Dissension in S'pore Political Parties

[Goh Meng Seng]

I am quite intrigued here. WP members and supporters keep saying that it is a process of "growing pain" for all these things to happen. However, have they looked at it deeper what could have gone wrong with the management system here?

Managing a small company is totally different from managing a big company. Managing a small party is different from a growing bigger party. If the management style and system did not change according to the needs and challenges posed by the growth, naturally there will be lots of problems surfacing.

Thus, whatever you say, whatever you chose to believe, the management of the party is still responsible for such fallout and glaring mistakes happening within the party.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[myfoot123]

If the management style and system did not change according to the needs and challenges posed by the growth, naturally there will be lots of problems surfacing.

Thus, whatever you say, whatever you chose to believe, the management of the party is still responsible for such fallout and glaring mistakes happening within the party.

Goh Meng Seng

The issue has nothing to do with managing people. It is the wrong people who placed their ego above the party and refused to be managed. Look at Eric, prempted wrongly to the media that he is the chosen one for NCMP, than Poh unliaterally take things into his own hand. Even with the most structured and proper systems and good leadership in place as per your wish, it will not make these two members listen to you. Even if WP were to be led by you (fortunately not), you will face similar issues and LKY would have taken even more iron-handed actions if this happened in his camp. That is fact!

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Who choose them in the first place?

It is about people management dude. That's always the case in political parties. You should ask Eric Tan personally why he left before you put judgement on him.

Structures and systems could only work if and only if you have the good managers in them.

Goh Meng Seng

The issue has nothing to do with managing people. It is the wrong people who placed their ego above the party and refused to be managed. Look at Eric, prempted wrongly to the media that he is the chosen one for NCMP, than Poh unliaterally take things into his own hand. Even with the most structured and proper systems and good leadership in place as per your wish, it will not make these two members listen to you. Even if WP were to be led by you (fortunately not), you will face similar issues and LKY would have taken even more iron-handed actions if this happened in his camp. That is fact!

 

[Kinana]

Goh is correct. WP must transform it's structure n management style as it grows to avoid problems. Otherwise they will surely end up w more screw UPS later

 

[Fook Seng]

I am quite intrigued here. WP members and supporters keep saying that it is a process of "growing pain" for all these things to happen. However, have they looked at it deeper what could have gone wrong with the management system here?

Managing a small company is totally different from managing a big company. Managing a small party is different from a growing bigger party. If the management style and system did not change according to the needs and challenges posed by the growth, naturally there will be lots of problems surfacing.

Thus, whatever you say, whatever you chose to believe, the management of the party is still responsible for such fallout and glaring mistakes happening within the party.

Goh Meng Seng

This from someone who has gone through all these and what has he got to show? Couldn't control my giggles.

 

[myfoot123]

Who choose them in the first place?

It is about people management dude. That's always the case in political parties. You should ask Eric Tan personally why he left before you put judgement on him.

Structures and systems could only work if and only if you have the good managers in them.

Goh Meng Seng

People come and go, that is part and parcel of life. PAP faced similar situation. Throwing the blame at WP for choosing them in the first place, than why do you choose to join WP in the first place? Every members want a different style of management, and not every members would agree to your peceived style of management. How to please everyone? The best thing is, nobody is forcing on anyone, if you don't like the party you leave. As simple as that. SDP, RP, NSP and SPP is facing similar management issues, why target WP alone?

Putting blame on the choice of people is to blame every politicians in opposition party. Why TSJ choose SDP, why Hazel couplle choose RP, why you choose WP, why Glibert goh hops around. YOu get the point?

 

[myfoot123]

Goh is correct. WP must transform it's structure n management style as it grows to avoid problems. Otherwise they will surely end up w more screw UPS later

Why should WP be defined by PAP cock sucker?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

The next category are the minorities. We all know that PAP intentionally did this for GRCs and then attempt to control quality Malay candidates by various bribes to the community. The Indians are by nature never team players and therefore community bribes do not work so the PAP can't apply the same medicine. But as they are not team players they do not work generally well in party matters in the first place unless in a leadership position.

Opposition Political Parties and their members are better off if they understand these constraints and begin to apply specific strategies and not do what they do now. Make phone calls just before GE.

This is a half racist, half non racist statement. You have to see if the statement is positive or negative. If being a non team player is a good thing then it isn't racist, if being a non team player is a bad thing then it's racist.

Wasn't that what SL mentioned about kelings too i wonder and the bugger had the gall to complain of "racism". Whatever his name is.

 

[deepblue0911]

It is about people management dude. That's always the case in political parties. You should ask Eric Tan personally why he left before you put judgement on him. Structures and systems could only work if and only if you have the good managers in them.

Goh Meng Seng

It's always about people management, isn't it? Each time a person leaves an organisation, I haven't heard once it's not because of someone.

Having been through WP and NSP, can you enlighten us on what WP must improve in terms of its management system and structure? Can you also share some insights on some softer people management techniques or skills that you think WP lacks but should have?

You owe us this because so far you've been making rather generic motherhood statements without details to back up. Instead of saying "He should do better", tell us what he is not doing well enough, why, and how he could do better.......

You understand?