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Forget about Job Credit Scheme

sinren67

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On one hand, says Singaporeans First by intoduced Jobs Credit Scheme, but on the other, allowing more foreigners to be PR. A typical PAP's way.

Noted, in coming GE.

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Rush for PR status
More foreigners are applying for PR status for fear of losing their jobs during recession
By Cassandra Chew

SNAKING lines starting in the wee hours outside the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) are now a common sight as more foreigners clamour for permanent residency here.

From as early as 11pm the night before, they start queueing at the entrance of Lavender MRT station. Hailing from countries like India, China, the Philippines, Malaysia and Myanmar, most are desperately vying for a spot in the permanent resident (PR) application processing queue.

By 3am on Jan 24, at least 10 individuals were already gathered there.

They laid out newspapers to lie on and sipped coffee from a nearby 24-hour coffee shop to stay awake. Several came with company so their friends could hold their spot while they took toilet breaks.

By 5.30am, the informal queue had swelled to about 60 people. As if in a group march, they collectively crossed the street from the MRT station to the official ICA queue post, which had just opened, in an orderly fashion.

By 8am, the line had snaked around ICA's Kallang Road building, with over 220 people in it.

A random poll of 20 people in the queue showed that 15 were there to apply for PR. Others were there for visa matters, like the renewal of long-term visit passes.

When ICA's doors opened at 8am, the PR hopefuls rushed into the building, scurrying into lifts or rushing up four flights of escalators to the fifth floor where the PR Services Centre is located.

Each time The Sunday Times visited on Jan 2, Jan 7 and Jan 24, all queue tickets for PR applicants were snapped up within 15 minutes.

Newspaper vendor Ye Yibin, 69, who has been manning a stall by the MRT station for five years, said the lines started growing longer about a year ago but have surged since last November. 'Before, there would be a few people at 6am, but now the lines are much longer. Many of them gather from 2am and use my stools,' she said.

Labour watchers say one reason for the desperation of these PR applicants is the recession. Foreigners who fear for their jobs are making a beeline to apply for PR so they can remain here in case they get axed.

Employment pass, S-pass and work permit holders can remain in Singapore for between seven and 14 days if they lose their jobs. Personalised employment pass holders can remain unemployed here for up to six months, while PRs can remain here until their five-year re-entry permit expires.

Nanyang Technological University economics professor Choy Keen Meng said: 'The rush makes sense because employment pass holders are at high risk of retrenchment during a recession. If they want to stick around, having a PR would mean they won't be repatriated.'

Most of those standing in line overnight know that PR applicants have the option of using ICA's e-appointment system to secure a spot in the processing queue, but they said the waiting time for e-appointments is too long.

A 44-year-old exhibitions manager, who would give his name only as Alan, had been waiting in line since 12.30am on Jan 7. The Singaporean said he visited ICA's e-appointment website after he failed to obtain a queue ticket on Jan 6, but found that the next available appointment was on March 10.

He was there to submit the PR application of his Vietnamese wife of nine years. Permanent residency would allow her to work and supplement their household income. A three-month wait would mean three months of income lost.

This was also why China national Lin Wenhai, 33, arrived at 11pm the day before to queue for his ticket.

'Having PR would give me a sense of security here, and would also enable me to bring my parents, wife and daughter in Fujian over,' said the factory worker who has been here for five years.

Mr Lin, like many others in line, left his family in search of a better future here, and hopes to be reunited with them soon.

In response to queries from The Sunday Times, ICA would only say that while there is no set limit to the number of queue tickets given out daily to PR applicants, limited resources mean it can only process a certain number of applications on any given day. This is why it places a limit on the number of applications it accepts each day.

The ICA spokesman added that the success of PR applications is not based on the timing of their submission, but that the applications are considered on individual merit. As of last October, Singapore has 478,200 PRs.

Since the e-appointment system's launch in March last year, ICA officers have periodically used tablet PCs to assist those in the queues with the online booking process.

'PR applicants are strongly encouraged to make use of the e-appointment system to book an available date that best suits their schedule and which assures minimal waiting time,' he said.

[email protected]




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In an economic downturn, should permanent residency be given out freely?


Interest of Singaporeans key

'Our population policy must strike a balance between encouraging Singaporeans to have more babies, and granting PR to foreign talent. This policy should remain consistent in both good and bad economic times. We must constantly attract talent to increase the competitiveness of our workforce and economy so as to achieve sustainable growth. The interest of Singaporeans is always accorded priority over permanent residents for all matters. We should always seek synergies between Singaporeans and PRs to grow our economy which in turn will benefit more Singaporeans.'
DR TEO HO PIN, chair of the Government Parliamentary Committee for Law and Home Affairs



Foreigners contribute too

'I have accomplished a lot in my career, I have designed buildings that are now completed. I am not the type of person to snatch something from others. I am here because I know I can benefit from this country and this country can benefit from me.'
MR JOSE ROMERO, 30, architect from Antipolo City, the Philippines, who is applying for PR here



Sustaining the population

'Singapore's total fertility rate is one of the lowest among the developed countries, standing at 1.29 in 2007. To have a sustainable population, we need to continue to encourage marriage and parenthood, engage our overseas Singaporeans, and facilitate the naturalisation and integration of suitable foreigners, regardless of good or bad economic times.'
NATIONAL POPULATION SECRETARIAT SPOKESMAN



Improve our human capital

'In the next months, I expect the number of foreigners working in Singapore to shrink...In releasing foreign manpower to their home countries, we must however maintain a sense of fairness and responsibility. Whatever the economic conditions, some of our foreign manpower do stay on as PRs or citizens. Competition for talent is global and will intensify once the economic crisis blows over. We all stand to gain through improvements in the stock of Singapore's human capital. In other words, we still cannot afford to ignore our longer needs.'
MRS JOSEPHINE TEO, assistant secretary-general of National Trades Union Congress
 
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Qinhuang

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This crisis has proven that all PAP bastards, PAP skunks, PAP sluts, PAP dogs are all behind foreigners.

Aftermath of Ong KC's heroic act, the old monkey is seeking revenge on local singaporeans.

Local voters who keep putting PAP in power will see their coffins very soon.

Deities help singapore!
 

jw5

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Just vote a few of them out at the polls.
I can bet you those still around will reduce the number of foreigners immediately and start to put citizens first.
 

sinren67

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This crisis has proven that all PAP bastards, PAP skunks, PAP sluts, PAP dogs are all behind foreigners.

Aftermath of Ong KC's heroic act, the old monkey is seeking revenge on local singaporeans.

Local voters who keep putting PAP in power will see their coffins very soon.

Deities help singapore!

You just need a FT to apply PR through "e-appointment" within minutes - and that will break the rice bowl and affect a family of 4 which in turn kneel down at WDA, CDCs and Meet-the-people session to beg for job and financial help. That's what the PAP's intention - to threaten and fix the locals.
 

khunking

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Do the scholars lack common sense? Is there a scientific formula for common sense out there? It's like adding more thinner to the fire.


Aftermath of Ong KC's heroic act, the old monkey is seeking revenge on local singaporeans.
 

streetcry

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all the fcuking foreigners get out of singapore! singapore for singaporean only. fcuking you pap. NS for singaporean, jobs for FT, knnbpcb!!
 

Man in the streets

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KNN!
The old fart and his asshole son wants sinkapore to be competitive, low salaries for workers but boost sinkapore first world country. How to ?

PAP baboons should lower the living standard, abolish NS, and lower the HDB price down 40 to 50% new or resale if they want to make sinkapore competitive.

KNN! How can we have millionaire -PAP MPs and only top 10% of the dogs drawing millions and millions while the 90% must behave like third world peasants in first world country.

The Monkey familee deserves more than hell ! KNNCCB Familee
!
 

myfoot123

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Knowing such trend is not in favour of Singaporean workers. I suggest all NTUC members do a massive quit from being a member to show signal of our unhappiness.

You think govt care whether Singaporean got job or not? I see pap are more worried there is no more CPF in the coffer so they try to give out more PR status because PR has to contribute to CPF unlike EP, WP or S pass holders who need not contribut to CPF Board. Ultimately, it is pap pocket money they care about and not the livelihood of all jobless Singaporean.

We urge all HR and employers to give Singaporean all the jobs they have and not to PR. This practices have to change due to surge in PRs now.
 

Tiu-leh-see-fart

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The evil deed behind this easy PR given out FTs is to fake a demand for HDB flats so the HDB price remains very high to justify their high salaries.

No PRs, HDB price will collapse, when HDB price collapses, the CPF paper money is gone. So asset rich is a solace. HDB leaseholders still believe they have worthy HDB flats which is an illusion. They have lost their CPF they didnt notice.

NO PRs or new citizens, PAP will kaput or implode.

But let us not lose heart, Kuan Yew cannot be immortal whether he replaces his blood with young NS man blood, his engine is due.

His demise will soon bring change to singapore for the better.

At the meantime, let us curse the PAP MPs and the running dogs. Their days are numbered.
How long more can they lie.

Just remember that with huge foreigners in singapore, it does not mean singapore is free from disaster, or protest, the undercurrent bombs are going to explode.

let us also hope the economic crisis will be deep and long(10 years of no growth), so we can know singapore is having a huge reserves the old man has claimed.

Singapore is getting more exciting, PAP MPs now have to look back more often every time they wayangly walk their wards.

Sit back and enjoy the Lee clown merrying his party
 

Hope

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On one hand, says Singaporeans First by intoduced Jobs Credit Scheme, but on the other, allowing more foreigners to be PR. A typical PAP's way.

Noted, in coming GE.

<a href="http://www.imagefilez.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.imagefilez.com/out.php/i330289_prq.jpg">

Rush for PR status
More foreigners are applying for PR status for fear of losing their jobs during recession
By Cassandra Chew

SNAKING lines starting in the wee hours outside the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) are now a common sight as more foreigners clamour for permanent residency here.

From as early as 11pm the night before, they start queueing at the entrance of Lavender MRT station. Hailing from countries like India, China, the Philippines, Malaysia and Myanmar, most are desperately vying for a spot in the permanent resident (PR) application processing queue.

By 3am on Jan 24, at least 10 individuals were already gathered there.

They laid out newspapers to lie on and sipped coffee from a nearby 24-hour coffee shop to stay awake. Several came with company so their friends could hold their spot while they took toilet breaks.

By 5.30am, the informal queue had swelled to about 60 people. As if in a group march, they collectively crossed the street from the MRT station to the official ICA queue post, which had just opened, in an orderly fashion.

By 8am, the line had snaked around ICA's Kallang Road building, with over 220 people in it.

A random poll of 20 people in the queue showed that 15 were there to apply for PR. Others were there for visa matters, like the renewal of long-term visit passes.

When ICA's doors opened at 8am, the PR hopefuls rushed into the building, scurrying into lifts or rushing up four flights of escalators to the fifth floor where the PR Services Centre is located.

Each time The Sunday Times visited on Jan 2, Jan 7 and Jan 24, all queue tickets for PR applicants were snapped up within 15 minutes.

Newspaper vendor Ye Yibin, 69, who has been manning a stall by the MRT station for five years, said the lines started growing longer about a year ago but have surged since last November. 'Before, there would be a few people at 6am, but now the lines are much longer. Many of them gather from 2am and use my stools,' she said.

Labour watchers say one reason for the desperation of these PR applicants is the recession. Foreigners who fear for their jobs are making a beeline to apply for PR so they can remain here in case they get axed.

Employment pass, S-pass and work permit holders can remain in Singapore for between seven and 14 days if they lose their jobs. Personalised employment pass holders can remain unemployed here for up to six months, while PRs can remain here until their five-year re-entry permit expires.

Nanyang Technological University economics professor Choy Keen Meng said: 'The rush makes sense because employment pass holders are at high risk of retrenchment during a recession. If they want to stick around, having a PR would mean they won't be repatriated.'

Most of those standing in line overnight know that PR applicants have the option of using ICA's e-appointment system to secure a spot in the processing queue, but they said the waiting time for e-appointments is too long.

A 44-year-old exhibitions manager, who would give his name only as Alan, had been waiting in line since 12.30am on Jan 7. The Singaporean said he visited ICA's e-appointment website after he failed to obtain a queue ticket on Jan 6, but found that the next available appointment was on March 10.

He was there to submit the PR application of his Vietnamese wife of nine years. Permanent residency would allow her to work and supplement their household income. A three-month wait would mean three months of income lost.

This was also why China national Lin Wenhai, 33, arrived at 11pm the day before to queue for his ticket.

'Having PR would give me a sense of security here, and would also enable me to bring my parents, wife and daughter in Fujian over,' said the factory worker who has been here for five years.

Mr Lin, like many others in line, left his family in search of a better future here, and hopes to be reunited with them soon.

In response to queries from The Sunday Times, ICA would only say that while there is no set limit to the number of queue tickets given out daily to PR applicants, limited resources mean it can only process a certain number of applications on any given day. This is why it places a limit on the number of applications it accepts each day.

The ICA spokesman added that the success of PR applications is not based on the timing of their submission, but that the applications are considered on individual merit. As of last October, Singapore has 478,200 PRs.

Since the e-appointment system's launch in March last year, ICA officers have periodically used tablet PCs to assist those in the queues with the online booking process.

'PR applicants are strongly encouraged to make use of the e-appointment system to book an available date that best suits their schedule and which assures minimal waiting time,' he said.

[email protected]




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


In an economic downturn, should permanent residency be given out freely?


Interest of Singaporeans key

'Our population policy must strike a balance between encouraging Singaporeans to have more babies, and granting PR to foreign talent. This policy should remain consistent in both good and bad economic times. We must constantly attract talent to increase the competitiveness of our workforce and economy so as to achieve sustainable growth. The interest of Singaporeans is always accorded priority over permanent residents for all matters. We should always seek synergies between Singaporeans and PRs to grow our economy which in turn will benefit more Singaporeans.'
DR TEO HO PIN, chair of the Government Parliamentary Committee for Law and Home Affairs



Foreigners contribute too

'I have accomplished a lot in my career, I have designed buildings that are now completed. I am not the type of person to snatch something from others. I am here because I know I can benefit from this country and this country can benefit from me.'
MR JOSE ROMERO, 30, architect from Antipolo City, the Philippines, who is applying for PR here



Sustaining the population

'Singapore's total fertility rate is one of the lowest among the developed countries, standing at 1.29 in 2007. To have a sustainable population, we need to continue to encourage marriage and parenthood, engage our overseas Singaporeans, and facilitate the naturalisation and integration of suitable foreigners, regardless of good or bad economic times.'
NATIONAL POPULATION SECRETARIAT SPOKESMAN



Improve our human capital

'In the next months, I expect the number of foreigners working in Singapore to shrink...In releasing foreign manpower to their home countries, we must however maintain a sense of fairness and responsibility. Whatever the economic conditions, some of our foreign manpower do stay on as PRs or citizens. Competition for talent is global and will intensify once the economic crisis blows over. We all stand to gain through improvements in the stock of Singapore's human capital. In other words, we still cannot afford to ignore our longer needs.'
MRS JOSEPHINE TEO, assistant secretary-general of National Trades Union Congress
MInister Tharman appears to be a very poor mathematician.

Job credit scheme:

GLCs-40%
MNCs-40%

SMEs-20%

So mInister Tharman talks about helping our workers but give free money to RICH Ang Mohs and Government,and 66.67% all claim that he was such a wonderful guy,you believe?
 

Lestat

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MInister Tharman appears to be a very poor mathematician.

Job credit scheme:

GLCs-40%
MNCs-40%

SMEs-20%

So mInister Tharman talks about helping our workers but give free money to RICH Ang Mohs and Government,and 66.67% all claim that he was such a wonderful guy,you believe?

SMEs who are employing 90% of the workforce in Singapore and "thama" is giving only 20% of the budget?!? WTF is he thinking???

Sidetrack: I thought the job credit scheme is only applicable for citizens only? So if you give more PR, it doesn't matter, at this point of time, no?
 
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