Jw5,
Appreciate your post which encapsulates the major issues in a nutshell.
IMO, the ones who really drive traffic away and cause forummers to give up on SBF is those chaps baluku, Clinton, RonRon, kinana who are really incessant in their drivel. And of course, I fully understand your anger about the nasty post about the dead woman. It is inhuman and absurd.
The problem is most people learn to tune them out or better still place them on IGNORE like wat I do, so we have to rely on mods like YOU, DRIFTER, RAIDER, ETC, to step to the fore and keep them out. Seriously, if I thought I had the time, I would PM Sam and volunteer in this department -- keeping those nut cases at bay so that other won't get DRIVEN AWAY from the forum. Think of how many people we lost over these years. Sure you and the other oldies can remember how Bob and gang literally tore the place apart before they were disciplined by the moderators.
That does not mean lesser infractions like those by erection2011 should not be critcized -- i think as a culture we have become so used to being deferential. Scroo's post was long and very biting but that his style, and is very actually very common in other non-SG-focussed forums. I think erection has handled it pretty OK and is manning up to the issue -- kudos to him. Ram did not handle it well, and he burnt himself, but that is what Ram deserved IMO (i know many would disagree wif me).
If you notice I tried not to add to wat is being said about erection but tried to steer the discussion to broader topics like our SG culture which robs many pple of their good sense and their manners/social etiquette. I am sure erection is a really nice man in person. Net etiquette is not less complex than real life etiquette; even the most well-adjusted inidividual makes mistakes sometimes. I would give erection the benefit of the doubt and certainly a lot more leeway than say, the sad fucks like clinton.
1. People have different views on what is acceptable or not, what is irritating or annoying. That's fine, but both sides have to respect each other's views, otherwise how do we decide? The side which writes better wins? Or the side which writes more?
Then again, we actually have in this forum certain posts which absolutely NOBODY accepts. Wy aren't we going for those first and dealing with them?
2. The manner which we voice our objections also plays a key part. Looking at the "Bob Sim naked" thread again, perhaps everyone could have said it better and without getting so worked up.
3. Especially with the government we have had for years, many in this forum inevitably get angry when something is prescribed or dictated. Should try to focus on those things that are so blatantly wrong. For me, it's when innocent people are harmed or killed when they are going about their own business, e.g. trying to make a living, or walking on the pavement going for dinner. How did a bunch of guys laughing over a repetitive gay joke get to be the bane of this forum?
