Having an Honest Debate - PAP Style

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Dear Mr Gangasudhan,
You have posted a picture of me together with a quote “Gang rape, after all, is democracy in action”, which you have attributed to me. This is a statement by Terry Goodkind, and not me. Your post is therefore mischievous and highly defamatory of me, and calculated to embarrass me and cause me damage. I therefore demand that you remove your post immediately, failing which I will have no option but to take the appropriate legal action against you. All my rights are reserved.
Thank you.
Zainudin Nordin

Dear sir, I am puzzled as to why you might feel embarrassed by the combination of your image and a reproduction of what you posted publically on your Facebook page. But more importantly, as a voting member of the public, I am very disturbed by what seems to be your endorsement of this opinion that democracy can be explained away using a heinous crime such as gang rape.
Generally, I do not bother with politicians’ Facebook pages but when I chanced upon a Facebook posting elsewhere on Wednesday morning (https://www.facebook.com/sonofadud/posts/505031336210687) that described the post you had made regarding democracy, I was shocked – to say the least. I thus reproduced the statement attributed to you together with your picture to ask my friends why a politician receiving $192,000 of taxpayer dollars would even think to say such a thing. The picture is to identify the person who said it and the quote is a verbatim reproduction, thus I do not see what there is to be embarrassed about nor how could this be interpreted as mischievous intent. In fact, this was merely an act of free speech in posing a legitimate question to my friends – how could a highly-paid elected official who has taken office to represent the people through a democratic process imply that the very same process was akin to gang rape?

Subsequently, through the responses from my friends, I was able to find a screen-capture of the posting as it appeared on your Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=523797831010442) and noticed that you had actually reproduced a quote from someone else and not directly made the statement yourself, thus I added the relevant information to reflect this new information on Wednesday night (see screen-capture below).

Looking at the quotation you reproduced on your Facebook page in full though, I am no more reassured by your position on the issue of democracy. The statement by Terry Goodkind suggests that the rights of the individual should not be infringed in the name of democracy, so are you saying that the Singapore government – a democratically elected institution - does not recognise the rights of the individual?
At best, the reproduction of Terry Goodkind’s statement demonstrates poor taste in discussing the concept of democracy – not to mention makes light of the very serious crime of rape (what more, with the world reeling from the news of the many brutal rape cases in India). As an ethnic Indian, I am actually offended at the insinuation that I would use the issue of gang rape to be “mischievous” in any way.
I am also disappointed that as an elected member of parliament who purports to represent the interests of your constituents, you have taken issue with a meme meant to invite discussion – i.e. instead of engaging in discussion and clarifying your position, you have attempted to remove the discussion altogether. This is not at all what I would expect from an elected representative of the people and I have somewhat lost faith in your ability to represent the best interests of the community of Singaporeans you serve.
I therefore hope that you will use this opportunity to engage in discussion and reassure me, a citizen of Singapore, rather than continue with what appears to be an exercise to silence me, thank you. In the meanwhile, I will share this exchange with my friends through my personal blog so that others can better understand the context of the meme I created as well as your thoughts on the matter, take care.
Ganga
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Dear Mr Gangasudhan,
It is clear from your initial posting that it was your intention to ridicule me, and not to debate issues. To do that, you deliberately and mischievously attributed Terry Goodkind’s quote to me and even extracted, without context, part of that quote. Your motives were plain and your response, contrived. You had no choice but to correct this egregious error, but I note there is no hint of an apology from you.
I think it is important to have open, honest debates on issues of the day. It is responses such as yours which in fact stifle honest debate and discourage people from sharing their views.
Thank you.
Zainudin Nordin
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Having honest debate PAP style?

BUT THAT IS NOT PAP STYLE AT ALL.

PAP NEVER EVER HAD ANY FUCKING HONEST DEBATES OR WILL HAVE ANY FUCKING HONEST DEBATES

HOW CAN THE PAP BE HONEST WHEN IT IS THEIR STYLE AND ONLY STYLE TO LIE AND LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH ALL THE TIME.
 
This is our MP, FAS Chief, Mayor and a Malay Community Leader and now chasing a mama who has thrown down the gauntlet. His comprehension skill is also fucked up. The blogger was not apologising or even hinting of an apology and this clown thinks there should be an apology somewhere in the response. He does not even realise that he is taking him on.

If the blogger was a Pre-U kid, I am sure, the pressure will be applied to the Principal, the school and the parents and they will force the kid to turn at the MP's (oops Mayor's office) to render a heartfelt organisation and the whole things will be publicised.

Now that this guy is an adult, they probably bring out Davinder and to save cost and time, the blogger will withdraw and do the usual.

May explain why the talks with Fandi failed as he could not comprehend Fandi's demand.
 
This is our MP, FAS Chief, Mayor and a Malay Community Leader

Just a moment.

Whaddumean Malay Community leader?

Did the Malays elect him as a fucking leader?

Or is he APPOINTED as a fucking leader.

Thereby displacing true leaders because he was somehow fucking appointed.

Or rammed down the throats of our poor Malay community


CAN THE MALAYS BE PROUD OF THAT ARSEHOLE AS THEIR FUCKING COMMUNITY LEADER?
OR THE MALAYS MALU LIKE CRAZY FOR HAVING THAT ARSEHOLE AS THEIR FUCKING COMMUNITY LEADER
NOT ELECTED BY APPOINTED OVER PEOPLE THAT ARE TRUE LEADERS.

MY SYMPATHIES FOR THE MALAYS
FOR HAVING SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE HIM AS A FUCKING COMMUNITY LEADER
 
This is our MP, FAS Chief, Mayor and a Malay Community Leader and now chasing a mama who has thrown down the gauntlet. His comprehension skill is also fucked up. The blogger was not apologising or even hinting of an apology and this clown thinks there should be an apology somewhere in the response. He does not even realise that he is taking him on.

If the blogger was a Pre-U kid, I am sure, the pressure will be applied to the Principal, the school and the parents and they will force the kid to turn at the MP's (oops Mayor's office) to render a heartfelt organisation and the whole things will be publicised.
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Now that this guy is an adult, they probably bring out Davinder and to save cost and time, the blogger will withdraw and do the usual.

May explain why the talks with Fandi failed as he could not comprehend Fandi's demand.

Leegime dogs only understand and respect one kind of response. It is time to give it to all of them including LKY.
 
After the 1991 confrontation by AMP with the Govt and the rejection of the then PAP MPs, both sides came to an agreement. Since then all Malay PAP MPs must be either recommended or agreed by both parties. They are the only ones with this arrangement. They are therefore indeed a representative of their community. Since then you will seldom come across criticism of any Malay MPs by the Malays.


Just a moment.

Whaddumean Malay Community leader?

MY SYMPATHIES FOR THE MALAYS
FOR HAVING SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE HIM AS A FUCKING COMMUNITY LEADER
 
Poetic justice would be when this vile mat goes on overseas holiday with his family..... his wife and the family womenfolk kena gangbang by local thugs....
 
Kudos to Ganga for not cowering to this skunk's intimidation. Threat of defamation suits by skunks in white is no longer a strong silencing tool for them.
 
After the 1991 confrontation by AMP with the Govt and the rejection of the then PAP MPs, both sides came to an agreement. Since then all Malay PAP MPs must be either recommended or agreed by both parties. They are the only ones with this arrangement. They are therefore indeed a representative of their community. Since then you will seldom come across criticism of any Malay MPs by the Malays.

FUCK.

That may be what is said.

It is like RC cartel.

No body elect those fucking RC leaders either.

Those cockroaches appoint cockroaches to be RC leaders

NO FUCKING ELECTIONS AT ALL

WHAT ABOUT CHINESE COMMUNITY LEADERS?

ALL APPOINTED BY COCKROACHES IN WHITE

WHAT ABOUT TAOIST ASSOCIATIONS?

THEY GOT RID OF THE OLD LEADER AND APPOINT A FUCKING NOBODY IN TAOISM BUT IN FUCKING PAP TO BE THE TAOIST HEAD

I THINK MALAYS RATHER GO EAT PORK THAN TO ACCEPT THAT ARSEHOLE WHO BELIEVE IN GANG RAPING BECAUSE HE IS PART OF THE COCKROACHES IN WHITE GANG RAPING SINKIES AND PROF TEY
 
PAP ALWAYS have honest debate. Its the Opposition Who fabricate lies and practises DISHONESTY.
 
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