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end game for HK protests...

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Tianan part 2. At least they die fighting
If it's Tienanmen part 2 ah tiong land will have a harder time covering up. Unless they do a full information blackout n shut down the Internet than move in kill everyone quietly than open up again. Anyway HK has no future with ah tiong land unless they fully integrate into ah tiong northern society
 

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The tanks are already parked at the border. There is no win here. You can only hang on until the thugs bring in the tanks. Then other countries have to act.
 

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Inside the city caught between a British past and a Chinese future
By the ABC’s Asia Pacific Newsroom and Story Lab
Updated 13 Sep 2019, 5:05am
Published 13 Sep 2019, 3:03am
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To understand the situation, it’s important to recognise Hong Kong’s unique place in the history of China’s relations with the West.
Ceded to British rule amid the Opium Wars, Hong Kong became a British Territory in 1842, a time when the British Empire was ascendant and the Chinese were in decline.
In 1898, China agreed to lease the territories surrounding Hong Kong to the British for 99 years.
This agreement, signed by two empires that no longer exist, sowed the seeds for the unrest gripping the city today.
As Britain began its post-World War II retreat from its colonial outposts, Hong Kong remained a question mark, as the city had developed a unique identity that retained much of its Cantonese culture while embracing democratic values.
But as the lease’s deadline neared, the United Kingdom agreed to hand all of Hong Kong and its territories back to China on July 1, 1997, signalling a retreat from Asia and the end of the British Empire.
Dubbed the One Country, Two Systems policy, China promised that “Hong Kong’s capitalist system and way of life would remain unchanged for 50 years”.
But no framework or plan for what Beijing intended to do after 2047 was ever laid out.
From the get-go, Hongkongers have feared Beijing’s efforts to undermine democracy, and every year on July 1, protests have been held throughout the city.
Seen as the seat of China’s looming power, the Legislative Council where Hong Kong’s Government sits is often at the heart of unrest, along with the streets of commercial hub Causeway Bay.
In 2003, moves to enact a legal article seen as anti-subversive saw half a million people descend on Victoria Park.
In 2014, electoral reforms saw the city’s Admiralty district shut down in what was dubbed the Umbrella Revolution.
In March 2019, an extradition bill that would allow Beijing to summon alleged criminals to the mainland sparked protests from lawyers and activists.
But on June 9, the city’s long history of civil unrest against Beijing took an unprecedented turn.
Millions of people descended on Hong Kong’s streets over the following weeks, marching from Victoria Park to the Legislative Council, calling for the bill to be withdrawn.
The following white line represents the primary route protesters would usually take through central Hong Kong.
With the Government refusing to withdraw the bill, the unrest only grew in size and intensity as the city’s streets choked with tear gas as protesters responded with more hard-line approach.
On July 1, 2019, protesters stormed the Legislative Council for the first time in Hong Kong’s history, defacing symbols of Beijing rule.
Backed by Beijing, Hong Kong’s leaders made token concessions, but protesters doubled down with expanded demands, like universal suffrage and inquiries into Hong Kong’s police force.
Chief Executive Carrie Lam eventually conceded after months of brutal violence and formally withdrew the controversial extradition bill that sparked the protests.
“It is obvious that the discontentment in society extends far beyond the bill.”
Hong Kong’s history had boiled to the surface — and it is yet to be seen how Beijing will solve the situation.
‘Self-destruction’: One Country, Two Systems, and the countdown to 2047
For protesters, Hong Kong is the fight of their lives, but for mainland China the stakes are just as high.
The Chinese Government views Hong Kong, neighbouring Macau, and crucially Taiwan, as parts of China that should never have been separated.
The One Country, Two Systems principle conceived by former leader Deng Xiaoping for its two Special Administrative Regions — Hong Kong and Macau — is in many ways a political experiment to see whether Beijing can effectively oversee territories with conflicting ideologies.
The successful reunification of these territories is a key step in China regaining its place as the dominant political force in Asia and the world in the 21st century.
The model has been touted by China as a solution for the reunification of the Korean Peninsula, and other territorially conflicted areas like Israel and Palestine.
Many countries around the world are viewing this as a document of whether China can fulfil its potential as a superpower diplomatically. If it fails, it will set an alarming and undesirable precedent for Beijing.
The story of post-World War II Asia has been one of unparalleled economic growth, with China transitioning from developing country to economic world power at lightning speed.
But knowledge of the former Chinese Empire’s overpowering effect on the region still lingers, while memories of modern China’s iron-fisted handling of civil disobedience remain fresh.
China’s vast diaspora has broadcast the conflict on the international stage revealing divisions throughout Chinese communities across the globe, including here in Australia — many Chinese-Australians left their homes because of events like the Hong Kong handover, or the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.
Historically Beijing has been content to exercise influence through its control of the Legislative Council and its leadership, while distrustful Hongkongers have taken to the streets to make sure their demands are felt.
But the 2019 protests have demonstrated that the conflict will continue to be pushed into uncharted territory, as the intractable nature of the 50-year countdown becomes more apparent than ever.
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Highlighting the severity of the situation, the Chinese military entered the equation, releasing videos showing the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) crushing protesters to “protect Hong Kong”.
Meanwhile, its Hong Kong garrison headquarters warned that “all consequences were at protesters own risk” as Beijing threatened that activists were “asking for self-destruction”.
But both sides continued to engage in numerous proxy battles, as frontlines inched closer towards police and military station, while shutting down arterial points and stations like the Cross Harbour Tunnel.
Hong Kong’s Basic Law — the territory’s post-handover mini constitution — allows for a military intervention if a state of emergency is declared or if Hong Kong’s leaders request it, and many Chinese people have already shown support for such a move.
While experts maintain that a military intervention is unlikely or far off, Hong Kong has 18 garrisons and thousands of PLA troops stationed across the 1,100km2 territory, so the capacity to intervene is always on stand-by around the corner.
Despite this, increasingly targeted protests only grew as major transport hubs and the airport were shut down, guns were drawn and triad gangs entered the fray, while protesters called for the United States to intervene.
Across the border, the Shenzhen Sports Centre remained filled with personnel carriers and troops as Beijing’s state media warned “the end is coming”.
The Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office of the State Council is Beijing’s top body responsible for overseeing its special regions, and this year held an unprecedented number of meetings to discuss the matter.
“Hong Kong is facing the most severe situation since its handover,” director Zhang Xiaoming told a gathering of hundreds at an office across the border.
“Central authorities have ample methods and sufficient strength to promptly settle any turmoil should it occur.”
While Beijing could easily crush dissent by force and possibly brave the global repercussions, authorities have acknowledged that such an intervention could forever destroy the One Country, Two Systems policy along with Beijing’s superpower aspirations.
As 2047 ticks closer, pressure will continue to mount on Beijing to clearly outline its vision for the post-transition era, and short of a military intervention, both sides will have to make compromises.
But irrespective of which scenario plays out — concessions, protester and media fatigue, the repercussions of a choked up economy or a military intervention of some capacity — the story of Hong Kong remains a policy-defining experiment for Beijing, and a living document of the legacies of the British Empire in the century of the rise of China.
 

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Chinese Government hopes Hong Kong's 'silent majority' will bring pro-democracy protests to an end
By China correspondent Bill Birtles in Hong Kong
about 11 hours ago
William Cheung smiles as he stands in front of riot police wearing a blue Adidas singlet. He has grey hair and wears glasses.
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William Cheung looks like your average 62-year-old Hong Kong retiree, but he's also part of the pushback that China's Government hopes will bring the Hong Kong protests to an end.

Mr Cheung belongs to what Beijing says is the "silent majority" in the semi-autonomous city, who are increasingly appalled at the vandalism and violence of recent months.

"It's sickening, it's worrisome. People really feel bad that society is so split," said Mr Cheung while attending a pro-China rally in a shopping centre at Kowloon Bay, north of the city.

At least a hundred people wave Chinese flags as they look up during a packed demonstration at a mall.
PHOTO Critics of the pro-Government rallies have said some attendees are bussed in. ABC NEWS: STEVE WANG
Hundreds of mainly middle-aged demonstrators turned out waving Chinese flags, singing the national anthem and cheering on riot police.

They jeered counter-protesters, or "rioters" as they call them, and loudly cheered when several were chased down and taken away in handcuffs, after fist fights broke out between members of opposing camps.

"We call them cockroaches because they're despised by many of us here in Hong Kong.

"They are not making any contribution, they are destroying public utilities", said Mr Cheung.

Over the three months of protests, the demonstrators opposing a now-scrapped extradition plan for mainland China and pushing for more police scrutiny have brought out the largest crowds for rallies, sometimes in excess of a million people.

But pro-police rallies, which often include patriotic supporters of the Chinese Government, have at their peak mobilised tens of thousands — though organisers say they are much larger.

Critics of the pro-Government rallies say some attendees are bussed in from across the border in mainland China, something Mr Cheung concedes is possible judging from peoples' accents.

But in recent weeks, pro-China groups of local citizens have become more vocal — scaling a prominent lookout to wave the flag, and organising national anthem singalongs to respond to protesters who popularised a new anthem for Hong Kong.

"The news young people get from the media or their peers is biased," said Leo Chong, a surgeon who attended one of the rallies to support police.

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"Look at [popular media outlet] Apple Daily, it really is a spy paper, everything about China is negative," he said.

Others blame Hong Kong's education curriculum, saying it doesn't teach the younger generation enough about Chinese history, British colonialism or the achievements of the Communist Party, which are glorified in the mainland through a separate patriotic education curriculum.

"I think a lot of young people in Hong Kong misunderstand what's going on", said Mark Tam, a retired superintendent who now does business in the mainland.

"People say they don't support the judicial system in China but at least it's far better than in the past," he said.

'There are a lot of people supporting the country'
It's common to hear about generational gaps within families over the protests.

While the peaceful marches against China bring out a diverse cross-section of Hong Kong society, the vandalism and violent clashes with police tend to be carried out by younger "frontliners".

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Though the pro-China rallies can't compete for numbers on the streets, they do have a powerful supporter — China's Government.

During recent media conferences from the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs office, officials in Beijing praised an older man who swatted away a flyer from a protester at the city's airport.

They also highlighted a resident seen in a viral video arguing with protesters as they tried to disrupt trains.

With no easy options to bring the protests to an end, Beijing has appealed for "all those who care about Hong Kong's future [to] step up firmly to stop the violence and restore order".

It's a call Mr Cheung is happy to answer.

He rejects protester concerns about the Communist Party's authoritarian political system, and maintains optimism despite the unrest.

"We just want people to know there are a lot of people here supporting the country, supporting the Hong Kong Government and supporting the police," he said.
 

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Hong Kong is not a country. No currency.

If the riots and protests in sinkieland the SGD will drop like siao.
 

greedy and cunning

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Sinkies are allowed to vote who they want.
Hongkies are not

first we need to get the fact correct
hongkies dont need to vote because it is not a country
it is a "province" of china
and the chinks miscalculated and misjudged the ramification
of the one country two system arrangement.
chinks allowed foreign judges in the hk courts
chinks missed noticing the plot sown by the evil british
when evil scums implemented voting system just one year before
the hand-over.
 

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11th September 2019 – (London) Dr Marcus Steven Papadopoulos, a British political journalist,
and the founder and editor of Politics First magazine wrote a letter to the Youth of Hong Kong
to safeguard their region from British and American colonialism and defend the independence,
sovereignty and territorial integrity of the People’s Republic of China.

Dear Youth of Hong Kong,

I write this letter to you out of profound concern over what is happening in Hong Kong and in the hope
that my words, which I offer to you in the form of a plea, will be taken into consideration by you.

Hong Kong is known across the world for the abundance of rich attractions which it has to offer visitors:
its enchanting people, monumental history, splendid culture, intriguing heritage, fascinating architecture,

magnificent transportation, graceful wildlife and spectacular natural scenery.
Indeed, I have never met someone who, having visited Hong Kong, did not speak of their immense pleasure
of having toured this region of the People’s Republic of China.
Hong Kong is one of the Chinese people’s many historic jewels.

However, Hong Kong has a dark chapter in its history –
a chapter written not by the Chinese people but by an aggressive outsider: the British.

Britain waged a brutal war on China in the 19th-century because Beijing refused to allow the
British to flood the Chinese market with opium. As a result of that event, known as the Opium Wars,
China was defeated and humiliated by the British and, among other degrading acts,
forced to cede the historic Chinese region of Hong Kong to the British Empire.
For approximately 150 years, Hong Kong was a colony of a ruthless colonial power in which London
implemented its dictatorial will in the Chinese region through a British colonial governor there who
enjoyed a luxurious and conceited lifestyle on soil which was being exploited by London,
even though it was not Britain’s to enjoy in the first place.

In short, for well over a century, the British reaped the benefits of a piece of Chinese territory which
they had stolen from China in the cruelest of circumstances, by having instigated a savage war against
the peaceful Chinese nation, and exploited this region with the kind of arrogance and sense of

Anglo-Saxon superiority that typified the British Empire.

I hope that you, the youth of Hong Kong, are aware of the savage and humiliating actions
that your ancestors
were subjected to by the British. And I hope, too, that you are aware that
Britain has never apologized to the people of Hong Kong and China for its monstrous actions
during the Opium Wars.

The year 1997 was a defining moment in Chinese history because it was in this year that a historical
injustice of immense proportions for China was brought to an end: the return of Hong Kong to the
Chinese motherland. Hong Kong is an integral part of the People’s Republic of China.
And Hong Kong always has been, and forever will be, Chinese.

In a few weeks’ time, on Oct 1, the Chinese people will celebrate the 70th anniversary of the founding
of the People’s Republic of China, rejoicing in the extraordinary achievements which have been accomplished
by the Communist Party of China. From education to health to jobs to housing to welfare to engineering to
science to military to sports to independence and sovereignty, the advancement of the People’s Republic of China
has been nothing short of a miracle, both at home and abroad.
Never before, in Chinese history, has China been so powerful than the country is today.
I salute the magnificent achievements of the Chinese Communist Party!

However, there are countries in the world today which are resentful and envious of the successes of
the People’s Republic of China and are intent on limiting and derailing Chinese progress through,
among other hostile actions, sowing the seeds of discord in Chinese society, with the aim of collapsing
China and then subjugating her.
And those hostile countries are the United States and some other Western countries.

Those countries are leading colonial powers in the world which have never lost their appetite and lust for
enslaving other countries and plundering their economies and resources.

In relation to China, those countries have shown their disdain for Chinese territorial integrity by their
close political, economic and military relationships with Taiwan while, at the same time,
interfering in Xinjiang in the most sinister of ways.

Since 1997, some American and British officials have privately lusted after Hong Kong –
with some considering it China’s Achilles’ heel because of how, for some 150 years, it was ruled by Britain.


The ongoing violent protests in Hong Kong by extremists are, without doubt, being orchestrated
by the US and some
other Western countries, with the objective being to destabilize this Chinese region
which, if successful, would jeopardize the Chinese economy and could act as a domino effect by which
other regions of the motherland could become affected.

The protesters have vowed to keep on protesting. Even though they said that the bill is the reason
for them having taken to the streets, the reality is that the extradition bill was simply used as a
pretext by the protesters.
The protesters, who are a fifth column of Western countries, receiving their orders from their masters
in Washington, are intent on detaching Hong Kong from China and handing this region over to the
Western political forces.

With the glorious date of Oct 1 approaching, I urge the youth in Hong Kong to be vigilant of a possible
major provocation by the protesters against the Chinese authorities in this region, with the aim of making
the situation in Hong Kong all the more dangerous.

Chinese youth of Hong Kong, I appeal to you to safeguard your region from British and
American colonialism and, in doing so, to defend the independence, sovereignty and territorial
integrity of the People’s Republic of China.
And I appeal to you to ensure that the pain and suffering of your ancestors at the hands of
the British during the Opium Wars was not in vain; let the hardships that they incurred serve
as a source of patriotism and inspiration for you in your defense of your motherland.

Hong Kong is China!
 

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first we need to get the fact correct
hongkies dont need to vote because it is not a country
it is a "province" of china
and the chinks miscalculated and misjudged the ramification
of the one country two system arrangement.
chinks allowed foreign judges in the hk courts
chinks missed noticing the plot sown by the evil british
when evil scums implemented voting system just one year before
the hand-over.
The fall of the chi come is wat the world needs
 

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What’s the end game going to be like? Who’s paying the protestors? Taiwan? Jiang?

小不忍則亂大謀。

The end game will be like this

1) Carrie Lam will resign.
2) There will be a new CE. This new CE will be one that is acceptable to the moderates among the protestors. This is currently the missing piece for the end game.
3) Upon taking office, the new CE will immediately go after the HK 4 big families which Beijing blames for the troubles. The equivalent of a Singapore Land Acquisition Act might be introduced alongside a massive public housing project.
4) The new CE will announce an amnesty for those charged during the protests.
5) The new CE will order some kind inquiry into actions of the police during the riots.
 
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