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Ramseth

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LHL says he is the PM..so the buck stops at his table

Yes, LHL has publicly acknowledged and taken responsibility for that decision. LYK and TT has publicly expressed their doubts but it's the PM to decide. During GCT's time as PM, the casino idea was already floating around but GCT didn't want to back it too. It was LHL who backed it.

It's still early days to measure and tell the pros and cons. But my impression is, there're many Singaporeans gambling there despite the levy. Whereas, there're very few Singaporeans getting jobs there. Their published employment figures are mirky as they count PRs as locals.
 

red amoeba

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I disagree with u. LHL says he is the PM..so the buck stops at his table

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LOL, yes the whole world knows he is the PM, and his dad is the MM...incidentially M comes before P in the alphabets...LOL...wonder why wikileaks leaked cables spoken by LKY and nothing spoken by LHL? strange isn't it...
 

TracyTan866

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Yes, LHL has publicly acknowledged and taken responsibility for that decision. LYK and TT has publicly expressed their doubts but it's the PM to decide. During GCT's time as PM, the casino idea was already floating around but GCT didn't want to back it too. It was LHL who backed it.

Yes, morally and organisational, LHL is responsible.

Singaporeans must know that LKY and GCT didnt want casinos as they know the ills that come with gambling
 

TracyTan866

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It's still early days to measure and tell the pros and cons. But my impression is, there're many Singaporeans gambling there despite the levy. Whereas, there're very few Singaporeans getting jobs there. Their published employment figures are mirky as they count PRs as locals.

I agree with you.

In these early days and u can see the ills of the casinos.

How long more before the pap acknowledges that casinos are bad for SG. If the pap refuses to acknowledge, even after 10yrs, they can still rationalise that is still too early to ascertain the long term effects.

we dont need much empirical evidence to conclude that casinos are bad. what we need is morale courage to acknowledge it
 

red amoeba

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Yes, LHL has publicly acknowledged and taken responsibility for that decision. LYK and TT has publicly expressed their doubts but it's the PM to decide. During GCT's time as PM, the casino idea was already floating around but GCT didn't want to back it too. It was LHL who backed it.

It's still early days to measure and tell the pros and cons. But my impression is, there're many Singaporeans gambling there despite the levy. Whereas, there're very few Singaporeans getting jobs there. Their published employment figures are mirky as they count PRs as locals.

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the higher, senior position are helmed by ang mohs & americans...but hopefully, after a few years...they will slowly pass onto locals...

the lower positions, croupers etc...are shunned by locals - long hours, smoky environment, shifts etc...and pay sucks...supplement only by tips...not easy.
 

TracyTan866

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LOL, yes the whole world knows he is the PM, and his dad is the MM...incidentially M comes before P in the alphabets...LOL...wonder why wikileaks leaked cables spoken by LKY and nothing spoken by LHL? strange isn't it...

LHL's opinions are not valuable
 

red amoeba

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I agree with you.

In these early days and u can see the ills of the casinos.

How long more before the pap acknowledges that casinos are bad for SG. If the pap refuses to acknowledge, even after 10yrs, they can still rationalise that is still too early to ascertain the long term effects.

we dont need much empirical evidence to conclude that casinos are bad. what we need is morale courage to acknowledge it

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its a no return path...after sinking billions of dollars...it will badly hurt our reputation if we keblakang boseng after number of years...no, they won't acknowledge..even if we end up like macao, ruled by triads...
 

TracyTan866

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the higher, senior position are helmed by ang mohs & americans...but hopefully, after a few years...they will slowly pass onto locals...

the lower positions, croupers etc...are shunned by locals - long hours, smoky environment, shifts etc...and pay sucks...supplement only by tips...not easy.

the casinos create more jobs for the foreign workers. the casinos caused more social and matrimonial problems to singaporeans. the casinos bring in more vices and crimes to SG

so are casinos good or bad for Singaporeans?
 
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TracyTan866

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its a no return path...after sinking billions of dollars...it will badly hurt our reputation if we keblakang boseng after number of years...no, they won't acknowledge..even if we end up like macao, ruled by triads...

so whose fault is it? shd we vote them out?

they are many more mistakes the pap makes
 

TracyTan866

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The two ministers who convinced him are George and Vivian.

if lhl's intellect is substandard, dont blame his ministers. they just present what they think is best for SG. as PM, lhl makes the final decision and gives the go ahead. good decision, he takes the credit. bad decision, the PM takes the blame. so if casino i bad for SG, LHL takes the blame. i dun agree with anyone who tries to push the blame to his ministers
 

kukubird58

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...wonder why wikileaks leaked cables spoken by LKY and nothing spoken by LHL? strange isn't it...

hahaha...not strange lah..LHL is busy fixing the opp.
Seriously..if u know protocol, it is not surprising that LHL will have less chance for cocktails talk cocks to be leaked because the diplomats are not senior enough to meet/chit chat with him.
 
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