I became Vegetarian to be healthier... But it's changed my whole world!

[kopiuncle]

It does not really matter what you eat. For me, it is what you are that counts: your words, your thoughts and your actions. Are they wholesome?

It does not really matter what you believe. But are your honest and wholesome in your words, your thoughts and your actions?

I was very upset when a friend of mine ordered an expensive set of dinner for our oveerseas guests and one of my " anti-shark's fins " friends, took the shark's fin soup off the menu and replaced with some tofu soup!!! My friends were flaggergasted! My overseas guests were utterly disappointed as we promised them good shark's fins soup.

You should NOT impose your beliefts on others. If you don't want to eat the shark's fins for whatever reason, you can set aside the dish or give it to somebody. But to deprive others of the joy of relishing the dish is not correct.And it reflects badly on the sharks lover.

Well, this is only my perspective. I am sure many will not agree with me. But it's okay for all of us to agree to disagree on many things. Thank you and have a wonderful weekend.

I think Tonychat's confession on vegetarianism is quite admirable. It helps to keep the precepts. Good post.

 

[sadshishamo]

Bro , maybe its the air pressure ( up there ) to make u the way u are now

No bro, this was in 1960 when I was a student

 

[drifter]

It does not really matter what you eat. For me, it is what you are that counts: your words, your thoughts and your actions. Are they wholesome?

It does not really matter what you believe. But are your honest and wholesome in your words, your thoughts and your actions?

I was very upset when a friend of mine ordered an expensive set of dinner for our oveerseas guests and one of my " anti-shark's fins " friends, took the shark's fin soup off the menu and replaced with some tofu soup!!! My friends were flaggergasted! My overseas guests were utterly disappointed as we promised them good shark's fins soup.

You should NOT impose your beliefts on others. If you don't want to eat the shark's fins for whatever reason, you can set aside the dish or give it to somebody. But to deprive others of the joy of relishing the dish is not correct.And it reflects badly on the sharks lover.


Well, this is only my perspective. I am sure many will not agree with me. But it's okay for all of us to agree to disagree on many things. Thank you and have a wonderful weekend.

I think Tonychat's confession on vegetarianism is quite admirable. It helps to keep the precepts. Good post.

Uncle , of course it's tony choice for being a vegetarian its Just that i can't understand why human must go against nature just to make himself feel good .

 

[kopiuncle]

Uncle , of course it's tony choice for being a vegetarian its Just that i can't understand why human must go against nature just to make himself feel good .

I agree Sifu, I think being a vegetarian is not just a life-style modification, but it is also a form of discipline - a cultivation to stay away from meat and it also gives a certain insight into all living things at all levels. It is not necessary to be a vegetarian to gain insight, but certainly it is one of the doors to wisdom and realisation.

One of the 8 mortals spent a great part of his life in a brothel to kill his desires for women and for sex....and when he had realised the futility of it all, he left and became enlightened.

 

[drifter]

I agree Sifu, I think being a vegetarian is not just a life-style modification, but it is also a form of discipline - a cultivation to stay away from meat and it also gives a certain insight into all living things at all levels. It is not necessary to be a vegetarian to gain insight, but certainly it is one of the doors to wisdom and realisation.

One of the 8 mortals spent a great part of his life in a brothel to kill his desires for women and for sex....and when he had realised the futility of it all, he left and came enlightened.

Yes I also think its a form of self-discipline .. but why must one go through so much trouble just to eat greens ? it's really insane !!! Vegans and Vegetarians often choose their diets based upon "ethical concerns" or for what they will call "moral reasons", since they decide not to eat meat because it's cruel to animals.

They often feel that they are morally and ethically superior to the rest of us and are eager to pass judgement and seek to educate those of us who do not follow this substandard, unhealthy dietary fad. Perhaps worst of all, some seek to pass influence over children, and to use their positions of trust with the children of others to feed such children vegan and vegetarian dietary propaganda.

 

[drifter]

The best part is .. They wanted their vegetarian food to look and taste like meat !!!!

 

[drifter]

"Animals have two functions in today's society: to be delicious and to fit well."
:Greg Proops

 

[drifter]

Many people are tired of being told what they can and cannot eat ( religion have already control some ppl of their life )and now We don't want to be lectured by righteous food Nazis, who feel that their ethical standards are higher than ours, therefore, they can dictate morality and diet to us.Fortunately, there is some backlash to this vegetarian moral crusade. Be sure to never back down in the face of angry vegans ..... they want to take the chicken right out of your pot!

 

[drifter]

Vegetarianism – a form of child abuse
All the nutrients that the body needs other than vitamin B-12 can be obtained from vegetable sources if extreme care is taken. Something most vegetarian and vegan parents absolutely do not do.
The availability of some of these essential nutrients is adversely affected by the special characteristics of a strictly vegetarian diet. Nutrients so affected include:

iron
calcium
zinc
copper
manganese
selenium
riboflavin
fat soluble vitamins, particularly vitamin D
The best sources of these are meat, poultry and seafood, which vegetarians avoid. But not only does the vegan diet consist of foods which are poorer sources of these nutrients, it necessarily contains high levels of fibre, phytic acid and oxalate, all of which are known both to bind with the nutrients in such a way as to inhibit their absorption in the gut and also to deplete the body of the minerals it has. The vegetarian ends up with a negative balance whereby the more he or she eats, the worse it gets.
Replace the meat with something sweet!

Vegetarian children often fill up on just sweets
Children hate being vegetarians. They are forced into this sickly state by evil parents who are more concerned with the well-being of animals and fish than the health of their own children and even grandchildren. Many vegetarian children have simply had meat and sometimes even fish removed from their diets. They don't always eat more vegetables than non-vegetarian children, but they do eat significantly more sweets. Very often, these sweets are packaged to appeal to idiot vegetarian parents who think that granola coated in chocolate is somehow healthier than a Snickers bar. When vegetarians bring their children over for dinner, you can see this for yourself, the way the children are a bit solemn when the other children happily eat their portion of meat, but then they hungrily sit and lick their lips and can hardly wait for the desserts, in which they overindulge and eat far more cakes and sweets than any of the other children.See this for yourself when you dine with vegetarian friends and their stunted, malnourished offspring.

 

[Reddog]

http://www.vegfriend.com/forum/topics/i-became-vegetarian-to-be-healthier-but-it-s-changed-my-whole


My reasons for becoming Veg was different to most. I done it as an experiment!

I have always been very open minded (but not too much or my brain would fall out :P ) so when an acquaintance began explaining to me why he was vegetarian and why scientifically it is healthier, it naturally perked my interest as the #1 most important thing to me is how I treat my body (not just in food but in information as well as other things)

I soon found out after a little research that the myth of Vegetarians being thin and unhealthy was just that, a myth!
There was no real evidence to show a vegetarian diet was a detriment to health, on the contrary, it boosts your health and subsequently your lifespan! Perfect!!

After promising to myself to give it a 3 month trail I now think completely different about meat, I mean a COMPLETE turn around, literally it changed my view on the world, animals and people! To me, the thought of even putting a dead animal in my body is one of the worst things that can happen to me! When I go shopping I see the meat section as a cemetery (a real bad one coz the dead bodies are not even berried). Now, I can't even understand how people can even eat meat, even though for more than 90% of my life I was a meat eater! It's a massive turn around. I wouldn't even date a meat eater because I know if we kissed it would be a serious problem for me.

I'm pretty new to being a Vegetarian though, at just 2 years started. I think I maybe even turning Vegan as I have recently given up eggs purely on the basis of that I don't feel right about eating them, deep inside I feel morally wrong about consuming eggs (I am fully aware that eggs don't grow into chicks unless they get fertilised btw). Which is another thing that has changed dramatically with me.

When I was a meat eater, rather shamefully, I didn't care at all about animal cruelty, I liked my life of ignorance and believed the meat was nice and healthy and there was no suffering or downside to my actions of eating meat, it was just normal, nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone else is doing it, right?

But now all that has changed, I can't imagine how we as humans think it's right to take a life of an animal! Why it is illegal to kill a cat but you can massacre a load of cows and it's normal!? Who decided that one!??? I mean, WOW! It just blows my brain, I can't even come up with a rational explanation for that...

Kill a cat, NO
Kill a cow, OK no problem

Damn, I'm just lost for words...

I had a lot more to say but I'm gonna end my rant there for now coz I just fried my own brain. lol

Tony, your short note is awakening. I will give it a real good try. Thank you, brother.

 

[drifter]

Interesting facts I found on the net ... Don't be surprise

Adolph Hitler was a vegetarian and loved animals !!
Have you ever heard a vegetarian tell you how vegetarians are kinder and gentler people because they care about animals?

 

[drifter]

1)Pol Pot - a vegan - murdered some 2 million Cambodians in his lifetime

2) Charles Milles Manson is a person with an unusual ability to dominate others. He assembled a destructive, doomsday cult around himself, which the media later called The Family. At one time, it numbered in excess of 100 individuals at the Spahn Ranch some 30 miles northwest of Los Angeles CA. Manson was referred to both as "God" and "Satan" by his followers. As the family's guru, he claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ. He's a vegetarian too

 

[drifter]

Meat lover - What's the best way to keep milk fresh?
Vegan - Leave it in the cow.

 

[kopiuncle]

hi sifu, i totally agree with the examples given.

life style modifcation and beliefs must also display wholesome thoughts, words and actions.

any form of extremism is bad and can lead to fanaticism and catrastrophe. take the middle way....

 

[drifter]

Meat-eater: Did you hear about the new study saying vegans are more likely to go blind? I guess it's because you don't get the proper nutrition.
Vegan: Nah, it's just from reading all of those tiny ingredients lists.

 

[Alamaking]

Vegetarians wishing to make a political statement should strive for consistency. Cows are slaughtered not only to put steak on the table, but to obtain components used in soaps, shampoos, cosmetics, plastics, pharmaceuticals, waxes (as in candles and crayons), modern building materials and hydraulic brake fluid for airplanes. The membrane that vibrates in your telephone contains beef gelatin. .......

Same statement HERE

It is my understanding that most vegetarians or vegans do it mainly for the environment or because they don’t like the idea of killing or mistreating animals.
Those principles are very noble, but I’ll explain why they often don’t make any senses if you think about the bigger picture. I wish I had this kind of information before jumping on a raw food diet of only fruits, vegetables and nuts a couple of years ago and greatly compromising my health.......

And HERE....

They often feel that they are morally and ethically superior to the rest of us and are eager to pass judgement and seek to educate those of us who do not follow this substandard, unhealthy dietary fad. Perhaps worst of all, some seek to pass influence over children, and to use their positions of trust with the children of others to feed such children vegan and vegetarian dietary propaganda.

and HERE....

Wah kaoz Drifter, can you have your own thinking and opinion or not?

 

[drifter]

What did one vegetarian spy say to the other vegetarian spy?
We have to stop meating like this.

 

[drifter]

Ak , don't u think it make sense ? I think it make sense so I want to share it here . Anything wrong ?

 

[drifter]

If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat ?

 

[Conqueror]

The Earth Cannot Cope With The Enormous Demand

I think, however, that this issue comes from the fact that we changed the natural order of things a long time ago and overpopulated the earth while killing other species in large proportions with our agriculture.

I think we are killing them and ourselves fast. The seas and oceans are not able to provide seafood and sustain our demand for it some years later.