Serious Good Moslem MP's Son Receives President Scholarship! Oppies Still Think Singapore Isn't Meritocratic?

[mudhatter]

Singapore used to be part of m&d territory until 1819. One of the useless sultan's sons signed away Singapore so that the British would support his claim to the throne. And with that, the johor sultanate lost its claim over Singapore. There was also a change in the actual dynasty behind the Johor Sultante. The current sultan and his family tree is different from the sultan who signed away Singapore in 1819.

The territories claimed by a single m&d family doesn't mean the entire m&d race has a claim on the land. That's how monarchies and feudalism worked.

stinkypore is still very much part of Tanah Melayu. Not part of China, India or Africa for sure.

The Sultan of Johor never sold Stinkypore in 1819.

He permitted the Brits to setup trading posts and factories in stinkypore, that's all.

Today, Stinkypore does just the same. So do most countries. Trading posts and factories do not indicate transfer of ownership of territory.

So many foreign companies setup factories in ah Tiongs' Tiongkok. You mean stinkies can now stake a claim to Tiong kok territory?

Malaysia = Constitutional monarchy btw.

http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_2014-05-16_133354.html



1819 Singapore Treaty

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On 6 February 1819, Stamford Raffles, Temenggong Abdu’r Rahman and Sultan Hussein Shah of Johor signed a treaty that gave the British East India Company (EIC) the right to set up a trading post in Singapore. In exchange, SultanHussein was to receive a yearly sum of 5,000 Spanish dollars while the Temenggong would receive a yearly sum of 3,000 Spanish dollars.1 It was also on this day that the British flag was formally hoisted in Singapore.2 It marked the birth of Singapore as a British settlement.3Raffles left Singapore the following day, leaving William Farquhar to assume the role of Resident and Commandant in Singapore. The latter’s son-in-law, Francis Bernard, was appointed Master Attendant.4

Singapore island before the British
In January 1819, just a month before the treaty was signed, Singapore had approximately 1,000 inhabitants. They were made up mostly of “500 Orang Kallang, 200 Orang Seletar, 150 Orang Gelam and other orang laut”.5 There were also about 20 to 30 Malays in the Temenggong’s entourage and around the same number of Chinese.6 This was the Singapore that Raffles and Farquhar found when they first landed on the island.7 On 30 January, Raffles and the Temenggong signed a preliminary agreement to the establishment of a British trading post on the island.8 Sultan Hussein, who was in Riau at the time, was then brought to Singapore for the signing of the Singapore Treaty.9

Terms of the treaty
The ceremony during which the treaty was signed was attended by the people on the island at the time. Among those present were Chinese planters, Malays, as well as the orang laut. British officials, soldiers and Malay dignitaries at the ceremony dressed in regalia and fine clothes.10 The treaty was written in English on the left side and Malay on the right.11 It gave legal backing for the EIC to “maintain a factory or factories on any part of His Highness’s hereditary Dominions”.12

The British pledged to assist the Sultan in the event of external attacks but not to get involved in internal disputes. The Sultan, in turn, agreed to protect the EIC against enemies. The Sultan and Temenggong also agreed that they would “not enter into any treaty with any other nation… nor admit or consent to the settlement in any part of their Dominions of any other power European or American”.13 Thus, the treaty protected the interests of both the British and the Malay rulers.14

Limitations
The Singapore Treaty had its limitations for the British. As recognised byJohn Crawfurd, the second British Resident of Singapore, it “amounted to little more than a permission for the formation of a British factory. There was in reality no territorial cession giving a legal right of legislation. The native chief was considered to be the proprietor of the land, even within the bounds of the British factory”.15 Thus, the Sultan and the Temenggong still had a lot of power over Singapore since equality was essentially given to all three parties.16 Sultan Hussein, as native chief, was also entitled to a portion of duties of customs at Singapore’s port.17 At the same time, he was also allowed to engage in practices such as debt bondage and slavery, which Raffles found morally unacceptable.18


Since the Brits have left and colonialism is no longer in vogue, stinkyland has no raison d'être .

 

[JohnTan]

Today, Stinkypore does just the same. So do most countries. Trading posts and factories do not indicate transfer of ownership of territory.

Yes it did. The British set up their administrative offices here, collected taxes and governed over Singapore. The m&d sultan and the successor usurper dynasty were quite happy to receive nominal payment from the British.

What the chinks could do or would do with their overseas factories is their own business. It has no relevance to Singapore and British rule.

 

[mudhatter]

Yes it did. The British set up their administrative offices here, collected taxes and governed over Singapore. The m&d sultan and the successor usurper dynasty were quite happy to receive nominal payment from the British.

What the chinks could do or would do with their overseas factories is their own business. It has no relevance to Singapore and British rule.

That's irrelevant. The Brits did that all over the former British Empire incl the USA. Don't tell me the USA is still British territory. Don't tell me places like Nigeria, Pakistan, Ah Neh land or Caribbean are still parts of the British Empire.

The British Empire is dead and buried.

Get over it.

Stinkyland has no raison d'être.

The stinky chinks have no reason to be in Tanah Melayu, same goes for chinks in Jiuhu territory. All these pendatang should be sent back packing to their motherland of commie chinkistan.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

President post should be made permanently for malays only. Just to remind the immigrant communities where the island is located.

Wat abouf reserving it for ah nehs like the current president?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

That's irrelevant. The Brits did that all over the former British Empire incl the USA. Don't tell me the USA is still British territory. Don't tell me places like Nigeria, Pakistan, Ah Neh land or Caribbean are still parts of the British Empire.

The British Empire is dead and buried.

Get over it.

Stinkyland has no raison d'être.

The stinky chinks have no reason to be in Tanah Melayu, same goes for chinks in Jiuhu territory. All these pendatang should be sent back packing to their motherland of commie chinkistan.

Tat is the biggest mistake dead fart made...to not expel the m&ds...no m&ds now..no complaints

 

[syed putra]

Wat abouf reserving it for ah nehs like the current president?

Current president has a indian father and malay mother but follow malay custom and culture. That makes her malay as defined in the constitution.

 

[JohnTan]

That's irrelevant. The Brits did that all over the former British Empire incl the USA. Don't tell me the USA is still British territory. Don't tell me places like Nigeria, Pakistan, Ah Neh land or Caribbean are still parts of the British Empire.

The British Empire is dead and buried.

Get over it.

Stinkyland has no raison d'être.

The stinky chinks have no reason to be in Tanah Melayu, same goes for chinks in Jiuhu territory. All these pendatang should be sent back packing to their motherland of commie chinkistan.

Singapore is an independent country, not a m&d country. Get over it.

Everyone is a pendatang, including the m&ds.