Driverless car - who the fuck to blame?

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Driverless cars are now being raved as the next technical feat, and many places in the world are anticipating this to happen. Anyway, presently its still in the testing stages and the authorities are working on overcoming things that might go wrong. So far, for most mishaps, we can always check with the driver to determine what happened. The only thing with the driverless car is - there isn't any driver!! What the fuck to do? Who to ask? How are the insurance companies going to deal with claims? Here's a case of something happening, and there's no driver!!! This is just a simple case, no injuries or deaths, what if there were? Then how?

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http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/califor...self-driving-car-that-had-no-driver-1.2656878

California officer pulls over Google self-driving car that had no driver

The Associated Press
Published Friday, November 13, 2015 9:39AM EST
Last Updated Friday, November 13, 2015 12:31PM EST

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- A California police officer made a traffic stop but wrote no ticket. There was no one actually driving the car.
The officer pulled over a self-driving car specially designed by Google that was being tested on local roads Thursday, the Mountain View Police Department said in a statement.
He noticed the car going 24 mph in a 35 mph zone and realized it was a Google Autonomous Vehicle. The officer stopped the car and contacted the person behind the wheel to say the vehicle was impeding traffic, but he didn't give out a citation.

California law requires someone to sit in the driver's seat of self-driving cars, though the person isn't actually controlling the vehicle.
The Google project responded in a blog post, saying the cars have never received a ticket and adding, "Driving too slowly? Bet humans don't get pulled over for that too often."
Police in Mountain View, where Google Inc. is based, say they regularly meet with the tech giant to make sure the vehicles are operating safely.
The self-driving cars that Google has been testing on California's roads and highways were involved in 11 minor accidents over the past six years, according to the company.
The director of Google's self-driving car project wrote in a Web post that all 11 accidents were minor -- "light damage, no injuries" -- and happened over 1.7 million miles of testing, including nearly 1 million miles in self-driving mode. Google has said that self-driving cars were never at fault.
California state officials released reports in June detailing six accidents that involved self-driving car prototypes. Most of the cars were in self-driving mode when the accidents happened, and the other driver caused the accident. None of the crashes was serious enough to cause injuries
 
No matter how safe it is, concept will not work in sg becos without a driver, what does the haolian sinkie driver going to do ?
 
Volvo has publicly stated that they will accept all liability.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/07/volvo-accept-liability-self-driving-car-crashes/

In preparing for a world in which cars drive themselves, developing the technology for autonomous systems has been easy compared to figuring out who would be at fault in the event a self-driving carcrashes. Worried those legal uncertainties could delay the launch of autonomous vehicles, one automaker is taking the initiative to provide an answer. Volvo said Wednesday it will accept "full liability" whenever one of its cars is operating in autonomous mode, making it the first major automaker to claim such a position.

The company made the announcement early Wednesday. President and chief executive officer Håkan Samuelsson is expected to elaborate on the decision Thursday while speaking in Washington D.C. Questions over legal liability of accidents and the changing role of car insurance for motorists in a driverless-car era have been asked since engineers first plucked the idea of autonomous vehicles from the pages of science fiction and started turning them into reality. But despite the question being posed throughout the auto industry, few have had an answer.

"The U.S. risks losing its leading position due to the lack of federal guidelines for the testing and certification of autonomous vehicles." - Håkan Samuelsson.


Volvo's pledge marks the first concrete step toward one. While the carmaker only represents a small fraction of the U.S. market this move is also a smart business decision, giving Volvo an edge over automakers who don't offer a similar liability shield to customers.

In remarks prepared for lawmakers, Samuelsson, pictured above, cautions that autonomous technology will be ready for public deployment soon, and he urges them to ensure the legal framework for self-driving cars is in place by the time they arrive. Without such laws in place, deployment could be delayed.

"The U.S. risks losing its leading position due to the lack of federal guidelines for the testing and certification of autonomous vehicles," Samuelsson said. "Europe has suffered to some extend by having a patchwork of rules and regulations. It would be a shame if the U.S. took a similar path."

Four U.S. states – California, Nevada, Florida and Michigan – allow for autonomous testing on public roads, and theNational Highway Traffic Safety Administration has started to grapple with the process of setting standards that would be consistent across states and issued an advanced notice of public rulemaking on the broader traffic environment created by vehicle-to-vehicle communication.

But specific federal guidelines related to autonomous operations are still in fledgling stages. Automakers say they're welcomed in many cases, as they need uniformity in everything from traffic signs to lane markings to speed the arrival of autonomobiles. When Delphi Automotive took the first cross-country trip in an autonomous car earlier this year, the company said its technology performed fine. It was variations that occurred from state to state that proved difficult.

"Nevada had lane markings that were shorter dots, and other places, painted stripes almost washed out," said Michael Pozsar, Delphi's vice president of electronic controls. "Our vision systems have to be tuned to ensure we can differentiate that. What would be better would be better harmonization across the United States."

Samuelsson is also expected to address cyber-security weaknesses in cars that have affected millions of vehicles this year alone. Volvo regards car hacking as a criminal offense.
 
Let's say my car has a dent/crack in the bumper, and it looks bad. I see a driverless Volvo, I position my car so that the subject Volvo is aimed at my car, then I suddenly slam on my brake, my car comes to a sudden stop, and the Volvo hits my car and further damages my bumper - this Volvo's insurance will pay for a new replacement bumper for me? Unless it can be proven that I deliberately caused the accident, Volvo is liable?

Cheers!

Volvo has publicly stated that they will accept all liability.......................
 
Let's say my car has a dent/crack in the bumper, and it looks bad. I see a driverless Volvo, I position my car so that the subject Volvo is aimed at my car, then I suddenly slam on my brake, my car comes to a sudden stop, and the Volvo hits my car and further damages my bumper - this Volvo's insurance will pay for a new replacement bumper for me? Unless it can be proven that I deliberately caused the accident, Volvo is liable?

Cheers!

I have no idea regarding the nitty gritty. I would assume that if Volvo's statement refers to accidents which are caused by a malfunction of the self drive system and software. I'm pretty sure that such cars will have dashcams installed so an insurance claim will be based on the evidence made available.
 
Actually, I have this condition now. There are abrasion scars on my bumper and I am not willing to pay a couple of hundred dollars to have it touched up. Have considered driving into another vehicle who is going the "wrong" direction in a parking lot (lots of these in mall park/hdb parking lots), I will drive into them and cause our cars to knock. Not big enough an accident to injure passengers, but enough to cause some bodywork damage. I will then snap a photo of our vehicles that show the other vehicle driving against the arrow. Then get the other bugger to pay for repair/replacement work on my car. Kinda devilish, but its crossed my mind. Dashcam or not, s/he is driving in the wrong direction.

Cheers!

I have no idea regarding the nitty gritty. I would assume that if Volvo's statement refers to accidents which are caused by a malfunction of the self drive system and software. I'm pretty sure that such cars will have dashcams installed so an insurance claim will be based on the evidence made available.
 
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