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How do you ever top the Beijing's Games?

scroobal

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Last week in Bangkok, was talking to a Brit girl who was lamenting how London was going to upstage the Beijing's Games.

Looking at the Games as a whole including the now closing Ceremony, one wonders who can ever top the Beijing Games.

Truly a superlative performance by the most populous nation. Spectacular organisation, beautiful men and women, great colours and uniforms, costumes, exotic props and extraordinary effort and all with flowing grace.
 

Ah Guan

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You can't.

This is the kind of show a giant nation can put on when its growth is accelerating.

Developed countries might have the capital but they would never have the point to prove.

Enjoy the closing ceremony. It will become a memory I will tell my children.
 

scroobal

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You can't.

This is the kind of show a giant nation can put on when its growth is accelerating.

Developed countries might have the capital but they would never have the point to prove.

Enjoy the closing ceremony. It will become a memory I will tell my children.
Completely agree with you.
 

makapaaa

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There's more to life than soothing the lumber 1 ego! The Londoners would hopefully not resort to faking it out to make things perfect and so "unhuman".
 

ysouk

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The Olympics games is not measured by the opening or closing ceremony but by the athletics who took part. Michael Phelps, Usain Bolts and even our athletics who won the second Olympics medal. These are the moments people will remember.

The opening and closing ceremony are spectacular, you will need lots of cheap labour, low cost of building and massive budget. Very few can or willing to match that. Probably in North Korea, you can see a bigger scale spectacle but the people are too starved to put up a show.
 

eRRoRist

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As usual, nothing is ever good enough for some of the people here. "Do also got things to say, don't do also got things to say" Nothing anybody can do will make them happy. Guess it will make them sound more high class, make them sound like they are better then the "normal" people. I suppose being a hater makes your balls feel bigger. :biggrin:
 

jw5

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Last week in Bangkok, was talking to a Brit girl who was lamenting how London was going to upstage the Beijing's Games.

Looking at the Games as a whole including the now closing Ceremony, one wonders who can ever top the Beijing Games.

Truly a superlative performance by the most populous nation. Spectacular organisation, beautiful men and women, great colours and uniforms, costumes, exotic props and extraordinary effort and all with flowing grace.
scoobal
Why is there a need to "top the beijing games"?
Why must people, organizations and countries always be so competitive and be better than another party?
Isn't it enough to do the best they can with the resources that they have?
 

Leongsam

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Looking at the Games as a whole including the now closing Ceremony, one wonders who can ever top the Beijing Games.

The easiest way to upstage the "fakes" is to come up with the genuine article.

Fake ceremonies, fake singers, fake birth certs and worst of all, the Chinese don't even have the guts to admit their deceit after being caught with their pants down. Instead, they make more fakes to cover up their sins.
 

NgEjay

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Truly a superlative performance by the most populous nation. Spectacular organisation, beautiful men and women, great colours and uniforms, costumes, exotic props and extraordinary effort and all with flowing grace.


What is the price that the working class people in China had to pay in order for the authorities to stage such a spectacular show?
 

Loongsam

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eRRoRist, I agree with you. No athlete like to end up in an Olympic village that looks like an afterthought and all the venues are unkept. Worse, the stadiums are half-full because the host country does a lousy job in promoting the games to its people. The games can also be a useful cultural, civic, political, environmental and economic statement for the host country.

China has a wide population of people who loves sports and very competitive people who go to watch their own athletes win. Basically, the Chinese just love games and sports.

Did you watch the marathon race? The roads were packed with cheering people waving flags and screaming their heads off to give encouragement to all the runners, not just the Chinese runners.

That is the Olympic spirit which will never be possible if the host's government does not give it a helping hand. Samarrach was so right to support China to host the Olympics and set the ground for China to bid and convince the IOC it can do the job. That was 7 years ago.
 

scroobal

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Why is there a need to "top the beijing games"?
Why must people, organizations and countries always be so competitive and be better than another party?
Isn't it enough to do the best they can with the resources that they have?
Thats the beauty of the Olympics, its about breaking records, pushing oneself to the extreme and doing the impossible. After Barcelona, Sydney and Athens was rather tame.
 

scroobal

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The easiest way to upstage the "fakes" is to come up with the genuine article.

Fake ceremonies, fake singers, fake birth certs and worst of all, the Chinese don't even have the guts to admit their deceit after being caught with their pants down. Instead, they make more fakes to cover up their sins.
Unfortunately its something the Chinese will also be remembered for - "the Counterfeit Games"

Jacques Rogge will also be remembered for his "Brave" attack on Bolt and his cowardice on He Xixin affair.

I guess the good, the bad and the ugly.
 

hughgrant

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apparently lots of farmers/peasants suffered as a result of relocation, water diversion from crops, cutting down trees etc
 

jw5

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Thats the beauty of the Olympics, its about breaking records, pushing oneself to the extreme and doing the impossible. After Barcelona, Sydney and Athens was rather tame.
Yes, for the individual or team olympian, by all means train your hardest and try to better the world or olympic record.
But for cities or countries hosting events (including Singapore celebrating national day), why must more and more financial resouces be poured in year after year to make it grander than the previous one? Just do something interesting or unique would be sufficient right?
 

Logisex

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Beijing 2008 will be remembered as the greatest Olympic ever........

London can outstage Beijing but it will bankrupt not only London, but the whole of GB
 

annexa

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Seeing the "lament" and the kpkb here by probably non-Chinese, it makes me ponder on the "Ang Mo and Western World take things more generously and graciously" bullshit.

All London needs to do, is smile and welcome the world. The warmth of the people will win over the grandeur of whatever Beijing did.

But then, this year GB did not make it to Euro quater finals. And there was no riots and fights.
 

scroobal

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Yes, for the individual or team olympian, by all means train your hardest and try to better the world or olympic record.
But for cities or countries hosting events (including Singapore celebrating national day), why must more and more financial resouces be poured in year after year to make it grander than the previous one? Just do something interesting or unique would be sufficient right?
Do agree bro. I hope some NGO out there can do a financial and social impact study which may set down a set of guidelines. My understanding is that except for Atlanta which was financial and organisation disaster, the rest indeed made money or broke even. Beijing however has not been looked at. By the fact that the Chinese were putting $30BUSD each month in their reserves shows that they can afford it.

The fear of course is that they might have stamped on individuals and society to get there. Am aware of forced relocation and also that the construction industry will nosedive now is very real.
 

Soundwave

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Yes, for the individual or team olympian, by all means train your hardest and try to better the world or olympic record.
But for cities or countries hosting events (including Singapore celebrating national day), why must more and more financial resouces be poured in year after year to make it grander than the previous one? Just do something interesting or unique would be sufficient right?

Agreed. China did all that to show the world it has arrived. London does not need to do that.
 
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