First dengue death: He waited 5 hours at TTSH's emergency department, says mum

from own experience, entered GH A&E 1.00 AM - admitted and seen by doctor 7.30 AM
 
No need to to carry an IC or cash. Many people seem willing to give him an extra egg or two for free.

It is perfectly acceptable for people who are important to the nation to be given priority.
 
I have done a comparison and waiting times in Singapore are similar to those in NY. Emergency services are always stretched in any country. I waited 10 hours in Auckland when I broke my ankle. ...


A broken ankle may be painful but you probably had to wait because they had more serious cases to attent to.

I use to go to the emergency room in Edmonton to change my dressing for a post surgical infection. Must have gone there everyday for 3+ weeks. I did try to do it at home but the doctor was concerned because it was a very deep incision. Just imagine going everyday & waiting 3 to 4 hours just to change a dressing:o

I was always surprised by the number of emergency cases the hospital had everyday. Even on sundays.
I knew that my case was not life threatening so I had no problem with the waiting.
 
More sinkies drop dead la.
Many people every little thing also go A&E so the fact these people can wait so long means its not life threatening.
Too bad dengue guy dropped dead....so many thousands dengue cases only 1 peasant died....it's acceptable odds la
 
A broken ankle may be painful but you probably had to wait because they had more serious cases to attent to.

I fully understand that and I did not complain. While I was waiting, many bloodied bodies and old folks who looked close to death were attended to first and that is the way it should be.

When it comes to viral infections, it is very difficult for emergency departments to classify exactly how serious the case is. Wrong calls are sometimes made. It's simply a fact of life.
 
A broken ankle may be painful but you probably had to wait because they had more serious cases to attent to.

I use to go to the emergency room in Edmonton to change my dressing for a post surgical infection. Must have gone there everyday for 3+ weeks. I did try to do it at home but the doctor was concerned because it was a very deep incision. Just imagine going everyday & waiting 3 to 4 hours just to change a dressing:o

I was always surprised by the number of emergency cases the hospital had everyday. Even on sundays.
I knew that my case was not life threatening so I had no problem with the waiting.
I had a surgery two years ago. Post ops changing of dressing usually wait around half hour so long as you are punctual.

A&E at night is especially bad as grossly insufficient medical staff. Too few medical staff for such a large population.
 
It is perfectly acceptable for people who are important to the nation to be given priority.

I was waiting at a long queue for a taxi. Some people decided to pay the extra by calling for a taxi. As a consumer you can decide to spend $ to cut queue.

However in the case of medical care where lifes are at risk the question of morality come into question. Should preference be given if you are wealthier:confused: Non private hospitals should be providing care based on need & not on who the patients are.

People like LKY is nothing more than an overpaid freeloader. They are using more healthcare resources than your typical "lesser mortal"
 
Non private hospitals should be providing care based on need & not on who the patients are.

Talk is cheap. If one of your children had to wait at A&E because a convicted pedophile rapist had attempted suicide in prison had to be attended to first based on need, you'd be singing a different tune. If your kid died as a result, you'd be up in arms against the system you now prescribe to.

All systems have a pecking order. In NZ, if you're over 60, you drop off the waiting list for a transplant. Discrimination against the old or simply a pragmatic policy of not wasting precious organs on the elderly?
 
...When it comes to viral infections, it is very difficult for emergency departments to classify exactly how serious the case is. Wrong calls are sometimes made. It's simply a fact of life.


This case might have been attended to sooner if Spore was not so overcrowded:confused:

We are all paying the price for the PAP's population policy. The PAP will of course deny this. It's just another "honest mistake" .
 
This case might have been attended to sooner if Spore was not so overcrowded:confused:

We are all paying the price for the PAP's population policy. The PAP will of course deny this. It's just another "honest mistake" .

All policies have their upsides and downsides.

The tangible benefits of the population policy far outweigh the negative effects.
 
The waiting time for the victim was bad. The wrong diagnosis was worse as they just put him on a drip and send him home.he shold have been placed under observation n did a blood test etc.

One way to end overcrowding is all PRs and foreigners when they enter public hospitals and poly clinics is to pay full price. Subsidies are only for citizens. Tat way they will go to private hospitals n not clogged up the public ones. My fren had a heart attack in php during his holiday. The hospital wanted upfront payment before admitting him. No free rides. So to treat other foreigners the same way is more than fair.
 
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Talk is cheap. If one of your children had to wait at A&E because a convicted pedophile rapist had attempted suicide in prison had to be attended to first based on need, you'd be singing a different tune. If your kid died as a result, you'd be up in arms against the system you now prescribe to.

All systems have a pecking order. In NZ, if you're over 60, you drop off the waiting list for a transplant. Discrimination against the old or simply a pragmatic policy of not wasting precious organs on the elderly?


All system have some kind of rationing system. In Spore it is pretty straightforward. Elites & their relations get priority. Is this a fairer system:confused:

In the west it is based on age. If you are wealthy you can always go to Spore, right? I'm sure that even Sporeans would agree about the age thing. Would you give a transplant to a younger person or a 60 year old? A 60 year old will not have much time left as a tyounger person. Just look at LKY what has he actually contributed since he reached 60?

Do remember that as a 60 year old, one would have enjoyed the same policy favouring the young over the old during their youth.
 
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All policies have their upsides and downsides.

The tangible benefits of the population policy far outweigh the negative effects.


The MRT line is breaking down. People are dying in our hospitals. We are drinking recylcled water....

During Spore's golden age we had a population of 2 to 2.5 million. Now we probably have over 5+ million people here. What are the "tangible" benefits:confused:
 
The MRT line is breaking down. People are dying in our hospitals. We are drinking recylcled water....

During Spore's golden age we had a population of 2 to 2.5 million. Now we probably have over 5+ million people here. What are the "tangible" benefits:confused:

The suffering of peasants is not an issue for those who live a comfortable existence.
 
The MRT line is breaking down. People are dying in our hospitals. We are drinking recylcled water....

During Spore's golden age we had a population of 2 to 2.5 million. Now we probably have over 5+ million people here. What are the "tangible" benefits:confused:

The tangible benefits are in the wealth creation and the booming economy. Just look at the GDP and numerous other indices. All of them point to the fact that Singapore is one of the wealthiest nations in the world.
 
The suffering of peasants is not an issue for those who live a comfortable existence.

There will always be losers in society no matter what sort of welfare system is in place. That's because humans aren't born equal and no amount of social engineering is going to create equality and fairness.

We live in the real world not some Utopia.
 
When you adopt a P&L approach to a traditional public sector function in the name of efficiency, this is the price that you pay. The only child of a vegetable vendor who was due to serve NS the following day.

The ruling govt and the elite will not grasp and are not in position to grasp as their families know the best medical practitioners, have access to the best and can pay for the best. Yet we depend on vegetable vendors to our daily existence.

Imagine the Dengue campaign was launched last week, the threat had so much coverage in the press, the local scientists predicated an unprecedented rise in these cases, the cabinet minister and the labour chief cited the campaign where citizens and the authorities coming together as a new model of engagement and now this .

The kid did not die of an exotic illness. The Kid had sought treatment more than once.

To me this fucking coroner's inquiry is very important. If not come 2016, there will be a price to pay.
 
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The ruling govt and the elite will not grasp and are not in position to grasp as their families know the best medical practitioners, have access to the best and can pay for the best. Yet we depend on vegetable vendors to our daily existence.

You're being ridiculous. Nowhere in the world is there a political system that treats the son of a vegetable vendor in exactly the same way as the son of a government minister.
 
I tend to agree with you had an appendix infection and was told to go to TTSH by the local OPD. When I was there it was so crowded and understaff that they do not have space in any wards for me so they put me along the corridor till a bed was vacant for me. In the meantime those prc and pinoy nurses did bother come and check on me every 6hrs to see if I am still alive :p
 
I wanted urgent appointment due to emergence of cataract n pressured eyeballs
Reception told me the nearest date is NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!

I said by then I will be blind!

Eventually got treatment by private eye surgeon......... cost a bomb but no choice leh
 
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