How many of you are prepared to pay $800 for this watch ?

[Ramseth]

What's a 900k watch? Astronautic movements with light years?

 

[drifter]

Honestly, I have not heard or seen a 900k watch. Whoever bought this watch must be a billionaire.

http://www.mostexpensivewatch.net/

 

[king_of_abalone]

The main design is alright but totally destroyed by the outer frame and the childishly big "12" inside and "6" outside. And I don't advise buying watches with leather straps, not for the humid tropics.

Do you work in construction or fry char kway teow?

Cos most of us who work in air conditioned offices do not have problems with leather straps.

In fact, the more expensive and highly regarded watches like patek, AP and VC mostly come on leather straps. So do IWC and Panerai.

 

[Ramseth]

Do you work in construction or fry char kway teow?

Cos most of us who work in air conditioned offices do not have problems with leather straps.

In fact, the more expensive and highly regarded watches like patek, AP and VC mostly come on leather straps. So do IWC and Panerai.

I swim with my watch on.

 

[king_of_abalone]

I like Casio too. Their simple digital watches are the best if you want timing precision. I wonder what's the Rolex, Omega, PP so-called movement and clockwork mechanism for? Frankly, neither idiots nor geniuses can tell exactly accurate time by 1/10th min. or 1/100th min. by looking at them. Most can't and don't even synchronise the hour, min. and sec. hands on the dial to any degree of decent accuracy. These are dress watches. But I like Rolex, as a dress watch of course.

People who wear steel bracelet watches as their dress watches mean only one thing: that they only have one decent watch and are clearly not watch fans.

Would you take watch buying advice from such people?

It is like saying a Toyota Camry is a much more awesome car than a Maserati cos it breaks down less often, saves petrol, can seat 5 people, air con very cold in this humid weather, etc

 

[Ramseth]

Do you work in construction or fry char kway teow?

Cos most of us who work in air conditioned offices do not have problems with leather straps.

In fact, the more expensive and highly regarded watches like patek, AP and VC mostly come on leather straps. So do IWC and Panerai.

I swim with my watch on.

And anyway, construction workers don't wear dress watches at work.

 

[king_of_abalone]

Apologies, I forgot there are those who collect watches as either a hobby or investment. I have 2 friends who are into this. Was also told Shanmugam is into watches.

The people i know who collect watches for investment lost their pants the last few years. The top end limited edition watches were heavily speculated and prices were crazily inflated by the high living investment bankers and hedge fundies in the years leading to the US financial meltdown. And the stupid watch "investors" followed. Dumb move, as values were halved during the crisis and hardly recovered even now.

Watches as a hobby is fine, just don't involve investment in it.

 

[king_of_abalone]

And anyway, construction workers don't wear dress watches at work.

I asked if you worked in construction, never said you were a construction worker.

Anyway, my contractor who comes to fix pipes and other stuff in my building wears a Rolex Submariner. He wears it while fixing the stuff.

So does the hawker who fries Hokkien Mee at Newton. His is 18k gold. But don't think he does much frying these days.

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Eh......Casio fans, don't come here and kaypoh, okay ?

 

[Ramseth]

Anyway, my contractor who comes to fix pipes and other stuff in my building wears a Rolex Submariner. He wears it while fixing the stuff.

So does the hawker who fries Hokkien Mee at Newton. His is 18k gold. But don't think he does much frying these days.

Great, I'm a Rolex fan.

I think seriously, the question objectively, is not about the brand in this little sidetrack, it's about leather versus metal.

 

[king_of_abalone]

What's a 900k watch? Astronautic movements with light years?

Just a very fine finished case in precious metal, a very finely hand finished movement with high complications like perpetual calendar, minute repeater, moon phase with double chronograph and a tourbillon cage. Just kidding. But yeah Patek has done something like that before and it sold for one million plus million euros.

It isn't what the watch can do or perform that makes it so expensive.

A casio can do loads more at more accuracy at $100 per piece.

It is the amount of sheer artistry and highly detailed craftmanship plus the amount of work put into making the watch. You're paying for the salary of the artists and craftsmen who put a huge chunk of their lives into creating that perfect masterpiece.

Well, i don't expect fans of a mass production line manufactured, overhyped, over-advertised and overpriced piece of metal like rolex to understand that.

 

[king_of_abalone]

Great, I'm a Rolex fan.

I think seriously, the question objectively, is not about the brand in this little sidetrack, it's about leather versus metal.

Leather is of course more fragile than steel. Genuine alligator or crocodile skin is pretty tough though and it is the beauty of the grain that sells. An original AP hornback croc strap for the offshore would set you back $800+. An aftermarket (for Panerai) artisan "vachetta" calf leather strap made from Bavarian calves costs anywhere from $200 to almost $400. The original from Panerai costs even more. That costs more than a rubber Casio, steel seiko or titanium citizen.

But one does not expect to put his $20k or $50k or $100k watch with leather strap through hell.

If i were to go through some heavy abusive activity while wearing a watch, i'd wear a Rubber or steel casio or a steel or titanium quartz eco drive Citizen. Why would i wear a $7000 Rolex to do that?

 

[Ramseth]

Just a very fine finished case in precious metal, a very finely hand finished movement with high complications like perpetual calendar, minute repeater, moon phase with double chronograph and a tourbillon cage. Just kidding. But yeah Patek has done something like that before and it sold for one million plus million euros.

It isn't what the watch can do or perform that makes it so expensive.

A casio can do loads more at more accuracy at $100 per piece.

It is the amount of sheer highly skilled artistry and highly detailed craftmanship plus the amount of work put into making the watch. You're paying for the salary of the artists and craftsmen who put a huge chunk of their lives into creating that perfect masterpiece.

Well, i don't expect fans of a mass production line manufactured, overhyped, over-advertised and overpriced piece of metal like rolex to understand that.

I can understand and appreciate that. That's why I first disqualify myself as a collector. I can understand and appreciate collectors and horologists. For the rest who can afford it, it's just a dress watch, or for expensive model, a status symbol. I think I've made in clear in my earlier postings.

 

[drifter]

Do you work in construction or fry char kway teow?

Cos most of us who work in air conditioned offices do not have problems with leather straps.

In fact, the more expensive and highly regarded watches like patek, AP and VC mostly come on leather straps. So do IWC and Panerai.

For panerai , they comes with a rubber belt as well ....

 

[drifter]

People who wear steel bracelet watches as their dress watches mean only one thing: that they only have one decent watch and are clearly not watch fans.

Would you take watch buying advice from such people?

It is like saying a Toyota Camry is a much more awesome car than a Maserati cos it breaks down less often, saves petrol, can seat 5 people, air con very cold in this humid weather, etc

Agreed...

 

[king_of_abalone]

I can understand and appreciate that. That's why I first disqualify myself as a collector. I can understand and appreciate collectors and horologists. For the rest who can afford it, it's just a dress watch, or for expensive model, a status symbol. I think I've made in clear in my earlier postings.

Yeah the line gets blurred between the real aficionado and the guy who just likes to flash his cash on his wrist.

It is the same with wines and cars.

How many porsche drivers out there really appreciate the car, besides the fact that it gets him a lot more sex than a Lexus would? Ditto ferrari. It is perhaps a sad fact of life that the workshop mechanic who services and repairs the ferrari would appreciate the technicalities of the car hell of a lot more than the rich buffoon who drives and crashes it cos he doesn't know how to handle the car (just an example, no offense)

 

[drifter]

The people i know who collect watches for investment lost their pants the last few years. The top end limited edition watches were heavily speculated and prices were crazily inflated by the high living investment bankers and hedge fundies in the years leading to the US financial meltdown. And the stupid watch "investors" followed. Dumb move, as values were halved during the crisis and hardly recovered even now.

Watches as a hobby is fine, just don't involve investment in it.

Some timepiece collectors follow trend ..remember got one time panerai was out of stock even in japan ( it started with Some popular actor or actress wearing it ) ...if one want to collect watch the best don't follow trend ... Go for the limited edition ....safer but more expensive .

 

[drifter]

I asked if you worked in construction, never said you were a construction worker.

Anyway, my contractor who comes to fix pipes and other stuff in my building wears a Rolex Submariner. He wears it while fixing the stuff.

So does the hawker who fries Hokkien Mee at Newton. His is 18k gold. But don't think he does much frying these days.

Submariner is a sport watch ...so it's ok ..I wear it for surfing and snowboarding too .

 

[king_of_abalone]

For panerai , they comes with a rubber belt as well ....

I hardly see anyone wearing their panerais on the rubber strap that is included in the box.

Wearing the rubber strap with panerai is like wearing too tight briefs or wearing cheap shoes. It is right up there with the folks who put headrest covers on their car seats.... Or those who leave the plastic covers on their new car seats or new leather sofa.... It is very... Jewish.

The rubber strap supplied in the panerai box is of very cheapo quality.

The only watch that looks good on rubber strap would be the Hublot Big Bang. This is of course due to the fact that their rubber is a lot more tactile and superior quality than panerai's. Hublot use a highly specced rubber compound for their straps.

 

[drifter]

Leather is of course more fragile than steel. Genuine alligator or crocodile skin is pretty tough though and it is the beauty of the grain that sells. An original AP hornback croc strap for the offshore would set you back $800+. An aftermarket (for Panerai) artisan "vachetta" calf leather strap made from Bavarian calves costs anywhere from $200 to almost $400. The original from Panerai costs even more. That costs more than a rubber Casio, steel seiko or titanium citizen.

But one does not expect to put his $20k or $50k or $100k watch with leather strap through hell.

If i were to go through some heavy abusive activity while wearing a watch, i'd wear a Rubber or steel casio or a steel or titanium quartz eco drive Citizen. Why would i wear a $7000 Rolex to do that?

Yes ...totally agreed with you . Panerai original leather belts alone cost me $326 .