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Tesla's made-in-China cars lead market in quality while US-made Tesla cars score lowest - Electrek
Fred Lambert

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Tesla’s made-in-China cars are leading the market when it comes to quality, according to a new survey.

All while Tesla’s US-made vehicles are scoring the lowest for quality.

As we reported earlier this year, Tesla ranked lowest on J.D. Power 2020 quality study, with 250 problems per 100 cars.

The quality survey was based on roughly 1,250 Tesla owners and the vast majority of respondents own a Model 3.

In a surprising turn of events, a similar survey produced in China shows that Tesla is leading the market on quality with its Model 3 vehicles produced at Gigafactory Shanghai.

According to a new survey compiled by 12365Auto, the average passenger car in China gets 37.2 “complaints” regarding quality per 10,000 cars over the last quarter.
Over the same period, Made-in-China Model 3 only received 0.7 complaints – topping the chart.

The report stated (translated from Chinese):
“Judging from the ranking of hot-selling sedan complaints in the second quarter of 2020, American brands ushered in a bright moment. A total of 2 models were selected on the list, and both of them ranked in the top ten. Among them, the domestic Tesla Model 3 reached the top for the first time with its outstanding complaint sales ratio. This is also the first time that an American brand model has won the championship in recent years. Chevrolet Cruze, another model on the list, performed equally eye-catching this quarter. Its complaint sales ratio was significantly lower than that in the first quarter, and the complaint sales ratio increased significantly, which is worthy of praise.”
A side-by-side look at the charts from the J.D. Power survey and Chinese survey tell two completely different stories:

Tesla is dead last on one by a significant margin and first on the other – again by a significant margin.

Electrek’s Take

That’s quite a shocking difference.

Elon has been boasting about the quality of the work from the Gigafactory Shanghai team so it looks like there indeed might be a significant difference in quality, but that big of a difference?

Maybe there are other factors at play that are not being taken into account.

For example, while the Chinese survey is only for the last quarter, it may take into account all cars regardless of the date of production and mileage.

Tesla only started delivering made-in-China Model 3 vehicles about 8 months ago.

But either way, the data seems to indicate that Tesla’s manufacturing capacity in China results in much higher quality than in the US.

Of course, the automaker was able to take advantage of everything it learned from its mistakes in Fremont.

Hopefully, it will go full circle and now we are going to see improvements in US-made cars.

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Wow, you're really quick on the draw!

Tesla's problems in the US didn't manifest for years. Consumer Reports et al. gave them a perfect score when they first came out. Only after a few years when the problems came home to roost did they start downgrading Tesla until they could no longer recommend it. But that's exactly what happened. 1st car to score a perfect score to being dropped from CR's recommendation because of garbage quality a few years down the road. Now culminating in a dead last finish on JD Power's list.

It's a bit early to tell because the cars have been barely out in months let alone years.

Add to that a huge habit of them placing positive news to distract from bad news, I'm not convinced. In fact, I think this is a distraction because that JD Power list is well known to everybody in the car market.

And electrek is hugely biased...

But you're right in a sense. angmohs do suck for promoting this peddler of betaware sold as finished product shamelessly.
 
Wow, you're really quick on the draw!

Tesla's problems in the US didn't manifest for years. Consumer Reports et al. gave them a perfect score when they first came out. Only after a few years when the problems came home to roost did they start downgrading Tesla until they could no longer recommend it. But that's exactly what happened. 1st car to score a perfect score to being dropped from CR's recommendation because of garbage quality a few years down the road. Now culminating in a dead last finish on JD Power's list.

It's a bit early to tell because the cars have been barely out in months let alone years.

Add to that a huge habit of them placing positive news to distract from bad news, I'm not convinced.

And electrek is hugely biased.

Time will tell. If the same or similar model is being in two different locations it is very easy to compare the quality levels of the two assembly lines.
 
Time will tell. If the same or similar model is being in two different locations it is very easy to compare the quality levels of the two assembly lines.
yes I agree. I'm smelling a red herring though...
 
Hoardes of new fully electric cars in the market. Why focus on tesla alone?
 
As time passes by, not only cars, but products such as TV, phones, etc quality are depreciating due to cost cutting measures.
 
As time passes by, not only cars, but products such as TV, phones, etc quality are depreciating due to cost cutting measures.
If a electrical electronic or consumer product is long lasting, the manufacturer will go bust faster. The more durable the item is made, the less often the upgrade, the less money businesses make.
 
Chinks are better copycats, there'll be 50 versions of similar and better types soon. Ask LKY he knows....
 
As time passes by, not only cars, but products such as TV, phones, etc quality are depreciating due to cost cutting measures.
If a electrical electronic or consumer product is long lasting, the manufacturer will go bust faster. The more durable the item is made, the less often the upgrade, the less money businesses make.
The term for it is planned obsolescence. haaaa...

Was really big for General Motors back in the 50s. Then the Germans discovered it in the 80s and German cars are no longer the same.
 
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