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特朗普:可能的话 我会说“让伊朗再次伟大”

2019年06月23日 11:16 观察者网



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特朗普:可能的话,我会说“让伊朗再次伟大”


【特朗普:可能的话,我会说“让伊朗再次伟大”】特朗普:“以前大家都叫我战争狂,现在人人叫我和平鸽…但我认为我都不是,我是个有常识的人。”“如果伊朗想成为一个繁荣富裕的国家,我会说‘让伊朗再次伟大’”。


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特朗普:如果伊朗放弃核武器 我将成为它最好的朋友

特朗普:如果伊朗放弃核武器 我将成为它最好的朋友



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原标题:特朗普:我不是战争贩子,也不是鸽派,我将成为伊朗最好的朋友
[文/观察者网 王慧]美国RQ-4“全球鹰”无人侦察机被伊朗击落后,华盛顿与德黑兰紧张关系持续升级,氛围剑拔弩张。
就在伊朗作出“美国胆敢朝伊朗开一枪,就把美国及其盟友的利益夷为平地”的强硬表态之际,特朗普22日表示,对伊采取军事行动仍是选项之一,美国“不会容许伊朗拥有一枚核武器”。
“如果伊朗领导人放弃核武计划,他们拥有一个富饶的国家,我会成为他们最好的朋友,”特朗普说,他将继续追加对伊朗的制裁,下周一生效。
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特朗普周六在白宫接受采访 视频截图
“感谢伊朗没击落载有30多人的美军飞机”
美联社23日报道称,周六一早,特朗普在白宫接受记者采访时发表了上述讲话。随后,他很快离开华盛顿前往马里兰州的总统度假地戴维营,继续讨论伊朗问题。
特朗普特别感谢伊朗革命卫队,没有选择击落一架载有30多人的美军巡逻机。
“你看到了吗,昨天有一架载有38人的飞机,”特朗普说,“我认为这是个大事,这架飞机出现在他们(伊朗)的视线内,但他们没有击落它。”
“我认为他们这么做是非常明智的,我们非常感谢他们没击落飞机。”特朗普补充道。
美军无人机被击落后,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空中部队哈吉扎德准将21日称,伊军本来还可以瞄准这架载人的巡逻机,但他们没有这样做。
特朗普还就美国空袭可能造成的预计伤亡 (五角大楼预测伤亡人数为150人)如何影响他的决定给出了更多细节。
他说,除非确实有必要,否则自己不想杀死150个伊朗人。“我来自纽约,在纽约有很多伊朗人,他们都很棒,我也有很多伊朗朋友。他们是非常聪明,非常有雄心,而且是非常优秀的人。”
此前,特朗普在21日晚间发推特解释称,自己在空袭前10分钟取消命令,因为将军说“打击3个地点会死150人”,特朗普认为“这和击落一架无人机相比,不成比例(not proportionate)”。
“我既不是战争贩子,也不是鸽派”
特朗普强调,自己做出的(取消对伊朗空袭)决定表明,他没有被他周围的鹰派人物左右,包括自己的国家安全事务助理博尔顿。
“我有博尔顿,我可以明确说他是个鹰派,我也有其他持反对意见的人,”特朗普说,他在听取了两方面意见后,最终自己做出决定。
“最后是我做出的决定,唯一重要的是我。”
“以前所有人都说我是战争贩子,现在他们说我是鸽派。我认为,我哪个都不是。我是个有常识的人,我们国家需要的就是常识。”特朗普说。
英国《卫报》援引加拿大前外交官、渥太华大学助理教授托马斯•朱诺(Thomas Juneau)分析称,“特朗普是出了名的善变,但他始终坚持的一点是,他不想把美国拖入一场新的战争。”
“放弃核武计划,可以让伊朗再次伟大”
尽管制止了一场会造成伤亡的军事行动,特朗普仍坚定地宣布要对伊朗进行制裁。他强调制裁是不想让伊朗继续发展核武,“与石油无关”。如果伊朗放弃自己的核武计划,可以“让伊朗再次伟大”。
“如果伊朗想再次成为一个富有的国家,一个繁荣的国家,我们也可以说‘让伊朗再次伟大’,那么他们想在五六年的时间里拥有核武器,想都别想,”特朗普说,“我太懂核武了,我跟你说吧,他们就不会有核武。”
如果他们能放弃,那“他们将拥有一个富裕的国家,他们将会非常幸福,而我将成为他们最好的朋友。”“我希望这些能实现,但可能不会。”
当天下午,特朗普发推宣布,新一轮对伊制裁下周一生效。
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“伊朗不能拥有核武器!在奥巴马糟糕的计划下,伊朗在短短数年内就会走上发展核武器的道路,而现有的核查是不可接受的。周一,我们将对伊朗实施更多重大制裁。我期待着解除制裁的那一天,伊朗会再次成为一个有生产力和繁荣的国家——越早越好!”
特朗普并未详述具体制裁内容。
周四晚间,《华盛顿邮报》、《纽约时报》爆料称,为报复美国无人机被击落,特朗普下令于伊朗当地时间周五黎明时分发动空袭,但在行动开始前数小时取消。
周五一大早,特朗普连发四推,亲自下场说明。他承认当晚原计划对三处伊朗目标发动空袭,但在行动开始前10分钟取消命令。
周六宣布制裁后,特朗普再发一推,“我从来没有‘撤回’对伊朗的打击,那是人们不准确的报道。我只是在那个时刻停止了将要对伊朗的打击行动!”
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推文一出,网友纷纷开始吐槽,“这有啥不一样吗?”
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“我没有如某些人所说的那样在红灯前停下来,我只是直到绿灯才踩油门。”
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就在特朗普就伊朗问题不断表态之际,伊朗官方通讯社报道称,伊朗于周六召见了阿联酋驻德黑兰高级特使,发出“强烈抗议”。伊朗称,阿联酋允许美国利用其军事基地发射进入伊朗领空的无人机,这一行为伊朗不能容忍,这是在为侵犯伊朗领土的外国势力提供便利。

对于无人机被击落的位置,美伊双方一致各执一词。美方称,其RQ-4“全球鹰”无人机是在霍尔木兹海峡的国际水域上空被击落。而伊朗表示,被击落飞机出现在其领空内。
6月22日伊朗半官方性质的塔斯尼姆社称,伊朗军方高级发言人谢卡尔钦(Abolfazl Shekarchi)准将当天向美国发出警告,“如果敌人朝伊朗开一枪,伊朗将会还击十枪并使其付出沉重代价。”
谢卡尔钦指出,“这个伊斯兰共和国从来没有、也永远不会寻求任何战争。但伊朗的敌人,尤其是美国及其盟友所犯的任何错误,都无异于向一个火药桶开火,这将把美国及其盟友的利益夷为平地。”
在此背景下,英国中东事务大臣安德鲁•默里森(Andrew Murrison)宣布23日访问伊朗,并与伊朗高层举行会谈。英国外交部在一份声明中称,“当前地区紧张局势加剧,伊核协议的未来正处于关键时刻,此次访问是进一步开放、坦率和建设性接触伊朗的一个机会。”


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美到底打不打伊朗?特朗普更享受叫停空袭的“权威”

2019年06月23日 10:20 观察者网



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原标题:观察者网一周军评:打不打伊朗,哪个体现特朗普的“权威”?
[文/ 观察者网专栏作者 施洋]本周四,伊朗革命卫队宣称,一架美国海军的MQ-4C“特里顿”高空无人侦察机在伊朗南部海域上空被其发射的国产地空导弹击落。美国中央司令部虽然在第一时间对此予以否认,但随后就承认了这次的战损。在此之后,伊朗革命卫队还展示了其打捞上来的无人机残骸,将这一次战果进一步坐实。
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伊朗方面此次的证据过硬,比起以往法尔斯通讯社“大嘴一张”的表现好得多
MQ-4C“特里顿”高空无人侦察机是RQ-4“全球鹰”无人侦察机系列中专用于美国海军的型号,其整体飞行性能与“全球鹰”基本相同,主要的区别在于机载侦察设备有所差异。在目前美军投入量产的无人机中,“全球鹰”系列是尺寸最大、飞行高度最高、结构最复杂、造价也最昂贵的一款。
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正是因为其“战略无人侦察机”的地位,才引发此次“战略”级别的区域危机
作为美军最大的长航时无人侦察机,“全球鹰”在过去的十几年中经常对包括中国在内的世界各地进行侦察。在这些行动中,该机通常都在接近18000米的最大飞行高度行动,这一高度比大多数国家战机的正常升限都高,因此在东海上空跟踪“全球鹰”的飞行任务中,解放军战机一般都只能以仰视的姿态对其进行持续跟踪。
不过对于防空导弹而言,由于“全球鹰”的飞行速度只有600公里/时左右,高空飞行的姿态变化也比较迟钝,该机也没有进行诸如RQ-170一样的全面化隐身设计,因此只要能克服电子干扰并将“全球鹰”纳入射击包线,其攻击难度反而不是很大。
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解放军在跟踪“全球鹰”的时候只能在其下方的航线进行
对于美军而言,很多时候“全球鹰”的使用方式和有人操作的U-2系列高空侦察机颇为相似。虽然U-2高空侦察机在问世之初是以其超过2万米的最大升限来规避当时的歼击机和高射炮火力,不过S-75防空导弹在1960年把鲍尔斯驾驶的U-2打下来之后,美军在使用U-2进行对苏侦察时就有了颇多收敛;后来国民党反动派持续使用U-2对中国大陆进行侦察,主要也是仗着当时解放军只有4套引进的S-75防空导弹(其中1套还要用于测绘仿制),无法覆盖东南沿海。
当我军在拦截U-2上连战连捷,且国内研仿的红旗-1和红旗-2也开始批量装备之后,这种不自量力的入境侦察行动就彻底停止了。随后美军对U-2系列的使用也转向在领空范围之外,使用斜视照相机或者机载电子设备进行侦察。
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归根到底,U-2的侦察是被越来越多的解放军地空导弹部队“吓停”的
“全球鹰”作为一款高空无人侦察机,因为同样的原因,其在高威胁区域的活动也不会直接入侵对方的领空,而以各种斜向侦察设备执行侦察任务。为了尽可能增大侦察范围,靠近边境的“擦边球”自然不可避免,这无疑增加了侦察机本身的危险性,特别当伊朗人突然“打破默契”真枪实弹发起攻击的时候,留给美军无人侦察机的时间和操作空间是相当有限的。
当美国国防部都有人对伊朗击落“全球鹰”表示惊讶的时候,有理由相信美军不仅对伊朗的防空导弹能力毫无警惕,对于此次侦察飞行的航线设定和掩护也是颇为托大。
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无论是美国的说法还是伊朗的说法,“全球鹰”的擦边球飞行是显然的
美国人的自信多少来说有些道理,伊朗虽然拥有一大堆来自各方的防空导弹系统,但是如果以一个完整的国家级防空体系的角度来看,确实可以用一个“乱”字来形容。
一方面,伊朗从两伊战争时期开始就从多个来源引进和试图自制包括S-75(自制的Sayyad-1防空导弹)、S-200、2K12 “立方体”等苏制防空导弹,并在最近获得了俄制S-300系列远程防空导弹;另一方面,伊朗还尽力保存和维持着1979年伊斯兰革命以前从西方国家获得的不少防空导弹,包括 “霍克”、“标准”、“轻剑”等,并通过仿制自制了“霍克”和“响尾蛇”低空导弹;此外,伊朗还在研制各种型号的防空导弹,这几年来露面的诸如Sayyad-2/3、Bavar-373远程防空导弹以及本次据称击落“全球鹰”的Raad-1/2 中程防空导弹,都是这几年来伊朗公开的本国防空导弹型号。
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从综合性能来看,S-300毫无疑问是伊朗目前最先进的防空导弹
由于伊朗在S-300之前并未获得特别先进的防空导弹系统,其本国科研实力也相对有限,因此虽然其新研制的导弹系统在“颜值”上都看起来挺先进的,但外界并不看好这些导弹的真实性能。
之前的Sayyad-2/3就被外界认为是“使用‘标准’导弹技术制造的外形像‘爱国者’的防空导弹”,Bavar-373则被看做是“使用美俄旧式导弹技术研制的长得像S-300但不如S-300的防空导弹”,至于此次伊朗宣称击落“全球鹰”的Raad系列地空导弹,则被外界认为是“使用‘标准’导弹技术制造的外形像‘山毛榉’的防空导弹”……
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Sayyad-2导弹长得像“标准”,发射车则像“爱国者”
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Bavar-373则在方方面面都和S-300如出一辙
2017年9月的时候,伊朗就曾向外界展示过本国的Negah防空指挥系统,根据伊朗当时公布的情况看,这套系统主要的任务就是指挥伊朗面向波斯湾、霍尔木兹海峡和阿曼湾方向的南部防空力量。伊朗对于这套系统构建中的外部技术支援也并不讳言。
伊朗防空部队司令当时就表示,新的防空指挥控制系统的核心是中国电科集团的JY-10防空指挥控制系统。后者具备“高度机动性、高可靠性、以及高度自动化”的特点,可以处理800公里内雷达发来的数据,同时接收和处理100条航迹,并且可以使用来自不同型号和制式的雷达提供信息。
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伊朗方面公布的防空指挥系统画面里,能够看到其处理的信息主要是伊朗沿海地区
从这个角度来看,伊朗的防空系统虽然在基础条件上并不理想,但通过引进技术和本国技术的整合以及防空指挥系统的构建,已经初步形成了一套本国的防空作战系统。加上伊朗还有着相对丰富与西方国家无人机对抗的经验,甚至还曾经通过干扰手段俘获过美制无人侦察机,尽管这样的防空系统未必能够有效抗击美国有组织的大规模全面空袭行动,但对像攻击诸如“全球鹰”这样缺少掩护且反应“迟钝”的无人机显然已经够用了。
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伊朗此次的拦截行动算是一个很好的范例
尽管美国方面辩称飞机当时正处于“国际水域”上空,但这架飞机正在进行的毫无疑问是对伊朗的侦察行动,考虑到美伊局势在最近几个月里不断升级,包括美国总统特朗普在内的政府高官也对伊朗连放狠话,伊朗方面承受的压力巨大,对于战略侦察这样显然具有针对性的行动采取反制,从伊朗自身的角度来看,显然也是一种不算离谱的处置手段。
当然伊朗虽然看起来是“悍然动武”,但其实在执行这次作战中也是粗中有细。按照伊朗方面的说法,伊军在击落“全球鹰”无人机的同时,还有一架P-8A侦察机也在伊朗防空导弹的打击范围内,但伊朗最终没有攻击这架P-8A,而是选择了攻击无人驾驶的“全球鹰”,毕竟让美国人损失上亿美元和让十多名美国人一起殒命相比,后者给伊朗可能带来的风险还是太高了。
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P-8A机上定员9人,但实际使用中经常会有额外人员参与行动
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Raad系列防空导弹也是一副“山毛榉”导弹劣质仿品的感觉
不过伊朗对于本国防空系统的情况也并非毫不知晓,尤其是本国这种东西方武器加自研武器兼而有之,老中青三代齐聚一堂的情况也是心知肚明。因此近几年来,伊朗一直在寻求获得高性能的防空指挥控制系统,将本国这些来源、技术体制、性能以及服役年限差异巨大的防空导弹整合成一个整体。这对于伊朗本国的技术能力而言不吝是个挑战,不过得益于外国技术的帮助,伊朗人已经初步达到了这一目标。
从特朗普发布的推特中,我们已经获知,美国军方曾经在“全球鹰”被击落后制定并向总统提交了对伊朗发起一轮军事打击的方案。虽然美军向中东地区的增兵规模还远没有到对伊朗发起全面战争的程度,但美国海军在海湾地区保持存在的航母打击大队以及“宙斯盾”舰,加上美国空军在卡塔尔乌代德空军基地部署的B-52战略轰炸机,已经足够组织起上百枚“战斧”巡航导弹以及相当数量的战机,对伊朗发动一次传统的外科手术式打击,要么摧毁或削弱伊朗的防空系统,要么对已经被美国列为恐怖组织的伊朗革命卫队的一些设施进行打击。
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战略轰炸机和航母编队依然是判断美国军事准备的关键因素
不过特朗普自称在袭击发起前“叫停”了这次可能造成150人死伤的行动,并且同时用一连串的“mistake”将这次击落“全球鹰”的事件淡化为伊朗方面某个军官的错误决策而非整个伊朗的国家意志——美国总统在本国利益明显受损的情况下,如此卖力地替伊朗这样一个怎么看也不算友好的国家洗地,当然不会因为他色厉内荏,也不会是他心系伊朗人民不忍生灵涂炭,而更可能因为在特朗普本人的判断中,升级海湾地区的紧张局势和对伊朗进行军事打击,在目前的情势之下并非美国要优先执行的事情。
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特朗普在关键时刻的判断让这次危机没有升级
相比之下,反倒是美国军方在此次事件中的举动更耐人寻味。五角大楼在没有做好对伊朗发起全面战争的情况下,迅速制定了一个基于现有力量对伊朗进行打击的方案,并且差一点儿将其付诸实施,这样的军事行动显然没有深入考虑打击带来的政治后果,甚至未必考虑了军事行动后续要如何展开,更多是一种在互联网时代以行动本身为意义的“泄愤”式打击。
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美军当时空袭叙利亚也是,没头没尾地发射了一轮导弹,对战局几乎没有影响
如果我们回首本世纪初美国发起的军事行动,无论是作为9·11事件后续反应的阿富汗战争,还是以推翻萨达姆政权为目标的伊拉克战争,都仍然属于传统的“谋定而后动”的大规模战争。这些战争有着明确的目的,有着相对严谨的战争规划,并且按照时局的发展不断调整和推进占据的发展;而如今随着精确打击武器的推广和外科手术式打击行动的拓展,“为轰炸而轰炸”的军事打击行动在近年的美军行动中越来越常见,这类袭击可能因为一件事件而起,在袭击之后也没有任何后续,袭击本身不解决任何问题,也不会改变地区局势,只反映了当代国际政治中各国对于表态的迫切程度。
即使不对伊朗发动军事袭击,特朗普也能够在在伊朗问题上立于不败之地,毕竟他追求的是伊朗不得拥有核武器,而伊朗的核计划从一开始到现在,别说造出核武器了,甚至距离制造出武器级浓缩铀都还有很大的差距。在这样的情况下,比起对伊朗进行军事打击,很多事情(比如下周在日本举行的G20首脑峰会)显然要更加重要。
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毕竟G20峰会上,美国人还要就贸易战做一做文章
不过对于美国而言,这毫无疑问又会给国际上带来一个非常糟糕的示范:伊朗当着美国的面将一架美军无人机给击落了,美军此前还一直在营造在伊朗周边“大军压境”的气氛,结果总统竟然亲自取消了军方已经制定的军事行动,公开原因还是因为无人机损失和“杀死150人”不成比例……这无异于向全世界颁布了对美军无人载具进行攻击的“许可证”。按照这样的思路推演下去,美国方面对于伊朗也许多少还要有些报复措施用来挽回尊严。
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美军对伊朗发起的网络袭击也许就算其中之一吧
不得不承认,美国和伊朗最近的这轮威胁与博弈,一直升级到今天,特别是在美国坚定指责伊朗是阿曼湾油船遇袭事件“幕后黑手”之后,伊朗击落美军无人机所引发的美方反应多少有些出人意料。也许正如美国媒体所说,比起空袭伊朗,特朗普也许更享受发动与叫停空袭的“权威”,而为了这份“享受”,这位史无前例的美国总统会将海湾局势带向何方,也许只有时间能够告诉我们了。

Does the United States fight Iran? Trump enjoys the "authority" of stopping air strikes.


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Original title: Observer Network Weekly Military Review: Do not fight Iran, which reflects Trump's "authority"?

[Text / Observer Network columnist Shi Yang] On Thursday, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards claimed that a US Navy's MQ-4C "Triton" high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft was launched by its ground-based airspace over the southern Iranian waters. The missile was shot down. Although the US Central Command denied this in the first place, it later acknowledged the damage. After that, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards also demonstrated the wreckage of the drones that they had salvaged, and further stabilized this time.
The Iranian side’s evidence is very good. It’s much better than the Fars News Agency’s “big mouth”. The Iranian side’s evidence is very good. It’s better than the Fars News Agency’s “big mouth”. Much more

The MQ-4C "Triton" high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft is a model dedicated to the US Navy in the RQ-4 "Global Hawk" unmanned reconnaissance aircraft series. Its overall flight performance is basically the same as that of the "Global Hawk". The main difference is that the main difference is that There are differences in airborne reconnaissance equipment. Among the UAVs currently being mass-produced by the US military, the "Global Hawk" series is the one with the largest size, the highest flying height, the most complicated structure, and the most expensive.
It is precisely because of its status as a “strategic unmanned reconnaissance aircraft” that the regional crisis at the “strategic” level was triggered by the status of its “strategic unmanned reconnaissance aircraft”, which triggered the regional crisis at the “strategic” level.

As the largest long-haul unmanned reconnaissance aircraft of the US military, Global Hawk has been conducting reconnaissance around the world including China for the past ten years. In these operations, the aircraft usually operates at a maximum altitude of nearly 18,000 meters, which is higher than the normal ceiling of most national fighters. Therefore, in the mission of tracking the "Global Hawk" in the East China Sea, the PLA fighters Generally, it can only be continuously tracked in a look up posture.

However, for air defense missiles, because the flight speed of the Global Hawk is only about 600 km/h, the attitude change of high-altitude flight is relatively slow. The aircraft does not have a comprehensive stealth design like RQ-170, so as long as it can Overcoming electronic interference and incorporating the "Global Hawk" into the shooting envelope is not as difficult as attacking.
When the PLA is tracking the "Global Hawk", it can only be carried out on the route below it. When the PLA is tracking the "Global Hawk", it can only be carried out on the route below it.

For the US military, many times the "Global Hawk" is used in a similar way to the manned U-2 series of high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft. Although the U-2 high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft evaded the fighters and anti-aircraft firepower at the beginning of its life with a maximum ceiling of more than 20,000 meters, the S-75 anti-aircraft missile hit the U-2 driven by Bowers in 1960. After the downcomer, the US military used the U-2 to conduct reconnaissance on the Soviet Union. There was a lot of convergence. Later, the Kuomintang reactionaries continued to use U-2 to conduct reconnaissance on the Chinese mainland, mainly because only 4 sets of S-75 air defenses were introduced at that time. Missiles (one of which is also used for mapping and imitation) cannot cover the southeast coast.

When our army intercepted U-2 and continued to deploy in batches, and the domestically drafted Red Flag-1 and Hongqi-2 began to be mass-equipped, this involuntary immigration reconnaissance operation was completely stopped. Subsequent US military use of the U-2 series also turned outside the airspace, using squint cameras or onboard electronic equipment for reconnaissance.
In the final analysis, the U-2 reconnaissance is being "stunned" by more and more PLA ground-to-air missile units. U-2's reconnaissance is "stunned" by more and more PLA ground-to-air missile units.

As a high-altitude unmanned reconnaissance aircraft, the Global Hawk will not directly invade the other's airspace in the high-threat area for the same reason, and perform reconnaissance missions with various oblique reconnaissance equipment. In order to increase the scope of reconnaissance as much as possible, the “edge ball” near the border is naturally inevitable, which undoubtedly increases the danger of the reconnaissance plane itself, especially when the Iranians suddenly “break the tacit understanding” of the live ammunition, leaving the US military without The time and operating space of the human reconnaissance plane is quite limited.

When the US Department of Defense expressed surprise that Iran had shot down the "global eagle", there is reason to believe that the US military is not only wary of Iran's anti-aircraft capability, but also for the setting and screening of the reconnaissance flight.
Whether it is the United States' statement or Iran's statement, the "Global Hawk"'s edge-ball flight is obvious. Whether it is the United States or Iran, the "Global Hawk" edge-ball flight is obvious.

There is some truth in American self-confidence. Although Iran has a large number of air defense missile systems from all sides, it can be described as a "chaotic" word from the perspective of a complete national air defense system.

On the one hand, Iran has introduced and tried to make Soviet-made anti-aircraft missiles including S-75 (self-made Sayyad-1 air defense missile), S-200, 2K12 "cube" from various sources since the Iran-Iraq war, and recently Obtained the Russian-made S-300 series long-range air defense missiles; on the other hand, Iran also tried to preserve and maintain many anti-aircraft missiles obtained from Western countries before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, including "Hock", "Standard", and "Light". "Sword" and so on, and made "Hock" and "Rattlesnake" low-altitude missiles by imitation; in addition, Iran is still developing various types of anti-aircraft missiles, such as Sayyad-2/3 and Bavar-373 long-range air defenses that have appeared in recent years. The missiles and the Raad-1/2 medium-range air defense missiles allegedly shooting down the "Global Hawk" are all models of the national defense air missiles that Iran has publicized over the past few years.
From the perspective of comprehensive performance, the S-300 is undoubtedly the most advanced anti-aircraft missile in Iran. From the comprehensive performance point of view, the S-300 is undoubtedly the most advanced anti-aircraft missile in Iran.

Since Iran did not receive a particularly advanced air defense missile system before the S-300, its domestic research strength is relatively limited. Therefore, although its newly developed missile system looks quite advanced on the "face value", the outside world does not Optimistic about the true performance of these missiles.

The previous Sayyad-2/3 was considered by the outside world to be "anti-aircraft missiles shaped like 'Patriots' made with 'standard' missile technology." Bavar-373 was regarded as "the longest developed using US-Russian old missile technology." Like the S-300 but not as good as the S-300's anti-aircraft missiles, as for the Raad series of surface-to-air missiles that Iran claimed to have shot down the "Global Hawk", it is considered by the outside world to be "beautiful using 'standard' missile technology. 'Air defense missiles'...
The Sayyad-2 missile looks like a "standard", the launch vehicle looks like a "standard" like the "Patriot" Sayyad-2 missile, and the launch vehicle is like a "patriot".
Bavar-373 is the same as the S-300 in every respect. The Bavar-373 is the same as the S-300 in every respect.

In September 2017, Iran showed the country’s Negah air defense command system. According to Iran’s announcement at the time, the main task of the system was to direct Iran to the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman. Southern air defense forces in the direction. Iran is not arguing about the external technical support in the construction of this system.

The commander of the Iranian air defense unit said at the time that the core of the new air defense command and control system was the JY-10 air defense command and control system of China Electric Power Group. The latter is “highly maneuverable, highly reliable, and highly automated” and can handle data from radars within 800 km, while receiving and processing 100 tracks, and can be supplied using radars from different models and formats. information.
In the picture of the air defense command system announced by the Iranian side, it can be seen that the information it processes is mainly in the air defense command system screen issued by Iran in the Iranian coastal area. It can be seen that the information it processes is mainly in the coastal areas of Iran.

From this point of view, although Iran's air defense system is not ideal in terms of basic conditions, through the integration of imported technology and domestic technology and the construction of air defense command system, a set of national air defense combat systems has been initially formed. In addition, Iran has relatively rich experience in combating UAVs in Western countries. It has even captured US-made unmanned reconnaissance aircraft through interference. Although such an air defense system may not be able to effectively fight the large-scale comprehensive air strikes organized by the United States, But it is obviously enough to attack drones like the "Global Hawk" that lack cover and react "slowly".
Iran’s interception is a good example. Iran’s interception is a good example.

Although the United States has argued that the plane was in the "international waters" at the time, the plane is undoubtedly a reconnaissance operation against Iran, considering that the situation in the United States and Iraq has been escalating in recent months, including the US President. The high-ranking government officials, including Rump, also slammed on Iran. The Iranian side is under tremendous pressure. It is counter-measures for such targeted actions such as strategic reconnaissance. From Iran’s own point of view, it is obviously not a kind. Outrageous means of disposal.

Of course, although Iran seems to be "suddenly using force", it is actually fine and detailed in carrying out this operation. According to the Iranian side, while the Iraqi army shot down the "Global Hawk" drone, a P-8A reconnaissance aircraft was also hit by Iranian air defense missiles, but Iran did not attack the P-8A. It was the choice of attacking the unmanned Global Hawk. After all, letting Americans lose hundreds of millions of dollars and let more than a dozen Americans die together, the latter may bring too much risk to Iran.
There are 9 people on the P-8A, but in actual use, there are often additional personnel involved in the operation. The P-8A has 9 employees, but in actual use, there are often additional personnel involved in the operation.

The Raad series of air defense missiles is also the feeling of a "beech" missile inferior replica

However, Iran is not unaware of the situation of the national defense air system. In particular, this kind of weapon between the East and the West and the self-research weapon are also common. The situation of the three generations of the old, the middle and the young is also well known. Therefore, in recent years, Iran has been seeking high-performance air defense command and control systems to integrate these air defense missiles with huge differences in their sources, technical systems, performance and service life into one. This is a challenge for Iran’s own technological capabilities, but the Iranians have initially reached this goal thanks to the help of foreign technology.

From Trump's tweet, we have learned that the US military has formulated a plan to launch a military strike against Iran after the Global Hawk was attacked. Although the size of the US military’s increase in the Middle East is far from the extent of a full-scale war against Iran, the US Navy maintains an aircraft carrier strike group and the Aegis ship in the Gulf region, plus the US Air Force’s Uday Air Force in Qatar. The B-52 strategic bomber deployed by the base is enough to organize hundreds of Tomahawk cruise missiles and a considerable number of fighters. It launches a traditional surgical strike against Iran, either destroying or weakening Iran’s air defense system, or Some facilities of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, which has been listed as a terrorist organization by the United States, have been hit.
Strategic bombers and aircraft carrier formations are still key factors in judging US military readiness. Strategic bombers and aircraft carrier formations are still key factors in judging US military readiness.

However, Trump claimed to "stop" the action that could cause 150 deaths and injuries before the attack, and at the same time use a series of "mistakes" to downplay the "Global Hawk" incident to an Iranian officer. Wrong decision-making rather than the will of the entire Iranian state - the US president is so hard to wash the land for a country like Iran, which is not friendly, in the case of obvious damage to his country’s interests. Of course, he will not be guilty because he is guilty. It will be his heart that the Iranian people can't bear to be ruined, and it is more likely that in Trump's own judgment, escalating tensions in the Gulf region and carrying out military strikes against Iran is not a priority for the United States in the current situation.
Trump’s judgment at a critical moment made the crisis not escalate Trump’s judgment at a critical moment so that the crisis did not escalate.

In contrast, the US military’s move in this incident is even more intriguing. In the absence of a full-scale war against Iran, the Pentagon quickly formulated a plan to crack down on Iran based on existing forces, and almost put it into practice. Such military operations clearly did not consider the impact of the attack. The political consequences may not even take into account how the military operations will follow up. It is more of a "eflation" attack in the Internet era with the meaning of action itself.
The US military also attacked Syria at the time. It also launched a round of missiles without a head and tail. It had little effect on the war. The US military also attacked Syria at the time. It also launched a round of missiles without a head and tail. It had little impact on the war situation.

If we look back at the military actions initiated by the United States at the beginning of this century, whether it is the Afghan war as a follow-up to the September 11 incident or the Iraq war aimed at overthrowing Saddam’s regime, it still belongs to the traditional "decision and then move" Large-scale war. These wars have a clear purpose, have relatively rigorous war plans, and constantly adjust and advance the development according to the development of the current situation; now with the promotion of precision strike weapons and the expansion of surgical strikes, "for bombing The bombing of military strikes has become more and more common in the US military operations in recent years. Such attacks may be caused by an incident and there is no follow-up after the attack. The attack itself does not solve any problems and will not change the situation in the region. It reflects the urgency of countries' attitudes in contemporary international politics.

Even if he does not launch a military attack on Iran, Trump can stand on the Iranian issue. After all, he is pursuing that Iran must not possess nuclear weapons, and Iran’s nuclear program has not been built since the beginning. Even a distance from the manufacture of weapons-grade enriched uranium is still a big gap. Under such circumstances, many things (such as the G20 summit held in Japan next week) are obviously more important than the military strike against Iran.
After all, at the G20 summit, Americans have to make a fuss about the trade war. After the G20 summit, Americans have to make a fuss about the trade war.

However, for the United States, this will undoubtedly bring a very bad example to the international community: Iran has shot down a US drone in the face of the United States, and the US military has been building it around Iran. As a result, the atmosphere of the army’s pressure has turned out that the president has personally cancelled the military operations that the military has already established. The reason for the publicity is that the loss of drones is disproportionate to “killing 150 people”...
 

tun_dr_m

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So what did Iran used to shoot down Dotard's US$100M+ Global Hawk Drone?



It is actually a Cheaper Clone of USSR BUK missiles, which Ukraine used it to shoot down Najib's MH-17!

Global Hawk max service ceiling altitude is about 22km. But due to limitation of they spying system they must usually fly at only about 18km altitude, otherwise, they got poor quality photo/video/radar images. Allah's Khordad 3 missile can reach up to 27km altitude max, when target is not too far. When targets are further than the max altitude will be reduced because rocket fuel spent to cover distance instead of altitude.


Allah's missiles:





Soviet Missiles (MH-17 type):


Putin's (M2) enhanced and upgraded BUK - Ukraine does not have this:

 

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Fucking Chee Bye loser! When he lost he call his enemy his best friend, he will soon have too many best friends, all fucking his ass non-stop!
 

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Iran said they could had given Dotard a Half Staff Flag with 35 coffins if they shot the P-8 Poseidon which was flying nearby the MQ-4C drone. Was too kind and merciful towards Dotard. Dotard called off attack because Israel made emergency call to beg Dotard. Iran was preparing to fire a dozen ballistic missiles into Israel with some serious warheads in anticipation of US attack. Israel panic! Beg Dotard don't Sabotage them!



https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/world/2019-06-24/doc-ihytcerk8864765.shtml

伊朗军方称美军反潜机与全球鹰同飞 本可以一并击落

伊朗军方称美军反潜机与全球鹰同飞 本可以一并击落



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伊朗有能力打下美军无人侦察机一事,已经让美国国防部官员感到惊讶,但伊朗军方的最新曝料,或许能够使美方的“惊讶”升级为“惊恐”。
据今日俄罗斯(RT)21日报道,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空中部队哈吉扎德准将对伊朗国家电视台表示,之所以击落美军的无人机,是为了迫使一架与之并排飞行的美国P-8海上巡逻机改变航线。
伊朗塔斯尼姆通讯社援引哈吉扎德准将的话称,伊军本来还可以瞄准这架载人的巡逻机,但他们没有这样做。
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哈吉扎德准将与被击落的美军无人机 图自社交媒体
这位准将声称,美国P-8巡逻机上大约有35名人员,但他没有提供这一数字的来源。他同时提到,美军曾两次收到警告——如果飞机不改变航线,伊方就可能对其发动袭击。
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波音P-8波塞冬海上巡逻机 图自波音
哈吉扎德还表示,即便是美军的无人驾驶飞机,也有能力向数千英里之外的操作人员传递信息。
“这架无人机拥有一个系统,允许它将接收到的信号和信息中继到自己的中央系统。”他补充道,并称(将无人机击落的)命令是在其于当地时间20日凌晨4:05进入伊朗领空后下达的。
21日下午,伊朗军方对外展示了美军无人机的残骸。华盛顿方面则坚称,这架飞机是在国际水域上空被击落的。
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6月21日,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队展示了美国无人机的残骸 图自塔斯尼姆通讯社
据美联社20日报道,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队指挥官侯赛因•萨拉米告诉伊朗伊斯兰通讯社,击落美国无人机,是向美国发出了一个“明确的信号”,那就是伊朗的边界不容侵犯。他表示,虽然伊朗无意与任何人开战,但已经做好了“开战的准备”。
同日,特朗普在社交媒体上表示,击落飞机是“轻率和愚蠢的”,伊朗犯了一个“非常严重的错误”。
不过随后他又改口称,很难相信伊朗是故意的。他说,“我认为伊朗可能犯了一个错误,我可以想象,是一名将军或者其他人错误地击落了那架无人机。”
路透社认为,这是试图为冲突降级。
来源:观察者网 谷智轩



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The Iranian military said that the US military anti-submarine aircraft and the global eagle could fly together.
The Iranian military said that the US military anti-submarine aircraft and the global eagle could fly together.
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Iran’s ability to lay down US military unmanned reconnaissance planes has surprised US Department of Defense officials, but the latest exposure from the Iranian military may be able to escalate the US’s “surprise” to “frightening”.

According to today's Russia (RT) report on the 21st, Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Air Force Brigadier Hajizad told Iranian state television that the reason why the U.S. drone was shot down was to force a US P-8 flying side by side. The maritime patrol aircraft changed the route.

The Iranian Tasnim news agency quoted Brigadier General Hajizad as saying that the Iraqi army could have targeted the manned patrol aircraft, but they did not.

Brigadier General Hajizad and the US military drone that was shot down

The Brigadier General claimed that there were about 35 people on the US P-8 patrol aircraft, but he did not provide the source of this number. He also mentioned that the US military has twice received warnings - if the aircraft does not change the route, the Iraqi side may launch an attack on it.

Boeing P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft

Hajizad also said that even the US military's drones have the ability to transmit information to operators thousands of miles away.

“This drone has a system that allows it to relay the signals and information it receives to its central system,” he added, adding that the command to shoot down the drone was at its local time of 20 It was released after entering the Iranian airspace at 4:05 am.

On the afternoon of the 21st, the Iranian military showed the wreckage of the US military drones. Washington insisted that the plane was shot down over international waters.

On June 21st, the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards demonstrated the wreckage of American drones from Tasnim News Agency.

According to the Associated Press reported on the 20th, the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Commander Hussein Salami told the Iranian Islamic News Agency that shooting down U.S. drones sent a "clear signal" to the United States that Iran’s borders are not allowed. Infringement. He said that although Iran has no intention of fighting anyone, it has already prepared for "war."

On the same day, Trump said on social media that shooting down the plane was "reckless and stupid," and Iran made a "very serious mistake."

But then he changed his mind and said that it is hard to believe that Iran was intentional. He said, "I think Iran may have made a mistake. I can imagine that a general or someone else mistakenly shot down the drone."

Reuters believes that this is an attempt to downgrade the conflict.

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Iran claimed it ‘refrained’ from shooting down a US spy plane with 35 on-board flying alongside its downed drone.

Air Force commander Sardar Hajizadeh alleged a Boeing P-8 spy plane with servicemen aboard was also flying with the drone in Iranian airspace as he unveiled debris in Tehran.
“With the US drone in the region there was also an American P-8 plane with 35 people on board,” Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the Guard’s Aerospace Force, was quoted as saying by the Tasnim news agency.
“This plane also entered our airspace and we could have shot it down, but we did not,” he said.​
He ominously said it had not been attacked ‘because our goal was to warn the Americans,’ Tasnim News reported.
Hajizadeh said his forces shot down the RQ-4A Global Hawk drone 10 minutes after issuing a final warning.
There was a P-8 surveillance aircraft operating in the area at the time Iran shot down an RQ-4 yesterday, a US official tells CNN.
The plane was in international airspace, the official said.

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The P-8 Poseidon — based on Boeing’s 737-800 airframe — carries anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare equipment, as well as shipping interdiction and electronic support measures.
Speaking at Friday prayers in Tehran, Mohammad Javad Haj Ali Akbari condemned the ‘imperialist arrogance’ of the U.S. flying its drone into Iranian airspace.
Iranian state TV today showed off debris from the downed spy plane, including its fuselage, but none of the secret technology contained within.
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps shot down a US Navy Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS-D) aircraft, specifically a RQ-4A Global Hawk High-Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) drone that costs $123 million and was designed to be largely invulnerable to attack.
Iran claimed the drone entered its airspace, but the Trump administration maintains the unmanned aircraft was operating in international airspace and characterized the incident as an “unprovoked attack.”
The incident marked the first direct Iranian-claimed attack on US assets and came amid heightened tensions between the US and Iran, triggered by Trump’s decision to withdraw from an international accord that curbed Tehran’s nuclear programme.
The downing of the drone was also the latest in an escalating series of incidents in the Gulf since mid-May, including suspected attacks on six oil tankers that the US blamed on Iran.
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Iran could have shot down a P-8 Poseidon surveillance aircraft and killed Americans Thursday, but chose instead to target an unmanned Navy RQ-4 Global Hawk drone in order to avoid the possibility of all-out war, an Iranian general said Friday.
The P-8 anti-submarine, anti-surface warfare aircraft "was also violating our airspace and we could have downed it too," said Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards aerospace force, according to Iran's Fars news agency.

His forces refrained from targeting the P-8 and instead launched a missile at the $100 million-plus Global Hawk "because our aim was to warn the terrorist forces of the U.S.," Hajizadeh said, according to Fars.
Late Thursday, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif rejected U.S. charges that the Global Hawk was in international airspace over the Gulf, and said on Twitter that Iran had retrieved parts of the downed drone in Iranian territorial waters.
Iran's claims on having the Poseidon targeted and the downing of the Global Hawk raised the stakes on what the U.S. response would be to the escalating crisis in the Gulf.
In a series of tweets early Friday, President Donald Trump confirmed that he called off at the last-minute planned air strikes Thursday night on Iranian missile launch sites and radar installations believed to have been involved in targeting and downing the Global Hawk.
"We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights [sic] when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone," Trump said.
"I am in no hurry" to attack Iran, although the U.S. military was "ready to go," Trump said in repeating his warning that the red line for the U.S. would be renewed Iranian efforts to acquire nuclear weapons.
"Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!" Trump tweeted.
-- Richard Sisk can be reached at [email protected].

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An Iranian general said Iran decided not to shoot down a U.S. Navy plane with a crew of 35, opting instead to shoot down a nearby U.S. Navy drone, as a warning to the United States.
Iranian Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh claimed the U.S. RQ-4A Global Hawk drone and nearby Navy P-8 aircraft were violating Iran’s airspace, prompting Iran to shoot down the drone as a warning to the American “terrorists,” according to Iranian state media Fars News Agency on Friday.

“We intended to send a message to American terrorists in the region,” Hajizadeh said.


“Along with the American drone was an American P8 aircraft with 35 on board, and it was also violating our airspace and we could have downed it too,” he said, adding, “But we did not do it, because our aim was to warn the terrorist forces of the U.S.”

Hajizadeh is the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Aerospace Force, which shot down the U.S. drone near the Strait of Hormuz early Thursday.
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Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif posted on Twitter on Thursday to say that Iran had collected pieces of the drone, also claiming it was shot down because it violated Iran’s airspace.
“[The] U.S. drone took off from UAE in stealth mode and violated Iranian airspace,” Zarif wrote, noting that the drone “was targeted near… [the] Kouh-e Mobarak region in the Central district of Jask, in Hormuzgan province, after the aircraft violated Iran’s airspace.”
At 00:14 US drone took off from UAE in stealth mode & violated Iranian airspace. It was targeted at 04:05 at the coordinates (25°59’43″N 57°02’25″E) near Kouh-e Mobarak.
We’ve retrieved sections of the US military drone in OUR territorial waters where it was shot down. pic.twitter.com/pJ34Tysmsg
— Javad Zarif (@JZarif) June 20, 2019

“We’ve retrieved sections of the U.S. military drone in OUR territorial waters where it was shot down,” he added.
In a previous tweet, Zarif insisted, “We don’t seek war, but will zealously defend our skies, land & waters. We’ll take this new aggression to #UN & show that the US is lying about international waters.”
The US wages #EconomicTerrorism on Iran, has conducted covert action against us & now encroaches on our territory.
We don’t seek war, but will zealously defend our skies, land & waters.
We’ll take this new aggression to #UN & show that the US is lying about international waters
— Javad Zarif (@JZarif) June 20, 2019

IRGC Commander Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami also reiterated that shooting down the drone was a message to the U.S. for violating Iran’s borders.
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“Borders are our red lines and any enemy which violates them will not go back home and will be annihilated. The only way for enemies is to respect Iran’s territorial integrity and national interests,” Salami said, according to Fars News Agency.
“We declare that we do not want war with any country but we are fully ready for war and the today incident was a clear instance of this precise message,” he underscored.
It is the third time Iran has directly or indirectly targeted a U.S. drone in the past two weeks.
Before attacking two oil tankers near the coast of Iran last week, Iranians launched a surface-to-air missile at a U.S. Navy MQ-9 drone flying in the Gulf of Oman.
The missile missed and fell into the ocean, but days earlier, another U.S. Navy MQ-9 drone was successfully shot down over the Red Sea by Houthi rebels with a suspected Iranian missile.
Iran is also suspected of being responsible for the attack on the two tankers near the Strait of Hormuz last week.
 
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