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Europe: Financial crisis spreads...!

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Europe debt crisis spreads to Portugal
Greek debt drops to junk status, Portugal's also downgraded; markets slide on fears of crisis

ATHENS (AP) -- Ratings agency Standard & Poor's pushed Greece to the brink of a financial abyss Tuesday and downgraded Portugal's debt, too, fueling fears of a continent-wide debt meltdown in Europe.

Stocks around the world tanked when Greek bonds were lowered to junk status and investors saw that Greece's financial contagion was spreading to at least one other eurozone country.

Major European exchanges fell more than 2.5 percent, and on Wall Street, the Dow Jones industrial average finished down more than 200 points. The euro slid more than 1 percent to nearly an eight-month low.

"We have the makings of a market crisis here," said Neil Mackinnon, global macro strategist at VTB Capital.

Greece is struggling with massive debt, and with prospects for economic growth weak it could end up in default. Its 15 eurozone partners and the International Monetary Fund have tried to calm the markets with a euro45 billion rescue package, but it hasn't worked.

Standard & Poor's warned that holders of Greek debt could take large losses in any restructuring, but a greater worry is that Greece's debt crisis is mushrooming to other debt-laden members of the eurozone.

One bailout can be dealt with but two will be stretching it, and there are fears that other weak economies could be pulled down in the Greek spiral -- including Europe's fifth-largest, Spain. Can Germany, Europe's effective paymaster, continue to bail out the weaker members of the eurozone?

The crisis threatens to undermine the euro and make it harder and more expensive for all eurozone governments to borrow money.
 
And we wake up in a sea of REDs this Wednesday morning. Everything Lau Sai!:(
 
Countries with high debt levels (other than US), especially the emerging market countries with high public debt will find it costly to borrow.

It is a good time to be sitting on a pile of cash.
 
I need to point out something.

Public debts and external debt (national debt) is two different matters.

Singapore used to misled the public that USA is high on public debt (It not even in the top 30 in the recent CIA ranking which singapore is so proud to use). It doesnt change the fact that USA is still a wealthy country.

Singapore is now ranked 6th poorest country for its extremely high public debts.

Both countries do not have any national debts.
 
That is because they owe the people big time under the CPF scheme.

It is too early to tell if this is a ponzi scheme because no one really know the really numbers.

If we are to take back every cents today from the CPF and they do not have enough money to pay us all, then this is a ponzi scheme

The fact that the keep pushing back the withdrawal age and come up with funny scheme to NOT return or DELAY return your CPF makes it even more fishier.

i wonder where did Ho Jinx get all the billions to burn like hell bank notes and they say it's not our money.



I need to point out something.

Public debts and external debt (national debt) is two different matters.

Singapore used to misled the public that USA is high on public debt (It not even in the top 30 in the recent CIA ranking which singapore is so proud to use). It doesnt change the fact that USA is still a wealthy country.

Singapore is now ranked 6th poorest country for its extremely high public debts.

Both countries do not have any national debts.
 
Countries with high debt levels (other than US), especially the emerging market countries with high public debt will find it costly to borrow.

It is a good time to be sitting on a pile of cash.

In what currency?
 
USD? btw, i know nuts abt all these, just want to pick up few lines to impress...:p

Countries with high debt levels (other than US), especially the emerging market countries with high public debt will find it costly to borrow.

It is a good time to be sitting on a pile of cash.
 
USD? btw, i know nuts abt all these, just want to pick up few lines to impress...:p

If USD, the stock market is crashing and bonds look precarious, do you guys mean offshore dollar deposits?
 
If USD, the stock market is crashing and bonds look precarious, do you guys mean offshore dollar deposits?

Domestic public debts are debts incurred in consumer expenses, e.g. mortgages, car loans, credit cards, overdrafts etc. These are always denominated in the domestic currency. However, in the case of a Euro country like Greece, their currency is the same Euro shared across many Eurozone countries, except notably UK.

Sovereign public debts are another matter. These are owed by governments in terms of bonds and other financial obligations that could be owed to domestic public creditors as well as foreign. These are usually measured in USD for international benchmarking.
 
They should ask Cristiano Ronaldo to bail out Portugal.
 
In what currency?

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