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Conscription in Sinkapore must be abolished.

whoami

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Taiwan ends conscription on 26 December 2018.
The last group of 412 conscripts was discharged by Wednesday (26-12-18).
Effectively the conscription system ended on 26th December 2018.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20181227_04/

Steady ya. Even with immediate threat from china, roc still ends conscription. Unlike sinkieland. Like as though 24/7 war time. May as well everyday recall exercise.
 

mojito

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Wanting to end conscription after the accidental death of a soldier is like demanding that cars be banned because someone was run over and killed.

Let's be a bit more practical when it comes to suggestions.
The accident happened because of the soldier's misjudgement. Evidently the practical solution is more training for NSmen.
 

whoami

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More pay and better benefits will not lead to zero casualties in training. You need a strong course of anti biotics to rid yourself of the Pappy's disease.

Money cant buy lifes. But at least with pension front line security staffs are recognise for their risk they are forced to undertake. Those NS who died during course of training got NOTHING at all except a "promotion" n 21 gun salute. NOK also get nothing at all. The best is do away with NS or cut down to 6 - 12 mths NS
 
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Leckmichamarsch

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PAY MARKET RATE.....IF WE PAY UNDERPERFORMING ASSES MILLIONS, WHY PAY OUR NS HEROS LES THAN BANGLA N ABNN ???? Y Y TELL ME WHY
 

hofmann

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Steady ya. Even with immediate threat from china, roc still ends conscription. Unlike sinkieland. Like as though 24/7 war time. May as well everyday recall exercise.

We either merge with Malaysia or Indonesia, then we can afford full time professional army.

Or we just join batam and johore in a new riau sultante. At least we won't need a president anymore, we'll have a real blue blooded sultan!
 

kryonlight

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Wanting to end conscription after the accidental death of a soldier is like demanding that cars be banned because someone was run over and killed.

Let's be a bit more practical when it comes to suggestions.

Banning conscription is like banning unprofessional drivers like you and I from the roads. Cars must be driven by highly qualified and highly paid professional drivers who must pass driving tests and medical examinations on a regular basis.
 

Leongsam

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Banning conscription is like banning unprofessional drivers like you and I from the roads. Cars must be driven by highly qualified and highly paid professional drivers who must pass driving tests and medical examinations on a regular basis.

In an ideal world only top rally drivers and racing car drivers should be given licenses as only they have the skills needed to handle an emergency situation and deal with less than ideal conditions.

In reality we all know that my life and yours would be vastly different if this was implemented. There simply would not be enough drivers to cater to world demand.

National defense is similar especially for a small country. Suggesting that only the defense of a whole nation can be placed upon the shoulders of a few highly trained elite forces simply isn't realistic.
 

borom

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All the above problems and solutions are not new and has been discussed -but only a change of govt will improve things
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The fact that LHL a former artillery officer has not said a single word on this speaks the loudest
 

Leckmichamarsch

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Wanting to end conscription after the accidental death of a soldier is like demanding that cars be banned because someone was run over and killed.

Let's be a bit more practical when it comes to suggestions.
Like indian pundek can be malay minah
Even the oppoes dare not raise the abolishment of or voluntary NS issue. If they had, they could gain more seats.
Arabs go fugg camel
 

bobby

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Wanting to end conscription after the accidental death of a soldier is like demanding that cars be banned because someone was run over and killed.

Let's be a bit more practical when it comes to suggestions.


Same can be said when LKY banned chewing gum....
 

rushifa666

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Never happening. All dictators have tk have armies. Peasants are worthless anyway. They will still support the same party this year no?
 

syed putra

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Wanting to end conscription after the accidental death of a soldier is like demanding that cars be banned because someone was run over and killed.

Let's be a bit more practical when it comes to suggestions.
Hullo. You do not spend 2 years driving a car. Plus its voluntary.
I suggest NS be on voluntary basis, with a huge increase in allowance and benefits. Say, you end with a degree after end of service. Duration extended to accommodate this.
 

kryonlight

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National defense is similar especially for a small country. Suggesting that only the defense of a whole nation can be placed upon the shoulders of a few highly trained elite forces simply isn't realistic.

The active personnel in the Kiwi armed forces is 11,900.
The active personnel in the Sinkie armed forces is 72,000, inclusive of 46,800 conscripts.
Based on the land size of both countries, the numbers don't agree with your statement.
 

Leongsam

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The active personnel in the Kiwi armed forces is 11,900.
The active personnel in the Sinkie armed forces is 72,000, inclusive of 46,800 conscripts.
Based on the land size of both countries, the numbers don't agree with your statement.

You are choosing the worst example because NZ is a sitting duck. It could be invaded in less than a week by just about anyone.

It has no air force, no navy and and army so weak that it would never be able to hold ground.

If Singapore was in the same state it would have ceased to exist as an independent nation a long time ago.


Main article: Royal New Zealand Navy

The Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) includes two Anzac class frigates, developed in conjunction with Australia, and based on the German MEKO 200design. Eight other vessels are in use, consisting of patrol vessels and logistics vessels. In 2010, the RNZN completed the acquisition of seven new vessels: one large Multi-Role Vessel named the HMNZS Canterbury, two Offshore Patrol Vessels, and four Inshore Patrol Vessels. All of these new vessels were acquired under Project Protector, and were built to commercial, not naval, standards.

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RNZAF Boeing 757, 2 Lockheed P3k Orions and a Lockheed C130 H Hercules in Formation

Main article: Royal New Zealand Air Force
The Royal New Zealand Air Force consists of 50 aircraft, consisting of P-3 Orionmaritime patrol aircraft and Lockheed C-130 Hercules and other transport aircraft. The RNZAF does not have an air combat force following the retirement without replacement of its A-4 Skyhawk and Aermacchi MB-339 squadrons. A plan to acquire 28 F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft was controversially cancelled by the Labour Government in 2000. The NH90 helicopter has recently been ordered to replace Bell UH-1 Iroquois. The PAC CT/4 Airtrainer is locally produced.
 

Leongsam

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That's much better than Singapore. The SAF can only hold out for maximum 3 days and pray that Uncle Sam comes to help.

You need to understand the strategy that is the foundation for a successful defense of Singapore. The SAF is not going to sit back and wait for the enemy to arrive and establish a beachhead. By the time that happens Singapore would not last 6 hours let alone 3 days.

Just take a look at the inventory of the RSAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Republic_of_Singapore_Air_Force

More than 100 attack fighters. Aerial refueling, early warning radar, troop deployment helicopters which obviously are not there to transport troops from Changi to Jurong.

I spent more than a decade in Tengah air base. Our defenses are formidable and I can assure you that the defense of my beloved Singapore does not take place within the Island. It involves projection of fire power and logistical support way beyond national boundaries.
 
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