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Honest Answer! Raymond LIM Siang Keat did a Changi Kuku bird hit Quantas Engine!

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So far the whole profile of this incident totally fits the typical feature of what the aeronautical engineers called BIRD STRIKE, which typically happens during take off when engines blasted full power and suck birds or objects inside of themselves around the airport. In this case it is Raymond LIM Siang Keat's baby which he claimed to be World's BEST SAFEST in the world PERFECTION CHANGI.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_strike

:eek::rolleyes:

Birds gets sucked into turbine engine intakes by huge turbine suction necessary to jet out from exhausts behind them to propel the hundreds of tons of commercial fights. The blades spins ultra high speed and are made light (thus not very strong) and can disintegrate itself by high centrifugal forces. During high power phases of take off, lots of highly flammable jet fuel goes to engines and when it disintegrates it is a big flash of flame.


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Pictures of famous bird-strikes including this years Hudson River NY miracle water landing:

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http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...after-bird-strike-destroyed-kalitta-747f.html

Tell us the truth fast and pse Honest Answer! Raymond LIM Siang Keat !

Tell us before we found out from other than you! This is your multi-million dollar job so do it for what you are paid by us!
:mad:
 

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To be fair, even if it's a bird-strike, it happened over Indonesian sky to an Australian airplane.
 

motormafia

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To be fair, even if it's a bird-strike, it happened over Indonesian sky to an Australian airplane.

Nope! By the time the Airbus reached Batam, it was already too high for birds to ingest into it's engine. It happened on Changi Runway for sure! When altitudes was low enough for birds. More precisely the bird was a Singaporean not Indon FT! :biggrin:

The disintegration and fall of debris will be a moment after the strike on Changi runway, even this video showed the same. In within a minute from take-off any plane heading south east (depending on wind they will instruct pilot to go either south west or north east) will be over Batam. That is where the debris shits will hit. Otherwise it would be Johore!

:biggrin:
 

Ramseth

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Nope! By the time the Airbus reached Batam, it was already too high for birds to ingest into it's engine. It happened on Changi Runway for sure! When altitudes was low enough for birds. More precisely the bird was a Singaporean not Indon FT! :biggrin:

The disintegration and fall of debris will be a moment after the strike on Changi runway, even this video showed the same. In within a minute from take-off any plane heading south east (depending on wind they will instruct pilot to go either south west or north east) will be over Batam. That is where the debris shits will hit. Otherwise it would be Johore!

:biggrin:

Then you have to ask Yaacob Ibrahim. Why as environment minister, he keeps so many crows as pets all over Singapore? :confused: :mad:
 

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Then you have to ask Yaacob Ibrahim. Why as environment minister, he keeps so many crows as pets all over Singapore? :confused: :mad:

Is it not supposed to be Transport Ministry's duty to eliminate birds around airport? Or are birds terrorists? Then Shanmugan kenna again?:p
 

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The luck of PAP Govt these days worse than prostitute cunts.

I they don't die they will suffer even more, they should be begging for death.
 

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Their jobs are supposed to lookout for birds and hold any takeoff when birds were spotted. Their radars are suppose to warn automatically.


RSAF declares war




30 Aug `04, 7:16AM

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/singapore/story/0,4386,269939,00.html?

Egrets are the biggest threat to pilots

MIGRATORY egrets pose the biggest bird-strike threat to airports here, because of their size.

But it is not just the winged visitors that worry pilots.

Advertisement

Aside from the pigeons, sparrows, swallows, mynahs and plovers, there is also the occasional visits from wild dogs, monitor lizards, snakes and, recently at Tengah Air Base, a wild boar as well.

To keep them off the runway, airports take many steps:

Pyrotechnics: Flares are fired that set off two loud bangs which scare the birds away.

Bird distress calls: A hand-held loudhailer broadcasts digitally-recorded sounds of birds in distress. There is a choice of crow, pigeon, mynah, sparrow and osprey. The crow call is also used for egrets. Changi Airport also uses the calls of predatory birds to scare off visitors.

Chemical repellant: An SMS from the control tower activates a machine that sprays a non-toxic chemical extracted from grapes known as methyl anthranilate, that irritates the mucous membranes of the eyes and mouth of the bird.

Grass cutting: Grass around the airfield is kept to between 15cm and 20cm for better visibility and to prevent birds from hiding in it. Closer to the runway, it is longer, between 25cm and 30cm, as it irritates long-legged fowl such as egrets.

Plugging holes: Holes in the ground are covered so that they do not collect water which breed mosquitoes and earthworms that attract birds.

Birds of prey: Goshawks, a powerful and persistent hunter whose presence will spook other birds, is being tried out at Tengah Air Base.

Food control: Changi Airport uses pesticides to cut down the number of insects in the grass. Garbage is not left in the open and fruit trees are not planted within the airport.
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FOWLER the show bird took off on her maiden military flight at Tengah Air Base in April, on a mission to scare away birds from the runway used by fighter planes for take-offs and landings.

But the 10-year-old Harris hawk, a predatory bird from the Jurong BirdPark, failed to live up to expectations.

Advertisement

Now, plans are afoot to import two goshawks from Germany - hunter birds known for their tenacity and strength.

Not that Fowler did not scare birds away. Circling over the sprawling airfield in Lim Chu Kang Road, she shooed away groups of crows, swifts and swallows.

But she was not tenacious enough. Said the executive director of Jurong BirdPark, Dr Wong Hon Mun: 'She's trained for our show. If the birds fly away, she won't be bothered to go after them.'

Those manning the airstrip of the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) - like others around the world - are on a daily lookout for birds that could collide with planes.

The feathered menace can dent an aircraft's body or be sucked into its jet engines, forcing an emergency landing or, worse, bringing it down.

Collision with birds, as well as some deer and other wildlife, killed more than 150 people globally and destroyed more than 140 planes between 1990 and last year, according to a United States Federal Aviation Administration report.

US civil aviators lose an estimated US$500 million (S$861 million) a year to bird strikes, with 5,940 reported cases last year. The US Air Force lost more than US$50 million to 1,293 bird hits last year.

Changi and Seletar airports see one to two bird strikes in total each month, involving small birds like swallows, mynahs and munias which do not damage aircraft, a spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore told The Straits Times. However, the monthly total is 10 for the RSAF at its four airbases in Changi, Paya Lebar, Sembawang and Tengah.

Pilots have felt the shock of birds hitting their aircraft and technicians have found blood stains and other remains in the jet engines.

'The worst is some minor damage to the engine, with a nick or two on a blade, nothing serious,' said Lieutenant-Colonel Penny Ng, the commanding officer of Tengah Air Base's flying support squadron. 'But everybody treats it seriously. You simply can't risk life, and the aircraft are expensive.'

A two-man team patrols the airfield at Tengah and alerts the control tower on spotting any flock of birds - from pigeons to plovers - which start warming themselves on the tarmac as the sun rises.

The airbase's biggest worry is the migratory egret that appears between September and November because it is larger and could cause more damage in a collision.

To keep them away, it uses a combination of methods - from keeping grass long in some areas to poke at the long-legged birds, to firing loud flares followed by pre- recorded bird distress calls from a hand-held loudhailer.

About three years ago, it also tested a machine that automatically sprays a chemical that irritates the eyes and mouths of birds.

It worked well, until the birds caught on to the times at which the chemical was released, said Mr Thomas Fernandez, managing director of home-grown Pestbusters and sole distributor of the German-made gadget.

The gadget was tweaked so it could be activated by SMS from the control tower when a flock of birds were spotted on the runway. SMS is used as other remote-control methods, such as those using radio frequencies, could interfere with the aircraft. Eight machines now dot the airfield.

At Changi International Airport, measures include preventing birds from feeding there.

Pesticides are used to reduce the number of insects in the grass. Also, garbage is not allowed to be left in the open and no fruit trees are planted.

Still, there are one or two bird strikes a month and Lt-Col Ng is not satisfied: 'The idea is to bring it down to zero.'

Here is where the goshawks come in: It takes only one of them to clear a large area of birds. It will be one more tool in the arsenal to keep birds away - if it works.

Said Lt-Col Ng: 'It still needs a fair bit of fine-tuning. It's very early days.'
 

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Qantas Tackles Bird Strike Problems
Posted in Birdstrike Research on Jul 27th, 2009 | no responses

June 13, 2009

Qantas and QantasLink have led the field in a new air safety enhancement. Bird strikes and related damage have been significantly reduced across the entire Qantas and QantasLink B737 and DHC8 fleet by a new and relatively low cost initiative.

The bird strike problem was highlighted when an Airbus A320 passenger jet was forced to ‘splash down’ in New York’s Hudson River after it encountered a flock of Canadian geese heading for a winter in Florida.

Both its engines failed, but a skilful emergency ditching saved all the passengers and crew. However the event highlighted the ever-present hazard that bird strikes pose to commercial passenger aircraft.

It turns out that Qantas was already on the case. The event had highlighted the point that bird strikes are not limited to the lower airspace around airfields; they can occur at altitudes of up to 10,000 feet or even higher, especially when long-distance migratory birds are involved.

It is now known that damage from smaller birds such as swallows, previously thought to be harmless, can inflict undetectable damage to turbine blades because they are small enough to pass through engine compressors to the “hot end.” The scorched remains of their dense bones become embedded in small cooling airflow passages on the turbine blades, causing localised overheating and eventual shortening of blade life, resulting in expensive unscheduled overhauls.

Qantas has now trialled and adopted a relatively low-cost electronic device on its domestic aircraft fleet that significantly reduces the frequency of bird strikes. Pulselite is an electronic switching system that causes an aircraft’s landing lights to pulse 45 times per minute like the flashing lights on emergency vehicles. The technology in effect, better announces an aircraft’s approach, thereby giving a bird more time to get out of the way.

The Qantas evaluation collected data sets from “host” B737 aircraft in the 400 (Classic) and 800 (New Generation – NG) fleets that had the Pulselite system installed. It then compared outcomes against the remaining non-host aircraft in each respective fleet over a minimum period of 12 months operational service. In some statistics from the trials the number of birdstrikes per 1,000 departures was reduced by up to 66%.

Before the trials were completed the statistics were so convincing that the decision was made to equip the entire Qantas B737 fleet with Pulselite. The system is now fully operational in Australasia with a number of other operators, including QantasLink’s Dash 8 100/200/300/Q400 Fleets).

During 2002 – 2003, Sunstate Airlines conducted a 12-month evaluation of the system in five DHC8-300 aircraft. The results, compared to the remaining eight non-Pulselite equipped DHC8 aircraft, clearly demonstrated lamp life improvement of 300%+, wildlife strike reduction of approximately 50% and birdstrike reductions of approximately 35%.

Singapore Flying College (LR-45 Fleet), RAAF VIP SQD 34 (Challenger 604 fleet), National Jet (DHC8), Tenix Corp (DHC8), Gippsland Aeronautics (GA8 Airvan) as well as a number of helicopter and private aircraft operators in Australia also now have the system installed.

Airlines such as Air Nelson (Air Zealand), Horizon Airline (part of the Alaska Air Group), Air Pacific, Air Vanuatu, Jet Connect (Qantas New Zealand) are also customers.

Advantages now acknowledged for the system are enhanced conspicuity to other pilots and to air traffic controllers, and increased landing light bulb life because each lamp operates approximately 150° cooler than normal, diminishing the effects of vibration on the bulb filament, reduced unscheduled engine maintenance/overhaul costs boosting return on investment, and enhanced safety and schedule integrity, as well as improved core safety values.

The system’s control units are a compact set of electrical components that will apply regulated pulsing power to the specified external lights instead of the normal steady “on” position, the only visible difference is an additional selector switch position on the landing light switches, and the system is easily integrated into the aircraft’s existing external lighting and traffic collision and avoidance (TCAS) systems which can automatically activate the system and connected external lighting upon receipt of a TCAS traffic advisory if required.

Pulselite is not normally restricted by aircraft minimum equipment lists, unless required by the operator, and is available in units for general aviation aircraft, large capacity 28 volt D.C. units for larger aircraft, and 115 volt AC. units for military and transport aircraft.

Unit cost ranges from US$295.00 for an average GA type aircraft up to US$4,595.00 for an aircraft in the Boeing B737 category.

The smallest unit weighs 0.28 kgs, has capacity for two lights at 125 Watts, or 1 Light at 250 Watts. The largest units weigh 0.88 kg and can operate on 28 VDC Switching Voltage, or 115VAC Switching Voltage and operate up to 6 circuits of 600 Watts per circuit.

The system is now standard on the high-end Grumman Gulfstream, and available as an option on 85% of all new aircraft in the USA corporate aviation community. The system is mandated in the aerial wildfire fighting community in the USA and now also for firebombing aircraft and rotorcraft in many parts of Australia. It is also mandated in the USA for helicopter tour operators in heavily congested areas such as Grand Canyon, Hawaii and New York etc to make them more conspicuous in the ‘see and avoid’ environments.
Related Articles:

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* Bird Strike Reporting
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* A new push to avert cell-tower bird strikes
* On the Radar: Bird-Proofing U.S. Air Traffic
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* Tech, Ops Changes Eyed To Cut Bird Strikes
 

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"Airport Wildlife Control: Egrets are the biggest threat to pilots"


Monday, August 30, 2004

Egrets are the biggest threat to pilots
Singapore - The Straits Times


MIGRATORY egrets pose the biggest bird-strike threat to airports here,
because of their size.

But it is not just the winged visitors that worry pilots.

Aside from the pigeons, sparrows, swallows, mynahs and plovers, there is
also the occasional visits from wild dogs, monitor lizards, snakes and,
recently at Tengah Air Base, a wild boar as well.

To keep them off the runway, airports take many steps:

Pyrotechnics: Flares are fired that set off two loud bangs which
scare the birds away.

Bird distress calls: A hand-held loudhailer broadcasts
digitally-recorded sounds of birds in distress. There is a choice of
crow, pigeon, mynah, sparrow and osprey. The crow call is also used for
egrets. Changi Airport also uses the calls of predatory birds to scare
off visitors.

Chemical repellant: An SMS from the control tower activates a machine
that sprays a non-toxic chemical extracted from grapes known as methyl
anthranilate, that irritates the mucous membranes of the eyes and mouth
of the bird.

Grass cutting: Grass around the airfield is kept to between 15cm and
20cm for better visibility and to prevent birds from hiding in it.
Closer to the runway, it is longer, between 25cm and 30cm, as it
irritates long-legged fowl such as egrets.

Plugging holes: Holes in the ground are covered so that they do not
collect water which breed mosquitoes and earthworms that attract birds.

Birds of prey: Goshawks, a powerful and persistent hunter whose
presence will spook other birds, is being tried out at Tengah Air Base.

Food control: Changi Airport uses pesticides to cut down the number
of insects in the grass. Garbage is not left in the open and fruit trees
are not planted within the airport.

Hunter birds tackle feathered menace

BirdPark hawk shoos away birds to avoid collision with planes but it
isn't tenacious enough, so plan is to import goshawks

FOWLER the show bird took off on her maiden military flight at Tengah
Air Base in April, on a mission to scare away birds from the runway used
by fighter planes for take-offs and landings.

But the 10-year-old Harris hawk, a predatory bird from the Jurong
BirdPark, failed to live up to expectations.

Now, plans are afoot to import two goshawks from Germany - hunter birds
known for their tenacity and strength.

Not that Fowler did not scare birds away. Circling over the sprawling
airfield in Lim Chu Kang Road, she shooed away groups of crows, swifts
and swallows.

But she was not tenacious enough. Said the executive director of Jurong
BirdPark, Dr Wong Hon Mun: 'She's trained for our show. If the birds fly
away, she won't be bothered to go after them.'

Those manning the airstrip of the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF)
- like others around the world - are on a daily lookout for birds that
could collide with planes.

The feathered menace can dent an aircraft's body or be sucked into its
jet engines, forcing an emergency landing or, worse, bringing it down.

Collision with birds, as well as some deer and other wildlife, killed
more than 150 people globally and destroyed more than 140 planes between
1990 and last year, according to a United States Federal Aviation
Administration report.

US civil aviators lose an estimated US$500 million (S$861 million) a
year to bird strikes, with 5,940 reported cases last year. The US Air
Force lost more than US$50 million to 1,293 bird hits last year.

Changi and Seletar airports see one to two bird strikes in total each
month, involving small birds like swallows, mynahs and munias which do
not damage aircraft, a spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority of
Singapore told The Straits Times. However, the monthly total is 10 for
the RSAF at its four airbases in Changi, Paya Lebar, Sembawang and
Tengah.

Pilots have felt the shock of birds hitting their aircraft and
technicians have found blood stains and other remains in the jet
engines.

'The worst is some minor damage to the engine, with a nick or two on a
blade, nothing serious,' said Lieutenant-Colonel Penny Ng, the
commanding officer of Tengah Air Base's flying support squadron. 'But
everybody treats it seriously. You simply can't risk life, and the
aircraft are expensive.'

A two-man team patrols the airfield at Tengah and alerts the control
tower on spotting any flock of birds - from pigeons to plovers - which
start warming themselves on the tarmac as the sun rises.

The airbase's biggest worry is the migratory egret that appears between
September and November because it is larger and could cause more damage
in a collision.

To keep them away, it uses a combination of methods - from keeping grass
long in some areas to poke at the long-legged birds, to firing loud
flares followed by pre- recorded bird distress calls from a hand-held
loudhailer.

About three years ago, it also tested a machine that automatically
sprays a chemical that irritates the eyes and mouths of birds.

It worked well, until the birds caught on to the times at which the
chemical was released, said Mr Thomas Fernandez, managing director of
home-grown Pestbusters and sole distributor of the German-made gadget.

The gadget was tweaked so it could be activated by SMS from the control
tower when a flock of birds were spotted on the runway. SMS is used as
other remote-control methods, such as those using radio frequencies,
could interfere with the aircraft. Eight machines now dot the airfield.

At Changi International Airport, measures include preventing birds from
feeding there.

Pesticides are used to reduce the number of insects in the grass. Also,
garbage is not allowed to be left in the open and no fruit trees are
planted.

Still, there are one or two bird strikes a month and Lt-Col Ng is not
satisfied: 'The idea is to bring it down to zero.'

Here is where the goshawks come in: It takes only one of them to clear a
large area of birds. It will be one more tool in the arsenal to keep
birds away - if it works.

Said Lt-Col Ng: 'It still needs a fair bit of fine-tuning. It's very
early days.'

DEADLY COLLISION: PREVIOUS INCIDENTS

SEPT 22, 1995: United States Air Force E-3 Airborne Warning and Control
System aircraft strikes about three dozen geese during take-off in
Alaska. The aircraft crashes in a forest about 1.6km beyond the runway,
killing all 24 crew members.

July 15, 1996: Belgian Air Force C-130 transport plane strikes a flock
of birds when approaching runway in the Netherlands and crashes, killing
34 people on board.

March 8, 2001: A duck crashes through the windscreen of a civilian Bell
206 aircraft transporting a heart patient to a hospital in Montana, in
the US. The pilot is slightly injured and the duck ends up in the
patient's lap.

Dec 6, 2001: A Boeing 737 strikes a flock of gulls on take-off from
Detroit, forcing an emergency landing. The bill to replace the engine
comes to about US$2.3 million (S$3.9 million).

Source: Bird Strike Committee USA.

Attached Photo's:

Birdpark's Fowler (left) did scare away birds at Tengah Air Base but it
lacked persistence.

Another method is to use chemical spray machines, like the one above.
Activated by SMS, it sprays a non-toxic chemical that irritates the eyes
and mouth of birds.

wildlife_control1.jpg

wildlife_control2.jpg
 

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http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg31688.html

"Airport Wildlife Control: Egrets are the biggest threat to pilots"


Monday, August 30, 2004

Egrets are the biggest threat to pilots
Singapore - The Straits Times


MIGRATORY egrets pose the biggest bird-strike threat to airports here,
because of their size.

But it is not just the winged visitors that worry pilots.

Aside from the pigeons, sparrows, swallows, mynahs and plovers, there is
also the occasional visits from wild dogs, monitor lizards, snakes and,
recently at Tengah Air Base, a wild boar as well.

To keep them off the runway, airports take many steps:

Pyrotechnics: Flares are fired that set off two loud bangs which
scare the birds away.

Bird distress calls: A hand-held loudhailer broadcasts
digitally-recorded sounds of birds in distress. There is a choice of
crow, pigeon, mynah, sparrow and osprey. The crow call is also used for
egrets. Changi Airport also uses the calls of predatory birds to scare
off visitors.

Chemical repellant: An SMS from the control tower activates a machine
that sprays a non-toxic chemical extracted from grapes known as methyl
anthranilate, that irritates the mucous membranes of the eyes and mouth
of the bird.

Grass cutting: Grass around the airfield is kept to between 15cm and
20cm for better visibility and to prevent birds from hiding in it.
Closer to the runway, it is longer, between 25cm and 30cm, as it
irritates long-legged fowl such as egrets.

Plugging holes: Holes in the ground are covered so that they do not
collect water which breed mosquitoes and earthworms that attract birds.

Birds of prey: Goshawks, a powerful and persistent hunter whose
presence will spook other birds, is being tried out at Tengah Air Base.

Food control: Changi Airport uses pesticides to cut down the number
of insects in the grass. Garbage is not left in the open and fruit trees
are not planted within the airport.

Hunter birds tackle feathered menace

BirdPark hawk shoos away birds to avoid collision with planes but it
isn't tenacious enough, so plan is to import goshawks

FOWLER the show bird took off on her maiden military flight at Tengah
Air Base in April, on a mission to scare away birds from the runway used
by fighter planes for take-offs and landings.

But the 10-year-old Harris hawk, a predatory bird from the Jurong
BirdPark, failed to live up to expectations.

Now, plans are afoot to import two goshawks from Germany - hunter birds
known for their tenacity and strength.

Not that Fowler did not scare birds away. Circling over the sprawling
airfield in Lim Chu Kang Road, she shooed away groups of crows, swifts
and swallows.

But she was not tenacious enough. Said the executive director of Jurong
BirdPark, Dr Wong Hon Mun: 'She's trained for our show. If the birds fly
away, she won't be bothered to go after them.'

Those manning the airstrip of the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF)
- like others around the world - are on a daily lookout for birds that
could collide with planes.

The feathered menace can dent an aircraft's body or be sucked into its
jet engines, forcing an emergency landing or, worse, bringing it down.

Collision with birds, as well as some deer and other wildlife, killed
more than 150 people globally and destroyed more than 140 planes between
1990 and last year, according to a United States Federal Aviation
Administration report.

US civil aviators lose an estimated US$500 million (S$861 million) a
year to bird strikes, with 5,940 reported cases last year. The US Air
Force lost more than US$50 million to 1,293 bird hits last year.

Changi and Seletar airports see one to two bird strikes in total each
month, involving small birds like swallows, mynahs and munias which do
not damage aircraft, a spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority of
Singapore told The Straits Times. However, the monthly total is 10 for
the RSAF at its four airbases in Changi, Paya Lebar, Sembawang and
Tengah.

Pilots have felt the shock of birds hitting their aircraft and
technicians have found blood stains and other remains in the jet
engines.

'The worst is some minor damage to the engine, with a nick or two on a
blade, nothing serious,' said Lieutenant-Colonel Penny Ng, the
commanding officer of Tengah Air Base's flying support squadron. 'But
everybody treats it seriously. You simply can't risk life, and the
aircraft are expensive.'

A two-man team patrols the airfield at Tengah and alerts the control
tower on spotting any flock of birds - from pigeons to plovers - which
start warming themselves on the tarmac as the sun rises.

The airbase's biggest worry is the migratory egret that appears between
September and November because it is larger and could cause more damage
in a collision.

To keep them away, it uses a combination of methods - from keeping grass
long in some areas to poke at the long-legged birds, to firing loud
flares followed by pre- recorded bird distress calls from a hand-held
loudhailer.

About three years ago, it also tested a machine that automatically
sprays a chemical that irritates the eyes and mouths of birds.

It worked well, until the birds caught on to the times at which the
chemical was released, said Mr Thomas Fernandez, managing director of
home-grown Pestbusters and sole distributor of the German-made gadget.

The gadget was tweaked so it could be activated by SMS from the control
tower when a flock of birds were spotted on the runway. SMS is used as
other remote-control methods, such as those using radio frequencies,
could interfere with the aircraft. Eight machines now dot the airfield.

At Changi International Airport, measures include preventing birds from
feeding there.

Pesticides are used to reduce the number of insects in the grass. Also,
garbage is not allowed to be left in the open and no fruit trees are
planted.

Still, there are one or two bird strikes a month and Lt-Col Ng is not
satisfied: 'The idea is to bring it down to zero.'

Here is where the goshawks come in: It takes only one of them to clear a
large area of birds. It will be one more tool in the arsenal to keep
birds away - if it works.

Said Lt-Col Ng: 'It still needs a fair bit of fine-tuning. It's very
early days.'

DEADLY COLLISION: PREVIOUS INCIDENTS

SEPT 22, 1995: United States Air Force E-3 Airborne Warning and Control
System aircraft strikes about three dozen geese during take-off in
Alaska. The aircraft crashes in a forest about 1.6km beyond the runway,
killing all 24 crew members.

July 15, 1996: Belgian Air Force C-130 transport plane strikes a flock
of birds when approaching runway in the Netherlands and crashes, killing
34 people on board.

March 8, 2001: A duck crashes through the windscreen of a civilian Bell
206 aircraft transporting a heart patient to a hospital in Montana, in
the US. The pilot is slightly injured and the duck ends up in the
patient's lap.

Dec 6, 2001: A Boeing 737 strikes a flock of gulls on take-off from
Detroit, forcing an emergency landing. The bill to replace the engine
comes to about US$2.3 million (S$3.9 million).

Source: Bird Strike Committee USA.

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Birdpark's Fowler (left) did scare away birds at Tengah Air Base but it
lacked persistence.

Another method is to use chemical spray machines, like the one above.
Activated by SMS, it sprays a non-toxic chemical that irritates the eyes
and mouth of birds.

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Strangely, how come RSAF never dare to report that they have 2 shotguns for use in their armoury when all their million dollars sophiscated systems fail to stop these flying menance. :cool:
 

hairylee

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Nope! By the time the Airbus reached Batam, it was already too high for birds to ingest into it's engine. It happened on Changi Runway for sure! When altitudes was low enough for birds. More precisely the bird was a Singaporean not Indon FT! :biggrin:

The disintegration and fall of debris will be a moment after the strike on Changi runway, even this video showed the same. In within a minute from take-off any plane heading south east (depending on wind they will instruct pilot to go either south west or north east) will be over Batam. That is where the debris shits will hit. Otherwise it would be Johore!

:biggrin:

It is a Sinkie bird. No traffic lights don't know how to stop. Indon birds like their drivers don't need traffic lights.
 

Frankiestine

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Mas Selamat bodoh, he should have just bought birds and release them at Changi runway, do the job just as effectively....:p
 

lockeliberal

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Dear Motor

I am afraid your technical analysis does not hold water. Bird Strike on an engine results in damage to the front of the engine The Fan blades disintegrate and depending on the no of fan blades that are damaged or destroyed the resulting damage to the containment case in the FRONT of the engine

A close look at the pictures will show a hole in the rear end of the engine where the turbines both low pressure and high pressure turbine or the intermediate turbine in the case of the three shaft rolls royce engine. No bird can damage anything so far back in that area. It blew a hole in the casing and in the containment shield.




Locke
 

motormafia

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Dear Motor

I am afraid your technical analysis does not hold water. Bird Strike on an engine results in damage to the front of the engine The Fan blades disintegrate and depending on the no of fan blades that are damaged or destroyed the resulting damage to the containment case in the FRONT of the engine

A close look at the pictures will show a hole in the rear end of the engine where the turbines both low pressure and high pressure turbine or the intermediate turbine in the case of the three shaft rolls royce engine. No bird can damage anything so far back in that area. It blew a hole in the casing and in the containment shield.




Locke

Turbo fan engines got many sets of blades, it is random which ones will get most damaged. The outside of engine does not really count. It is the inside. There are fixed as well as rotary blades. Depending on the size and weight and speed of ingested objects the impact and damages inside the engines are by chance. Front fan blades are larger than back sets of blades for A380 I think they are the largest. So may be a smaller SGP kuku bird did not damaged the frontal fans but impacted deeper inside with smaller set of blades. There is no fixed rule where must be the impact or where must be damaged.

Beside birds, even humans like some cases of airfield workers got sucked inside engine. Other objects also happens. Do they have Coconuts or Durians at on Changi Runways?? :eek::confused::biggrin::rolleyes:

Ask Raymond Lim Siang Keat to tell us.

May be a pack of Chicken Rice? Duck Rice? Also considered bird strike OK?
:biggrin:
 

lockeliberal

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Dear Motor

The bird is not indestructible bird. Any bird would have been chopped up by the fan blades in front. no bits would have been left to damage the rear of the engine or turbine blades where it occurred on the Quantas A380.

The front fan blades rotate at over 6000 RPMs per second. Any bird would have been minced meat.

Btw the damaged happened at 6,000 feet. WHAT FOD ? and heck any FOD would not have damaged the rear.



Thanks


Locke
 

halsey02

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Then you have to ask Yaacob Ibrahim. Why as environment minister, he keeps so many crows as pets all over Singapore? :confused: :mad:

Why you like to kancheow Abang, with difficult questions? It was the orangputih who brought in crows here from INDIA around 100 years ago, to scavenge for carrions.

Ah Bang did not keep the burongs...they couldn't control them despite keeping SINgapore clean...:rolleyes:
 

Seee3

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Dear Motor

Any bird would have been chopped up by the fan blades in front. no bits would have been left to damage the rear of the engine or turbine blades where it occurred on the Quantas A380.

Maybe birds from Sg like the people also can siam better than others, making all the way to the back blades despite the high speed. :biggrin:
 
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