ones who I knew wouldn't mind giving. They have shown an egalitarian slant and have been seen to endorse a spirit of sharing. They don't care about points so I thought I might as well give their points to those who do.

 

[Leongsam]

I suppose you are acting like the PAP now. Vote for me and you'll get upgrading etc. You spurn me, and I'll give you 5 years to repent.
Shame on you!

On the contrary. There is no malice in my actions whatsoever. I'm simply running this forum with the philosophy that the majority of its members subscribe to... that money [and points] don't matter in the grand scheme of things and that a large gap between the haves and have nots is not a good thing.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Sam is not doing it right. I dont mind him giving away points to pro-PAP posters but he should not deduct anything from the others. That would serve to pull in more pro-PAP posts without causing really unnecessary effect all round. Sam is supposedly pro-work, pro-capitalism, and possibly another Ayn Rand freak, so he should incentivise whatever he wants to achieve.Cutting off the feet of others isnt going to make you run faster, but providing running shoes or spikes would.

Sam is not going to deduct anyone's points. He was just making a point (about a Robin Hood approach to welfare).

But alas, the humour fell through.

 

[freedalas]

Are you suggesting that new citizens be given more privileges than 3rd generation heartlanders?

That's what your political master the PAP is doing isn't it? As its running dog, u should follow accordingly, else they won't confer u the nat Day Award u are so hard up for.

 

[Leongsam]

Sam is not going to deduct anyone's points. He was just making a point (about a Robin Hood approach to welfare).
But alas, the humour fell through.

All humor beyond the slapstick crap from gurmit singh, moe alkaff and that drag queen kumar falls through in this forum.

 

[kingrant]

Are you not carrying your socialism vs free enterprise argument a bit too far by blackmailing socialist advocates ? Where is free speech? And all that "I may disagree with you but I will defend your right to disagree"?

I chose the ones who I knew wouldn't mind giving. They have shown an egalitarian slant and have been seen to endorse a spirit of sharing. They don't care about points so I thought I might as well give their points to those who do.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Avoid the wrath of Sam at all costs when he can't go cycling on his favorite bicycle, the one without a seat.

This is Leongsam's bicycle:

 

[Leongsam]

Are you not carrying your socialism vs free enterprise argument a bit too far by blackmailing socialist advocates ? Where is free speech? And all that "I may disagree with you but I will defend your right to disagree"?

I do defend their rights 100%. None of them have been silenced in any way. Nowhere and at no time did I say. "post more anti PAP messages and I'll deduct your points!".

I simply did a slight redistribution exercise in the name of welfare.

 

[Fook Seng]

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No wonder you could be on some many threads at the same time, clones included.

 

[erection2015]

thats a penny farthing and it has a saddle. I thot boss' machine has no saddle.

This is Leongsam's bicycle:

 

[kingrant]

So you did that to demo what welfare is? But isnt that acting like the govt in a socialist economy? A govt that you demonise?

I simply did a slight redistribution exercise in the name of welfare.

 

[Fook Seng]

That's what your political master the PAP is doing isn't it? As its running dog, u should follow accordingly, else they won't confer u the nat Day Award u are so hard up for.

That is also the reason I answered "No" to this.

 

[Fook Seng]

This is Leongsam's bicycle:

This penny farthing requires a very small backside to ride. There is practically nothing to cover your back.

 

[scroobal]

Guys

Please cool down. Looks like everyone was singing from a different hymn sheet when this Act of the play went down this path. Here are some points worth considering

1) To be fair to OverThe Counter, he has always been opposition chap that has been aligned with Chee and SDP. When it comes to SDP, there are no compromises with the PAP. When he wore his "pro PAP" mantle" he wasn't talking about the virtues about any PAP policies but went straight into crime rate - the favourite hobby horse of those making fun of PAP. He obviously played his part too well.

2) Like it or not the points seem to carry some kind of value and recognition. It does indicate to newbies and others the background of a forummer in the context of this forum. Unjustifiable increase means devaluing the points of others. Points deduction means a negative of some sort has been posted against that individual

3) Lets not forget the TFBH and others were more concerned with those abusing the points system to ban or abuse others. The biggest culprit in recent times was Cooleo who did not allow others to come out of moderation unless they acknowledged his supremacy in this forum. Sam eventually caught on. I remember during the GE / PE people like Cannonfairy and Zeddy was having a tough time. Kudos to TFBH for looking after the more vulnerable chaps.

4) If you care to notice, points can go rapidly up for absolute rubbish as in the case of Irene Yeoh and Sideswipe while someone like Windor despite his contribution - jokes, videos and quality discussion have little to show for it. Another is Fook Seng who has contributed in nearly every quality thread in recent times and again it does not reflect it. Lets not forget that with Windor, the profanities and abuse have fallen considerably. Then you have Bus64 who has weird but always informative content on PC Technology and politics and we have 2 chaps with little between their ears tag teaming and banning him.

5) As a community forum, I am well aware of each participant having to play a part in using the rep system. I would suggest that the rep points remain as such but it has no power to infract or ban. The giving of points will help newbies to come out moderation real quick. It will be a good social experiment. I am well aware that it is a chore on the moderators like Windsor, Singveld and Sam to screen the newbies in moderation but it might be worth the effort.

Welcome any other suggestions or counter arguments.

 

[Leongsam]

So you did that to demo what welfare is? But isnt that acting like the govt in a socialist economy? A govt that you demonise?

Everyone says that the poor should be helped and "welfare" should not be considered to be a dirty word so I was trying out the concept.

It seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

[Ramseth]

This is Leongsam's favorite bicycle, the one without a seat, just a long shaft up his...

 

[Windsor]

Don't worry too much about Sam's outburst.
My guess is that it's raining yesterday and today and he couldn't go cycling or jet skiiing.
He actually hates pappies, otherwise he would be helping them to issue food and grocery vouchers at the meet the peoples' sessions every week.

Sam is not going to deduct anyone's points. He was just making a point (about a Robin Hood approach to welfare).

But alas, the humour fell through.

Was that supposed to be humourous? I daresay, I have a lot of funny bones within me but that was definitely not a tongue-in-cheek nor sardonic statement he made, not by a long shot. Joetys did not think so and he is one of the mildest chaps here. He saw what I saw and his sense of fairplay was affronted.

1) To be fair to OverThe Counter, he has always been opposition chap that has been aligned with Chee and SDP. When it comes to SDP, there are no compromises with the PAP. When he wore his "pro PAP" mantle" he wasn't talking about the virtues about any PAP policies but went straight into crime rate - the favourite hobby horse of those making fun of PAP. He obviously played his part too well.

2) Like it or not the points seem to carry some kind of value and recognition. It does indicate to newbies and others the background of a forummer in the context of this forum. Unjustifiable increase means devaluing the points of others. Points deduction means a negative of some sort has been posted against that individual

3) Lets not forget the TFBH and others were more concerned with those abusing the points system to ban or abuse others. The biggest culprit in recent times was Cooleo who did not allow others to come out of moderation unless they acknowledged his supremacy in this forum. Sam eventually caught on. I remember during the GE / PE people like Cannonfairy and Zeddy was having a tough time. Kudos to TFBH for looking after the more vulnerable chaps.

4) If you care to notice, points can go rapidly up for absolute rubbish as in the case of Irene Yeoh and Sideswipe while someone like Windor despite his contribution - jokes, videos and quality discussion have little to show for it. Another is Fook Seng who has contributed in nearly every quality thread in recent times and again it does not reflect it. Lets not forget that with Windor, the profanities and abuse have fallen considerably. Then you have Bus64 who has weird but always informative content on PC Technology and politics and we have 2 chaps with little between their ears tag teaming and banning him.

5) As a community forum, I am well aware of each participant having to play a part in using the rep system. I would suggest that the rep points remain as such but it has no power to infract or ban. The giving of points will help newbies to come out moderation real quick. It will be a good social experiment. I am well aware that it is a chore on the moderators like Windsor, Singveld and Sam to screen the newbies in moderation but it might be worth the effort.

I thank those who said good words about me and appreciate the fact that a Mod is one of the most disliked person in SBF especially me. All along I said I am not interested in points and rightly so as it is pretty useless in SBF. After getting a good enough buffer like 100 points, these points can withstand a certain amount of abuse before one gets relegated to being moderated. That to me is good enough to have.

In a proper forum where points are given or taken away, as long as one does not create waves or be obnoxious, their points will increase at a pace depending on their contributions. SBF is unlike other forums and therefore the point system is pretty skewed, plus the forum host sees fit to tinker around with them.

TT has contributed so much within a space of a week or so but what did she have? Despite being an older member than I she has so few. The other is brocoli who also has too little despite his efforts. Then this forum host said he will remove 10 points from TT just because he thinks it is ok. Brocoli despite being abrasive is safe as long as he stays in the Political Section, but I daresay if he is in this Section, he will be cut to ribbons.

Handing 100 points to someone who has made only 300 posts so far is way off course. A reward for posting comments contrary to the majority? Is that a good reason when TT and brocoli cannot even get 10 points in a month? What if everyone decided this is unfair and ignore his stooge as after all everyone knows he has been bought and therefore spewing pro-PAP comments because he was paid to do so?

I toild the forum host to take away those 20 points as I really don't need them but I hope he will not do so for those he named. Also, take away my Mod Status as I don't think it is worth the trouble. I would rather be a pro-PAP and anti-welfare person or just post non-committal comments to avoid controversy.

It is not the a member's POV of welfare-ism that is of importance, but the welfare-ism of SBF that is more important and I think he screwed it up.

 

[Leongsam]

Was that supposed to be humourous? I daresay, I have a lot of funny bones within me but that was definitely not a tongue-in-cheek nor sardonic statement he made, not by a long shot. Joetys did not think so and he is one of the mildest chaps here. He saw what I saw and his sense of fairplay was affronted.

This forum really imitates life and I have to say that you may not find it funny but I'm finding the whole scenario absolutely hilarious.:p

I had a few days to spare to muck around here and I've found that the power or reputation points goes way beyond what I ever imagined and they aren't even redeemable.

I wonder what would happen if it was real money!

I now understand why Sinkies get so worked up over the behaviour of the pappy dogs. It doesn't take much to seriously upset them.

The term to describe Joetys' departure is "collateral damage".... innocent parties who get caught in the crossfire. It happens in real life and it happens here to.

Weather is better tomorrow so I'll be out on my jet ski.

May I take this opportunity to wish one and all a HAPPY, PROSPEROUS AND FRUITFUL 2012.

 

[po2wq]

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[erection2015]

If it were, i would be first in line and then it would really be a HAPPY , PROSPEROUS AND FRUITFUL 2012.

I wonder what would happen if it was real money!

I now understand why Sinkies get so worked up over the behaviour of the pappy dogs. It doesn't take much to seriously upset them.

The term to describe Joetys' departure is "collateral damage".... innocent parties who get caught in the crossfire. It happens in real life and it happens here to.

Weather is better tomorrow so I'll be out on my jet ski.

May I take this opportunity to wish one and all a HAPPY, PROSPEROUS AND FRUITFUL 2012.