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Serious Heng Swee Kiat Collapsed During Cabinet Meeting! Kena Stroke!

Seee3

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you mean you think you taking Vitamin C everyday partly cause your stroke?!
I am not sure about that. But I was taking vitamin C very regularly then. After that, I did a Google search and found an article that said excessive C can cause hardening of blood vessel. Just my guess. May be wrong.
 

KuanTi01

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If LTK is the one who kana stroke, I wonder if the 3 doctors will help or all the PAP MPs would start celebrating.
Btw, priority all the way, no need to queue or wait at corridor.

Imho, I have faith that as doctors, they will also rush to his aid; putting aside party affiliations. I also do not believe PAP MPs have to stoop so low. Having someone collapsed in front of you is not a laughing matter. Karma will come sooner rather than later.
 

mamadrama

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Imho, I have faith that as doctors, they will also rush to his aid; putting aside party affiliations. I also do not believe PAP MPs have to stoop so low. Having someone collapsed in front of you is not a laughing matter. Karma will come sooner rather than later.

I fully agree. As human beings I believe we should put any and all kinds of disagreements aside to help a fellow human being in need. It is the correct and decent thing to do unless for some reason you hate the person intensely.

I sort of remember some years back when Sam posed a question here about whether he should reveal clinton666's details to some member of the public who wanted to take legal action against him, but everone on this forum answered in the negative whether we liked him or not.

Some things we should do whether we like it or not , some things we should not do. We should be guided by our conscience, decency and common sense.
 

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I am addicted to chia seeds, taking a teaspoon nearly every day. Read before some article saying it will thin the blood. Hope it will not cause any health problem. But thin blood is dangerous?
Got the same problem years ago. Doc said its caused by weakening of blood vessels. They want to insert a scope to my brain to look for other probable weakened vessels. I said no thank you because if it is a birth defect, there should be many more to burst. I am not going to let them go wondering in my brain with a scope as any mistake could mean a permanent burden to my family.

However, there must be some change in my life style that hastened and triggered the bursting. I must avoid those activities so that hopefully the setting of the time bomb can be delayed.

i noted that prior to the burst I was having little sleep. I was not stressed but definitely not having enough rest. I was also taking vitamin C regularly to avoid flu and sore throat. The worse was a certain kind of Chinese herb which I was taking regularly to improve blood flow, which I suspect actually thinned the blood.

Well just to share my view. Be careful of overdose in anything.
 

scroobal

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I am reliably told that aneurysm is usually isolated and if surgically fixed, it should be the end. Very rarely is there another one. So you should not worry. This is very unlike blocked arteries.

I am not sure about that. But I was taking vitamin C very regularly then. After that, I did a Google search and found an article that said excessive C can cause hardening of blood vessel. Just my guess. May be wrong.
 

chongpangchixwings

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I am addicted to chia seeds, taking a teaspoon nearly every day. Read before some article saying it will thin the blood. Hope it will not cause any health problem. But thin blood is dangerous?

Thinning of the blood may cause blood clotting deficiencies. So just say if you go for major surgery you may need lots of blood prior to and during the surgery to replace lost blood because of the inability of the blood to thicken and clot. This can cause you to bleed to death. Some people have this deficiency congenitally.
 

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What causes an aneurysm to bleed?

We usually don’t know why an aneurysm bleeds or exactly when it will bleed. We do know what increases the chance for bleeding:

High blood pressure is the leading cause of subarachnoid hemorrhage. Heavy lifting or straining can cause pressure to rise in the brain and may lead to an aneurysm rupture.
Strong emotions, such as being upset or angry, can raise blood pressure and can subsequently cause aneurysms to rupture.
Blood “thinners” (such as warfarin), some medications and prescription drugs (including diet pills that act as stimulants such as ephedrine and amphetamines), and harmful drugs like cocaine can cause aneurysms to rupture and bleed.
What are the chances that an unruptured aneurysm may bleed?

Many factors determine whether an aneurysm is likely to bleed. These include the size, shape and location of the aneurysm and symptoms that it causes. Smaller aneurysms that are uniform in size may be less likely to bleed than larger, irregularly shaped ones. Once an aneurysm has bled, there’s a very high chance of re-bleeding. That’s why we recommend treatment as soon as possible.

What happens if an aneurysm bleeds?

If an aneurysm ruptures, it leaks blood into the space around the brain. This is called a “subarachnoid hemorrhage.” Depending on the amount of blood, it can produce:

a sudden severe headache that can last from several hours to days
nausea and vomiting
drowsiness and/or coma
The hemorrhage may also damage the brain directly, usually from bleeding into the brain itself. This is called a “hemorrhagic stroke.” This can lead to:

weakness or paralysis of an arm or leg
trouble speaking or understanding language
vision problems
seizures
What is the usual damage to the brain after an aneurysm bleeds?


Once an aneurysm bleeds, the chance of death is 30 to 40 percent and the chance of moderate to severe brain damage is 20 to 35 percent, even if the aneurysm is treated. Fifteen to 30 percent of patients have only mild difficulties or almost none. If the aneurysm isn’t treated quickly enough, another bleed may occur from the already ruptured aneurysm.

In 15 to 20 percent of patients, vasospasm (irritation by the leaked blood causing narrowing of the blood vessels) may occur. This can lead to further brain damage. Other problems may include hydrocephalus (enlargement of the spaces within the brain that produce cerebrospinal fluid), difficulty breathing that requires a mechanical ventilator, and infection. Heart and lung problems may result due to extensive brain damage that can affect the body’s normal functions.

Why is the damage so extensive after bleeding?

After blood enters the brain and the space around it, direct damage to the brain tissue and brain function results. The amount of damage is usually related to the amount of blood. Damage is due to the increased pressure and swelling from bleeding directly into the brain tissue, or from local cellular damage to brain tissue from irritation of blood in the space between the brain and the skull.

Blood can also irritate and damage the normal blood vessels and cause vasospasm (constriction). This can interrupt normal blood flow to the healthy brain tissue and can cause even more brain damage. This is called an “ischemic stroke.”

Will treating a ruptured aneurysm reverse or improve brain damage?

Once an aneurysm bleeds and brain damage occurs, treating the aneurysm will not reverse the damage. Treatment helps prevent more bleeding, which can cause more damage to the brain and, consequently, to the body’s functions. If bleeding has already caused brain damage, patients may benefit from rehabilitation therapy after the aneurysm has been treated.

How is a treatment method for an aneurysm chosen?

Each patient and each aneurysm is different. Doctors must evaluate the risk factors that favor treatment vs. non-treatment and decide which technique may be best.

It’s important to consult with experts in this field. This should include a discussion with a cerebrovascular neurosurgeon who specializes in surgically clipping aneurysms, a neurosurgeon with endovascular expertise and training, a neurointerventionalist (a neurologist with endovascular training) or a neuroradiologist who specializes in the less invasive treatment of cerebral aneurysms by coiling. These types of medical specialists have different expertise and training backgrounds. We recommend you consult with several types of physicians.

How should an aneurysm be treated?

The best treatment depends on many things, including whether the aneurysm has ruptured or not. A ruptured aneurysm usually requires treatment right away, because the re-bleeding rate remains quite high. However, the treatment time and options for treatment depend on the size, location and shape of the aneurysm, as well as the patient’s overall medical condition. If an aneurysm hasn’t ruptured, the treatment decision depends on its size, location and shape, and the patient’s symptoms. Each factor is important and requires consultation with a neurosurgeon and a neurointerventionalist or a neuroradiologist who has special skills and training in treating these types of aneurysms.
 

Debonerman

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And just comfort for you guys amid this tragedy, I want to share with you I have a pal who collapsed inexplicably twice just like our dear Mr Heng. Conveyed to hospital, after numerous tests, doctors could not find a damn thing wrong with him. Our time here on Earth is written. Just live life to the max. When it's time to go, you go. Maybe it's also time for us old geezers to take time to look at the stars, look back at life and ask ourselves have we been good.
 

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steffychun

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If it was a WP member who collapsed, would the 3 doctors in Cabinet have reacted so fast? Would they have called an ambulance?
 

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I fully agree. As human beings I believe we should put any and all kinds of disagreements aside to help a fellow human being in need. It is the correct and decent thing to do unless for some reason you hate the person intensely.

I sort of remember some years back when Sam posed a question here about whether he should reveal clinton666's details to some member of the public who wanted to take legal action against him, but everone on this forum answered in the negative whether we liked him or not.

Some things we should do whether we like it or not , some things we should not do. We should be guided by our conscience, decency and common sense.

absolutely agree and i am with you on this. not aware of clinton666's case though.
 

GoldenDragon

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And just comfort for you guys amid this tragedy, I want to share with you I have a pal who collapsed inexplicably twice just like our dear Mr Heng. Conveyed to hospital, after numerous tests, doctors could not find a damn thing wrong with him. Our time here on Earth is written. Just live life to the max. When it's time to go, you go. Maybe it's also time for us old geezers to take time to look at the stars, look back at life and ask ourselves have we been good.

agree. that is why i am now a volunteer at a dog shelter. dogs are the best! i drive them around, walk them, bathe them etc. Plus, i get to meet several syts too.
 

steffychun

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The Doctors in Cabinet--Ng, Bala (who is the third?)..all haven't practised medicine for ages. They could have worsen his condition while "trying to revive him."
 

Wunderfool

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The quick reaction from the 3 doctors to help Heng Swee Keat could probably have saved his life and limit the damage as a result.

The three should be commended.
 

GoldenDragon

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The Doctors in Cabinet--Ng, Bala (who is the third?)..all haven't practised medicine for ages. They could have worsen his condition while "trying to revive him."

once you learn how to swim, drive and cycle, not possible to forget these skills. it wasn't anything other than to revive HSK. a competent first aider would have accomplished that. what more a doctor.
 

Narong Wongwan

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once you learn how to swim, drive and cycle, not possible to forget these skills. it wasn't anything other than to revive HSK. a competent first aider would have accomplished that. what more a doctor.

Yes but those while shit scums might purposely not render help so as to eliminate a strong colleague/competitor
 
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