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Chitchat Guatemala Caravan Overruns Mexico Border! What If Rohingya Horde Smashes Through Jiuhu Borders And Head For CECApore? How?

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Mexico has fallen! Invasion force headed up north to Arizona And California!

 

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Rohingya and indians consider singapura their long lost island.they have every right to live in it.

Singapore is the oasis in an otherwise muslim majority shithole that consists of peninsula malaysia and the main indon islands. It's better if the rohingya flee to kelantan and trengganu, where the religion, culture, and level of maturity and poverty is roughly the same.
 

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Don't worry ...the Indian Army will come to the rescue of sinkapore. Actually, it is for India's self interest. There is only so much land in sinakpore. If the Roh tribe comes, then there will no space for the millions of Ah Nehs waiting to come to sinkapore.
PAP can count on Modi to send Indian troops here in the event of Roh invasion of the peesai.
 

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Why dont the US donate usd1 bil a year to honduran poor just to stop this exodus?
Why should they? Your country yr problem...if I were the USA. I will declare martial law in the border areas... close if the border n shoot anyone entering illegally. Than all these illegal immigration will stop. There is no penalties for illegal entry tat is why illegal immigration has gotten soo bad
 

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I fully expect dotard to take in the migrants. They are fleeing oppression, poverty and war in their homeland and are deserving of refuge.
 

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Migrant caravan headed to US grows to 7,200: UN official
By MATT GUTMAN BILL HUTCHINSON
Oct 22, 2018, 4:54 PM ET
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As thousands of Central American children, parents, elderly and other adults intent on migrating to the United States awoke from a night sleeping on concrete in far-southern Mexico, President Donald Trump resumed tweeting about the migrant caravan as the fault of Democrats and a danger to the U.S.

The caravan of migrants, mostly from Guatemala and Honduras, bedded down Sunday night on the concrete of a town square in Tapachula, Mexico, but awoke Monday determined to resume their arduous journey to the U.S. border still some 1,700 miles away.


Overnight the group was joined by about 1,500 additional migrants who followed them up from Guatemala, organizers told ABC News. The total number of migrants now headed to the U.S. border is estimated to be about 7,200, United Nations Deputy spokesman Farhan Haq told reporters in New York on Monday.

Haq said that the International Organization for Migration reported that migrants continue to stream into Mexico from Guatemala and "are likely to remain in the country for an extended period."

Trump, meanwhile, in a series of tweets asserted that "criminals and unknown Middle Easterners" are amid the crowd, for which he offered no evidence. He also again said Democrats are to blame for not working with his administration on immigration reform.

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"Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally," Trump tweeted Monday morning.

He went on to tweet that the Mexican federal police have been unable to stop the sea of humanity. The Mexican officers have been monitoring the caravan since the crowds breached a fence Friday at the Mexico-Guatemalan border and pushed past border patrol agents.

PHOTO: Honduran migrants taking part in a caravan heading to the US, aboard a truck in Metapa on their way to Tapachula, Chiapas state, Mexico on Oct. 22, 2018. Pedro Pardo/AFP/Getty Images
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"Sadly, it looks like Mexico's Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States," Trump tweeted Monday. "Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!"




Trump offered no evidence that anyone from the Middle East is with the Central American migrants. An ABC News crew traveling with the group has also seen no evidence to support the president's claim.

The president also blasted the governments of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador -- the countries that make up the so-called "Northern Triangle" of Central America -- for failing to prevent the exodus of people from their countries. He threatened to cut off aid.

"Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them," Trump tweeted Monday.

PHOTO: Central American migrants walk along the highway near the border with Guatemala, as they continue their journey trying to reach the U.S., in Tapachula, Mexico Oct. 21, 2018.Ueslei Marcelino/Reuters
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As he left the White House Monday afternoon for a campaign rally in Houston for Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Trump slammed the Central American countries during a gaggle with reporters on the South Lawn of the White House.

"We give them tremendous amounts of money ... Hundreds of millions of dollars," said Trump, adding that in return they give "nothing to us."

He also criticized the Mexican government's handling of the caravan.

"I guess it looks like the people are walking right through the middle of Mexico. So I'm not exactly thrilled there either," Trump said.

Responding to a question from ABC News' Chief White House Correspondent Jon Karl on whether he has any evidence of terrorists infiltrating the caravan, Trump said: "Go into the middle and search. You're going to find MS-13 [gang members]. You're going to find Middle Easterners. You're going to find everything. Guess what? We are not allowing them in our country. We want safety."

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said "absolutely" there is credible evidence of Middle Easterners in the caravan of migrants.

"Absolutely," Sanders said when asked about any evidence of Middle Easterners in the caravan. "And we know this is a continuing problem and it's not just in this, we have 10 individuals suspected or known terrorists that try to enter our country illegally every day. This is a problem the president's been talking about for a long time and certainly one we'd like to see addressed," Sanders said.

ABC has asked the White House for more details about that evidence Sanders referenced.

Despite the president saying he's looking at cutting aid or calling for a state of emergency at the border, Sanders could not say what specific steps the administration is planning in reaction to the migrant caravan other than saying "all options are on the table."

The Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer of New York, dismissed Trump's claim as a diversion from other issues, particularly health care, ahead of the midterm elections.


Rep. Eliot Engle of New York, the ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said it would be illegal for the president to withhold foreign aid to Central American countries appropriated by Congress.

"Fortunately, Congress -- not the president -- had the power of the purse, and my colleagues and I will not stand idly by as this administration ignores congressional intent," Engle said in a statement Monday.

The migrants in the caravan, many of whom are trudging north on worn shoes or bare feet, with some fainting from dehydration in the hot sun on Sunday. One young girl apparently suffering from dehydration in the heat Sunday fell from a rickshaw into the arms of an ABC News reporter, who helped her back on the rickshaw to be taken to an ambulance.

The rickshaw driver told ABC News on Monday that the girl was treated and was doing better.

Many of the migrants said they are fleeing violence and murderous gangs in their homelands.

PHOTO: A Honduran migrant boy taking part in a caravan heading to the U.S., cries as he waits on the Guatemala-Mexico border bridge, in Ciudad Tecun Uman, Guatemala, on Oct. 20, 2018.Johan Ordonez/AFP/Getty Images
A Honduran migrant boy taking part in a caravan heading to the U.S., cries as he waits on the Guatemala-Mexico border bridge, in Ciudad Tecun Uman, Guatemala, on Oct. 20, 2018.more +
"My family is suffering right now, but what's happening in Honduras is worse," one migrant, Blanca, who is traveling with her two young sons and teenage daughter, told ABC News.

Blanca said she fled her Honduras home with her children after her husband was killed by gangs. She said her goal is to reach the United States.

(MORE: Police in Mexico try to stop caravan of Central American migrants determined to reach the US)
The migrants have been warned by Mexican federal officials that they entered that country illegally and have been advised to go to shelters and apply for asylum to legally remain in the country, at least temporarily.

(MORE: President Trump threatens to close southern US border over caravan of migrants)
But many of the those in the caravan told ABC News that they believe the offer of asylum is a ruse to round them up for deportation.

(MORE: DHS secretary praises Mexican police for handling caravan migrants 'in a professional and humane manner')
Thousands of migrants walked about 25 miles on Sunday from near the Guatemala border to Tapachula, Mexico, where they spent the night in the town square.

Unlike in previous days, the presence of Mexican federal police and military Blackhawk helicopters were not in sight as the migrants walked north, many holding hands and chanting, "United people will never be defeated!"

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US national security adviser in Russia to announce end to nuclear treaty
By PATRICK REEVELL
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U.S. national security adviser John Bolton has arrived in Moscow, where he is expected to tell Russian officials that America plans to withdraw from a historic nuclear arms treaty that dates to the Cold War.

Bolton met on Monday with the head of Russia’s National Security Council, Nikolai Patrushev, Russia’s state news agency, RIA Novosti reported, citing Patrushev’s press office. Later Bolton dined with foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, with Russia's foreign ministry tweeting photographs of the U.S. delegation sitting at an elaborately laid table across from Russian officials.

Bolton is spending two days in Moscow, and is due to meet on Tuesday with Russia's defense minister, Sergey Shoigu and later president Vladimir Putin. The trip is expected to be dominated by the Trump administration’s decision to pull out of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces or INF treaty.

President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that the U.S. will withdraw from the INF, saying Russia is in violation of the treaty. The announcement prompted strong criticism from arms control advocates, as well as former U.S. officials, who have said it removes an important safeguard and knocks out a symbolic pillar of post-Cold War trust between Russia and the U.S. at a moment when they are already locked in confrontation.

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The INF was signed in 1987 by President Ronald Reagan and the Soviet Union’s leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, at a time when the leaders of the two superpowers were seeking to put an end to decades of tension. The treaty bans the U.S. and Russia from deploying all ground-launched nuclear and conventional missiles with ranges of 300 - 3,420 miles.

The agreement did away with thousands of missiles and was hailed as a stepping stone towards ending the Cold War. But for several years now the U.S. and Russia, have accused one another of violating the agreement. Starting under the Obama administration, the U.S. has alleged that Russia has been flouting part of the agreement by secretly developing and deploying a new cruise missile.

On Saturday, Trump cited violations when he declared the U.S. would now pull out of the treaty.

"They’ve been violating it for many years and I don’t know why President Obama didn’t negotiate or pull out,” Trump told reporters in Nevada.

“We’re not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and do weapons and we’re not allowed to. We’re the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we’ve honored the agreement but Russia has not unfortunately honored the agreement so we’re going to pull out.”

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Russia has long denied the U.S. accusations and has retorted by alleging a U.S. missile defense system in Europe also violates the treaty.

Since Trump's announcement, Russian officials have criticized the decision to withdraw, saying it undermines the system of arms control that has regulated the two countries' relations.

On Monday, as Bolton was meeting with Patrushev, the Kremlin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said it would be seeking more detailed explanations from Bolton why the U.S. is leaving the treaty and "categorically" denied Russia is in violation. Peskov warned that Russia would have to take steps to "restore the balance" if the U.S. now began developing weapons banned under the treaty.

Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, ahead of meeting Bolton said that the U.S. so far had not triggered the six-month withdrawal mechanism that is built-in to the treaty.

The Trump administration’s withdrawal from the INF treaty is the first time the U.S. has abandoned a major arms treaty since President George W. Bush unilaterally exited the Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty with Russia in 2002.

The decision has been met with a chorus of criticism from arms control advocates, as well as some former U.S. officials, who believe exiting the treaty frees Russia's hand while giving the U.S. little in return.

Members of Trump's own Republican party have also expressed alarm that it could unravel the decades-old international system of nuclear arms control, calling on the president to renegotiate rather than abandon the treaty. "I hope we’re not moving down the path to undo much of the nuclear arms control treaties that we have put in place,” Bob Corker, the Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said on CNN on Sunday. “I think that would be a huge mistake.”

Mikhail Gorbachev, who signed the INF with Reagan, condemned Trump's decision, saying on Sunday that "Washington has chosen the irresponsible path". Gorbachev said the Russian and the U.S. governments must still try to salvage the agreement. "I think that train hasn't left the station," RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.

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And the solution is ??? Bomb those countries to exterminate all of them?
No need to be so extreme. Just abolish political asylum as a requirement for immigration. It's the most abused n useless law anyway. Build the wall n have proper immigration checkpoints n controls like any sane country. If there migrants know they can't enter the country they will not try. They just bring their problems to the host countries. N change the law for citizenship by birth. If illegal immigrants give birth in the US soil. Their children don't get citizenship. This will close most of the loop holes. And abolish sanctuary cities.

 

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every country has her right to protect her border. building 6.9 layers of no-man's land filled with (1) artillery fire zones, (2) barbed wires, (3) minefields, (4) trenches, (5) pillboxes, (6) anti-tank and anti-vehicle ditches, (6.9) machine gun nests will be better than just a wall. you walk into a minefield on your own volition you die. simple as that.
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