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Church leader gets $500k

fukyuman

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We shall all see. God has a way to deal with wolves who attack his flock from within. Prince certainly have the silver tongue of the devil. Heard him preached before. Claimed to have a hot-line with God and is able to stop rain. His sermons get weirder. Once he said certain classical music brings death to to the listener. Members are encourage not to read novels. The other sham pastors learn the same trick. You can read anything in King James Bible. Sodom & Gomorrah was destroyed by God to stop aids. They call it discernment of course. Their Church runs an efficient milking machine. First phase. Good news, God's Forgiveness, Redemption, Healing. Traveling foreign preachers are invited to run special faith healing services. They always get new members after that. Lots of chiobus with plenty of love hugs and love bombardments. 2nd phase. Nothing is for free. God's forgiveness must be paid. Old testament stories comes out, how God's favorite, King David paid for coveting another person's wife. Like David, God is going to burn you to cleanse you of your sins. You must accept his severe punishment. Endless call for tithes. Congregration opens purse to bribe God for less punishments. Similar message continues for weeks until congregation reached breaking point. People are crying and are becoming alienated. Phase 3. Pressure cooker turned off. New message. God wants to heal you. God loves you and cares for you. Repeat Phase 1, II, III. Old seasoned members knows the phases by heart and know how money pours in.
For those who woke up to the sham, prolonged absence earns them a letter of excommunication. Under their society laws which they are registered under, absence is one of the grounds for termination.
 

lancheowman

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dunno why are you trying to divert people's attention with this CHC thingie? it has been goning on for yearsssss ....now then you kpkb...why har?
 

drifter

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dunno why are you trying to divert people's attention with this CHC thingie? it has been goning on for yearsssss ....now then you kpkb...why har?

everything have to start from somewhere ... its time now...enough means enough ...last time nobody kpkb about NKF , see what happens when the shit hits the fan . :smile:
 

commoner

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had a glance on his website: DVD selling $39 in USA for 2 hour sermon. And you can send gifts too,,, A non-profit Org?

btw people do give gifts to pastors,,,,
 

Hakka Tiow

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No reason why a born conman would not go down the path of exploiting the well known gullibility of Singaporeons. We have been attracting the attention of crooks from all over the world. The proof will be another 66.6% win in the next GE!
 

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scroobal

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Notice how the letter writer jumped from church to charity. All new age churches always create a charity wing to allow word association and give them tax and other image cover.

7th Day Adventist operate on one of the most profitable business in the world running weet bix cereal and all under a non-profit status.

More importantly it provides instant chicken soup solution for followers so that donation keep flowing.





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Leaders of charities should be paid well too

I REFER to Monday's report, "$500,000 pay for New Creation Church leader", about the salary of Senior Pastor Joseph Prince.
Our society seems to have developed this mentality that certain professions - particularly charities and other do-ers of good - should not be paid well. I do not understand this sentiment.

Charities, just like other organisations, need to attract talented people to serve as their leaders. If charity executives were paid poorly, we would be left with poorly run charities - and our precious dollars would be inefficiently used.

Of course, it is important for charities to be properly regulated to ensure they are not financially mismanaged. But why should we have a society where only lawyers, doctors and bankers are paid handsomely?

Siddharth George
 

tonychat

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Talk so much also no use.. anyone who profit from religion is a devil, no need to say so much. I bet this prince is a meat-eater.
 

abraham2

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Honestly, I don't give a damn on how much these jokers earn.
I'm more concern on how much i'm going to make this year.
 

giddyup

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I was disappointed and saddened to read about NCC paying one of its leaders such a large sum. No matter how you look at it, it cannot be justified for the following reasons.

1. NCC receives tithes and offerings and donations on a purely voluntary basis. Part of this money is paid for the salaries of church workers. Most of this money should be used to do God’s work to help the needy and suffering. How can such a large sum be disporportionately paid to just one leader no matter how charismatic he is or how he draws the crowd. He is not after all a commercial motivational speaker but a servant of God. Pay him well by all means but this large amount?
2. It appears that there is no limit to how much he can be paid. It seems that the select few members of the board have implied and indirectly justified it by saying that he alone has grown the church. They should be reminded that the BIBLE states that the Holy Spirit is the one who convicts the soul to believe and not man. SO does it mean that as the church grows larger and the tithes increase further, the greater will this leader be enriched? How sad have they got this principle wrong. What God makes possible, He can also take away. The greater the gift He gives the greater the responsibility.
3. Is this true?.... there are only a few hundred church voting members in a church of so many thousand. Is it because the membership is only by invitation? Have they publicly opened the membership to all? How were these few hundred invited? Are these few hundred all salaried workers of the church? Every member who attends church regularly at NCC should be allowed to be a voting member especially if he tithes to the church but not exclusively.
4. The church should make known the relationship of NCC to Rock productions(RP). Who are the shareholders of Rock Productions. After all is it correct to say that RP draws its investible funds from NCC. So if they do so and make a profit, do they then justify the return of profits to the church to pay its leader such a large sum. How are the rest of the profits given back to the church? Again this is not correct in my humble opinion as it would mean they use the money that church members voluntarily give to invest( which is good) but then the profits are directly used to pay the salary of a “CEO”. There is only one CEO of the church and RP and that is Jesus. The salary of the church leader should be capped and determined purely by what is justified on moral grounds as they are still a voluntary organization.
5. It would be interesting to know if his salary is tax free> Probably not?
 

shelltox

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Humans think that by giving money to the church, temples and what place of worship ,they are buying salvation. I think they are providing the devils the ammunation to tempt the religious teachers. The best way to donate is to donate either the bible,sutras or the koran or any religious books of choice. dont ever donate money.
 

commoner

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wonder how many NCC normal members are here?
do they know about the pay scheme and how they feel?

when NKF scandal came out in the papers, some donors went to NKF to claimed the donations they just donated,,,, so donors have a aright to know how they donations went,,,,

for NCC, let hear from you folks what you folks think,,,
 
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