Everybody! Vote for Tan Cheng Bock

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He is a man of principle, has his own mind and fights for his people. Look at these videos http://www.youtube.com/user/drtanchengbock , there are truths in what he said. He won't be a PAP robot. I believe he has his own values and will make a difference as the president.

Tony Tan will be another PAP controlled president like the past presidents. He has never fought for his people because he is too rich and soft. His smooth ride in PAP is due to the fact that his family is very rich and powerful, they own OCBC bank.

Tan Kin Lian is not very well educated. During his reign in NTUC Income, nobody likes him because he doesn't trust his staff and micro-manage everything. Even my NTUC insurance policy letter got his blog on it. (I didn't work in NTUC at all, as a customer, I sense that he was controlling everything) He is not polished and will eventually be another yes man because that's what he is when he was CEO of NTUC.

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Okay, Dr Tan. I hear you. You've been unhappy with many PAP policies, but chose to remain a PAP MP for donkey years.

I ask you something, Dr Tan. You've been selling to Singaporeans as if "being unhappy or disagreeing with PAP policies is a great thing". Bear in mind Mr Low Thia Khiang and JB Jeyeratnam were also unhappy with PAP policies.

So what is the difference between your reaction to PAP unjust policies compared to Mr Low or the late JBJ ?

Dr Tan, I see little difference between you and ex-Minister Lim Boon Heng who cried on national TV that he disagreed with PAP building two casinos in Singapore.

Being unhappy or disagreeing with PAP policies is no big deal, Dr Tan. 40% of Singaporeans disagree with PAP. It's your reaction that matters. You kept the MP allowance you obtained under PAP banner nevertheless. Am I right ?

 

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Okay, Dr Tan. I hear you. You've been unhappy with many PAP policies, but chose to remain a PAP MP for donkey years.

I ask you something, Dr Tan. You've been selling to Singaporeans as if "being unhappy or disagreeing with PAP policies is a great thing". Bear in mind Mr Low Thia Khiang and JB Jeyeratnam were also unhappy with PAP policies.

So what is the difference between your reaction to PAP unjust policies compared to Mr Low or the late JBJ ?

Dr Tan, I see little difference between you and ex-Minister Lim Boon Heng who cried on national TV that he disagreed with PAP building two casinos in Singapore.

Being unhappy or disagreeing with PAP policies is no big deal, Dr Tan. 40% of Singaporeans disagree with PAP. It's your reaction that matters. You kept the MP allowance you obtained under PAP banner nevertheless. Am I right ?

Well, there is no WP candidates running for presidency, so there is nothing to compare, is it. All the 3 candidates are from PAP, so u have to choose the best one to represent the poor souls like us.

TCB is different from Lim Hng Kiang. He is a strong character, won't cry in public like sissy Lim. TCB is not a minister, not drawing millions, just MP allowance. Choose the best person that can represent you out of the available bunch, don't talk about ideal bec u got no ideal choice.

 

[Conqueror]

Still Don't Understand The Logic Behind

He's once a PAP dog, right ? What kind of choice is that ?

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Well, there is no WP candidates running for presidency, so there is nothing to compare, is it. All the 3 candidates are from PAP, so u have to choose the best one to represent the poor souls like us.

TCB is different from Lim Hng Kiang. He is a strong character, won't cry in public like sissy Lim. TCB is not a minister, not drawing millions, just MP allowance. Choose the best person that can represent you out of the available bunch, don't talk about ideal bec u got no ideal choice.

You will have to eat your words and apply the same yardstick and call Tan Cheng Bok a sissy.

And remember, the point is not Low or JBJ is running for presidency. It's all about one's reaction to unjust PAP policies.

Stop selling to Singaporeans that you disagree with PAP policies. If you don't have the will to leave the party whose policies you disagree so much, at least don't blame the whip.

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Lets not forget Dr Tan Cheng Bok supported PAP's detention of a group of innocent Singaporeans accused of a bogus Marxist plot. You think he has a mind of his own independent of PAP? Read Dr Tan Cheng Bok's words in verbatim:

"I believed the information that was given to me from the government at that time. I saw that the people believed that they were conspirators as well. As Feedback Unit Chief, I could not let my own feelings dilute the general consensus, which I presented in Parliament."

This was how presidential aspirant Dr Tan Cheng Bock explained his support of the PAP's detention of a group of activists in 1987 for being part of an alleged Marxist-conspiracy.

 

[hairylee]

Just don't vote for Tony Tan.
This one is the top dog.

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Just don't vote for Tony Tan.
This one is the top dog.

I agree that Tony Tan is the worst choice. But for goodness sake just don't portray Dr Tan Cheng Bok as some maverick. Dr Tan Cheng Bok is not.

"I believed the information that was given to me from the government at that time. I saw that the people believed that they were conspirators as well. As Feedback Unit Chief, I could not let my own feelings dilute the general consensus, which I presented in Parliament."

So what was Dr Tan Cheng Bok's own feelings ? He started off by saying that he believed the government. And that he said the people believed the government. And then he spoke about his own feelings. Didn't he just mention that he believed the government ? His own feelings was that he believed the government's accusation that the activists were guilty.

So what was his own feelings that could have changed the plight of those innocent activists ? He didn't want to bear responsibility for singing the same tune with the government. So he decided to have 'the people' share the blame as if if not for the people's belief, he would have made a different decision based on his own feelings.

This is the Tan Cheng Bok I have come to understand. He wants the best of both worlds. To reap the benefits of being in the PAP camp, but at the same time not wanting to associate himself with the shit that comes with PAP.

 

[ruffles]

TCB's positioning doesn't stand out.

TCB is stuck between TKL (PAP disliked most) and TT (PAP endorsed candidate)

 

[annexa]

Another bias post. We can make our own decisions. No need to sing praises of one and hit at another one. This kind of threads only sabo the candidate you supposedly supports. Unless you are a mole here to sabo the candidate you just "supported".

 

[Forvendet]

I'll vote TT. He had walked in and out of PAP cabinet as he was pleased or displeased, as I've pointed out in other postings. He's never been afraid of or beholden to LKY, GCT and LHL, much less the others of PAP. I believe that he'll be another OTC who could voice out when needed to. LKY and GCT ran to him for help during times of troubles like anti-terrorist crisis and GIC investment mess. He doesn't need the money and he's untouchable, even beyond the knuckleduster and hatchet of LKY. He's the only one out of the three whom I can believe who's standing for public service and national interests. He also knows GIC inside out. There's no way of smokescreening him like what they did to OTC. I believe that he'll be another OTC, but also with greater advantage and effect.

 

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Re: Still Don't Understand The Logic Behind

He's once a PAP dog, right ? What kind of choice is that ?

All 3 of them are PAP dogs, so what are you going to do? Spoil your vote?

 

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I'll vote TT. He had walked in and out of PAP cabinet as he was pleased or displeased, as I've pointed out in other postings. He's never been afraid of or beholden to LKY, GCT and LHL, much less the others of PAP. I believe that he'll be another OTC who could voice out when needed to. LKY and GCT ran to him for help during times of troubles like anti-terrorist crisis and GIC investment mess. He doesn't need the money and he's untouchable, even beyond the knuckleduster and hatchet of LKY. He's the only one out of the three whom I can believe who's standing for public service and national interests. He also knows GIC inside out. There's no way of smokescreening him like what they did to OTC. I believe that he'll be another OTC, but also with greater advantage and effect.

TT will be another prataman. He just wants the presidency because it feels good for him. He will be on top of everything in terms of salary, and just cruise around like Nathan.

 

[wikiphile]

I'll vote TT. He had walked in and out of PAP cabinet as he was pleased or displeased, as I've pointed out in other postings. He's never been afraid of or beholden to LKY, GCT and LHL, much less the others of PAP. I believe that he'll be another OTC who could voice out when needed to. LKY and GCT ran to him for help during times of troubles like anti-terrorist crisis and GIC investment mess. He doesn't need the money and he's untouchable, even beyond the knuckleduster and hatchet of LKY. He's the only one out of the three whom I can believe who's standing for public service and national interests. He also knows GIC inside out. There's no way of smokescreening him like what they did to OTC. I believe that he'll be another OTC, but also with greater advantage and effect.

i'm going to disagree with you vehemently. Like TT, Nathan doesn't need the money too (40million is quite a lot to bring to the grave) and he knew the workings of the government well. We had 12 lame duck president years under him, i'll be damned and double damned to see another 12 like this knowing we could stop PAP in their tracks this year

 

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Look at the eyes of the 3 men. Which one is the most trustworthy? The eyes is the window to the soul.

TKL cannot stop blinking. TT is always smiling. Only TCB, I can see that he has more compassion and trustworthiness compared to the other two.

Of cos, I wished that JB Jeyaratnam can run for president, but.... So make the best decision among the not so good choices available to us.

 

[Perspective]

I'll vote TT. He had walked in and out of PAP cabinet as he was pleased or displeased, as I've pointed out in other postings. He's never been afraid of or beholden to LKY, GCT and LHL, much less the others of PAP. I believe that he'll be another OTC who could voice out when needed to. LKY and GCT ran to him for help during times of troubles like anti-terrorist crisis and GIC investment mess. He doesn't need the money and he's untouchable, even beyond the knuckleduster and hatchet of LKY. He's the only one out of the three whom I can believe who's standing for public service and national interests. He also knows GIC inside out. There's no way of smokescreening him like what they did to OTC. I believe that he'll be another OTC, but also with greater advantage and effect.

I disagree. OTC was a rare surprise. I think he surprised even himself. Such surprises don't occur so often among the ranks of PAP fellas who have been made not to bite back at their masters. The higher they are the more under the system they will be.

You expect the only 2 former PAP ministers both to bite back at the PAP government? Understanding the law of probability, what makes you think the probability is high. Maybe after 10 more PAP ministers become President, another OTC will emerge.

But I find it interesting that you are a TT supporter and not TKL.

 

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Another bias post. We can make our own decisions. No need to sing praises of one and hit at another one. This kind of threads only sabo the candidate you supposedly supports. Unless you are a mole here to sabo the candidate you just "supported".

Of cos I am biased towards the candidate I like. At first, I liked TKL, but then when he scored an own goal by saying that TT is a good candidate and also suggested that everybody make way for TT, I lost hope. He is just frightened.

 

[red amoeba]

Look at the eyes of the 3 men. Which one is the most trustworthy? The eyes is the window to the soul.

TKL cannot stop blinking. TT is always smiling. Only TCB, I can see that he has more compassion and trustworthiness compared to the other two.

Of cos, I wished that JB Jeyaratnam can run for president, but.... So make the best decision among the not so good choices available to us.

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JBJ? I can guarantee plus chop that he will be found not qualified to stand as a candidate...if he was to run for president.

 

[Perspective]

Re: Still Don't Understand The Logic Behind

All 3 of them are PAP dogs, so what are you going to do? Spoil your vote?

Yes I will spoil my vote. This is to vote against:

1) The 3 qualified people who are all from PAP.
2) The entire system where only PAP people naturally qualify. When the laws were drawn up, it was meant to be that way.
3) A system where a President has no power still has to be elected by us. Waste of time.
4) Even if the President had power, it would be silly as Parliament is the executive and check and balance.

 

[hairylee]

Re: Still Don't Understand The Logic Behind

Yes I will spoil my vote. This is to vote against:

1) The 3 qualified people who are all from PAP.
2) The entire system where only PAP people naturally qualify. When the laws were drawn up, it was meant to be that way.
3) A system where a President has no power still has to be elected by us. Waste of time.
4) Even if the President had power, it would be silly as Parliament is the executive and check and balance.

This is a stupid thing to do. You have only one vote. Exercise it. Though all three are PAP dogs of various shade, vote for one that can be a pain in their ass. They have screwed you for years and like they said since the President is just ceremonial what difference does it make.