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Chinese aviation developers told peasant to stop looking at Out-Dated American Apache AH-64 gunship

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    China says American Apache AH-64 is out-dated concept (since 1975!) China is now in development of a new generation gunship with more advanced concepts. Out-dated American weapons will all be surpass by Chinese generally and thoroughly, and PLA will enjoy superior advantage over American military in almost every aspects.

    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-01-11/doc-ifyqqieu5614465.shtml

    中国开研新概念重型武直 别眼馋美国阿帕奇已成过去
    中国开研新概念重型武直 别眼馋美国阿帕奇已成过去

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    [​IMG]“阿帕奇”研发也过了40多年
      长期以来,制约中国陆军航空兵发展的一个重要因素,就是缺乏类似于美国“阿帕奇”这样的重型武装直升机,以至于大家都对其非常的“眼馋”!可一味的跟在美军后面亦步亦趋,除了会拖慢我们的研制进程以外,更会导致我们失去未来的研发先机。

    [​IMG]武装直升机的航速、防护、外挂都是问题
      纵观全球,目前制约武装直升机发展的其实就是几个因素:航速、外挂能力、抗打击能力。尤其是对于现代武装直升机来说,尽管机体设计上已经尽可能考虑到抗击12.7毫米重机枪弹甚至是23毫米炮弹的打击,可在面对肩扛式地空导弹时基本没有什么闪躲能力。同时,一旦被导弹击中,只能祈求自己机体抗坠毁能力了。这一切的原因,其实还是由于直升机的航速低-只有350公里以下,机械结构复杂-抗坠毁、抗打击能力弱造成的。

    [​IMG]AH-56可是相当能挂
      如何从根本上解决这个问题?其实采用刚性旋翼就会是一个极佳的解决方案。刚性旋翼结构具备结构简单,整体强度搞,后勤维修量小。最主要是的是,采用刚性旋翼的直升机可以轻松突破360公里/小时的直升机时速上限(因为360公里时,直升机旋翼的旋转速度已经接近音速,会造成旋翼升力失效),就用美军曾经研制过的AH-56“夏延”直升机来说,在采用推力辅助推进后,最大时速进入到407公里/小时,这还是在上个世纪60年代,而现在美军的S-97这些直升机可以轻松进入到500公里/小时的时速。

    [​IMG]卡-52螺旋桨打架的问题也不会出现了
      不过,刚性旋翼也有缺陷,由于飞行的时候要克服旋翼升力不一致的问题,所以一般在平飞时旋翼进入自旋,垂直起降阶段才接通动力,这使得刚性旋翼的直升机垂直机动能力不如传统直升机,而且切换过程会有更大的麻烦。美国人在经过了30多年研究才发觉,使用复合双旋翼可以解决相关难题,这才有了ABC旋翼复合式直升机的出现(也就是“前行桨叶”)。ABC旋翼技术可以及解决升力不平均的难题,同时还可减少体积,更适合舰载,并且由于是刚性旋翼,两个旋翼之间不用像俄系卡-52系列直升机一样担心两个旋翼会发生碰撞,所以性能更好。

    [​IMG]中国的高超刚性旋翼直升机模型
      目前,这项技术只有美、俄、法等少数国家才进入到理论实验阶段,而进入到实际测试阶段的只有美国。但是,我们现在可以不用再羡慕他们了,因为中国已经在开始在研发相应的新技术,并进入到样机试验阶段。根据中国直升机研究单位在2017年的年终报告中提及的“直升机共轴刚性双旋翼试验圆满成功”和“第四代直升机标志技术试验成功”等重点科目来看,中国目前在高速直升机领域已经有了不小的进展!

    [​IMG]未来可以轻松吊打阿帕奇
      未来,采用刚性旋翼的直升机改装武装直升机具备天然的有点,挂的多,要知道AH-64“阿帕奇”最大起飞重量才10吨左右,这才是换装T-700升级版后的成绩,而采用刚性旋翼的AH-56“夏延”在上个世纪60年代就达到了13吨!这可是能多挂至少8枚反坦克导弹啊!而在航速上的特点就更不用讲了,刚性旋翼的直升机的高航速可以轻松吊打“阿帕奇”这样的笨家伙,就如同当年德军的喷气式战斗机进入到实战后,轻松吊打盟军轰炸机一样,再配合上新式的直升机专用空空导弹,一架刚性旋翼直升机同时对抗多架“阿帕奇”也完全没有问题!(作者署名:无名高地)
     
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    一路风雨荣光!我歼20首飞七周年高调放出高清美图
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    2018年1月11日是中国第一代隐身战斗机歼-20首飞7周年的日子。同在这一天,解放军报报道,空军组织复杂战术背景下实战化训练——歼-20等多型新机振翅空天!新年度开训以来,空军歼-20、运-20、歼-16、歼-10C和轰-6K等新型战机,在练兵备战中实战实训、按纲施训,推动空军新时代打赢能力不断提升。(制图:谢志杰 来源:航空工业)


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      从国外海军舰载机发展来看,第四代隐身舰载战斗机例如F-35B、F-35C已经装备部队,其中F-35B已经具备初始作战能力,而F-35C也可能在2018年形成初始作战能力,这样在2020年之后,舰载机将会迈入第四代隐身战斗机时代
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      中国已经研制成功歼-20、FC-31两种隐身战斗机,歼-20已经装备中国空军,因此中国海军也需要发展第四代隐身舰载战斗机,以便在2020年之后能够对抗国外第四代隐身舰载战斗机。众所周知,现代作战飞机研制费用日益高昂,第四代隐身战斗机研制费用已经突破百亿美元大关
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      舰载机大型化也是发展趋势,飞机越大,载荷航程性能越好,覆盖范围、打击能力更强,美国海军坚持发展弹射器航母就是考虑到弹射器能够更好支持舰载机执行700公里外打击任务,美国海军内部一直对超级大黄蜂替代雄猫战斗机不满,原因就是前者远程打击能力不如后者,
     
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    Now Xijinping begin to REBATE Putin's military technology and production strength helping Russia to over-come handicaps. The flow of transfer is massively reverse direction. China surpass Russia & USA in more and more areas rapidly. Putin is receiving Xi's help to overcome production of Russian naval surface warships, Russia is still better than Xi in making submarines but Xi's surface warships carriers etc, easily more than doubled Putin already. China will soon be de-facto global #1 in military technologies and capacities.

    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-01-11/doc-ifyqnick4797379.shtml

    这些年中国魔改了多少俄武器?已超原版俄却学不来
    2018年01月11日 07:55 新浪军事

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      近日,鹰击-18潜射导弹武器获得国家科技进步特等奖备受关注。客观的说,鹰击-18借鉴了俄罗斯的“俱乐部”反舰导弹,但其整体性能却已经翻番式的远超后者,因此已绝不是所谓的“山寨”。

      鹰击-18其实就是中国军工“引进、消化、吸收、再创新”发展路径的一个缩影,俄作为中国最主要的武器引进国,在俄制产品基础上进行再创新并不难理解。近年来,除鹰击-18外,中国对俄制武器的“再创新”可谓成果丰硕,很多已超乎俄国人的想象。今天,北国防务(微信ID:sinorusdef)就来说说这事。

    [​IMG]△与俄渊源颇深的国产歼-16战机
      目前,我国陆、海、空以及火箭军部队中还有很多主力装备保留着上世纪90年代来自前苏联各加盟共和国的“异国血统”,有的是当时原装整机引进的,比如苏-27SK、苏-30MKK/MK2战斗机、“基洛”级常规潜艇、“现代”级导弹驱逐舰、S-300防空导弹系统等,有的则是吸收和融合了苏联时期的先进技术后创新发展的成果,比如歼-11/15/16战斗机、051C/052B型导弹驱逐舰、039A型常规潜艇、99系列主战坦克、04系列步兵战车、03系列300毫米火箭炮以及火箭军多型机动弹道导弹系统所使用的运输-起竖-发射一体化重型越野轮式底盘等。

      而且,很有意思的是,无论是引进的俄制原装武器系统还是某一部分子系统以及技术,中国军工科研人员都能够通过自己的智慧与创造力,挖掘出连俄罗斯人都要赞叹几分的巨大潜力,甚至比俄罗斯自己装备的同类型武器更加出色。

    [​IMG]△12艘“基洛”至今在中国海军仍具有较高地位,但中国也发展出了国产新一代潜艇
      在引进俄制原装武器系统的改造升级方面,做得最好的无疑当属中国海军现役的4艘“现代”级导弹驱逐舰和12艘“基洛”级常规潜艇。这些作战平台本身性能已经很出色,但是经过中国军工科研人员的延寿改造以及利用国产最先进信息化电子设备和武器装备进行全方位升级,其战斗力实现了与时俱进,早已不能与当初的状态同日而语。

      尤其是“现代”级导弹驱逐舰,因为其整个改造过程都在码头上,所以更加受到外界的关注。除了双管130毫米主炮保留外,原来的防空导弹、反舰导弹以及近防系统等全部被换为中国自己研发的型号,在雷达和电子设备方面也不例外,整个面貌焕然一新。而反观俄罗斯海军自己装备的“现代”级导弹驱逐舰,依旧是一副破败衰老的模样。

    [​IMG]△如今的99A和T-72几乎已经没有任何关系
      在陆军武器装备方面,青出于蓝而胜于蓝的例子则更多了。99系列主战坦克最初的125毫米火炮技术、自动装弹机技术以及底盘方案设计都来自于苏制T-72。但是,经过中国军工科研人员魔术般的双手,如今中国的125毫米高膛压坦克炮威力达到了世界最强,再加上中国坦克火控系统的飞速发展,将俄制现役主战坦克远远甩在身后,以至于俄罗斯人用“羡慕嫉妒恨”的眼光来对待参加两项赛的96A/B主战坦克。

      04系列步兵战车虽然最初采用了来自BMP-3炮塔技术的武器站设计,但是用的却是中国自主研发的全新重型履带式底盘,总体性能将俄制BMP-3步兵战车碾压在脚下毫不为过。

    [​IMG]△03式火箭炮的射程让俄国人羡慕
      同样,03系列300毫米火箭炮也是将俄制BM-30同口径火箭炮的发射部分以及弹药技术完全吸收后,实现了射程和打击精度、威力的多重飞跃。在俄罗斯人还为增加BM-30火箭炮的射程而苦恼时,中国03系列火箭炮却早已实现了比前者增加一倍甚至两倍射程的目标。

      更为重要的是,03系列火箭炮也同时带动了国内很多军工企业发展远程大口径火箭炮的行为,很多外贸型号的性能也丝毫不输于前者。以至于白俄罗斯这个俄罗斯最为亲密的伙伴国也决定用带有中国技术血统的“波罗乃兹”火箭炮替换BM-30,这无疑是对中国火箭炮技术水平的最好褒奖。

    [​IMG]△被中国发扬光大的82毫米速射迫击炮
      此外,尤为值得一提的是,连82毫米自动迫击炮这样几乎被苏俄放弃的武器装备,中国军工科研人员也能做到妙笔生花。“矢车菊”82毫米自动迫击炮虽然火力猛、射速快,但是打击精度差,射程较近,形尺寸和重量大,不便于机动。中国军工科研人员得到这种火炮的技术后,通过改进设计,采用新材料和制造工艺,同时安装在4X4高机动越野车底盘上,实现了火力、威力、精度以及机动性全方位的大幅提升。

      目前,国产82毫米车载自动迫击炮已经成为空降兵部队以及陆军山地部队和轻型摩托化部队的有力火力压制武器。这一脱胎换股的改造成果,也足以让俄罗斯人惊得下巴掉地了。(作者署名:北国防务)




    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-01-11/doc-ifyqqieu5647286.shtml

    俄军舰短缺俄媒瞄上中国:中国船身动力装置性价比高
    2018年01月11日 10:33 参考消息

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      原标题:俄媒称俄军舰短缺可向中国买:中国船身动力装置性价比高

      参考消息网1月11日报道 俄媒称,俄罗斯国家武装计划的海军部分落实不当可能导致俄罗斯海军在未来几年里无法完成某些任务。这个问题恐怕需要他国帮助才能解决。出于一系列原因,中国是这方面最有前途的伙伴。

      俄罗斯《消息报》网站1月10日报道称,只有中国才能帮助俄海军的几个原因如下:

      寻找给予者

      报道称,俄海军在发展时期不止一次寻求过外国帮助。从帆船过渡到蒸汽轮船的时期可以分为三个阶段:19世纪60年代至20世纪头10年,俄罗斯帝国积极购买已建成军舰并进口技术;20世纪30年代至40年代,苏联进口技术、自主设计和租借军舰;最后,从21世纪头10年起,俄罗斯海军再次进入需要求助于人的阶段。目前主要是寻求技术和系统,比如护卫舰和小型导弹舰的柴油发动机。

      报道表示,由于2014年的克里米亚和顿巴斯事件,德国不再向俄提供“暴徒-M”小型导弹舰使用的MTU16V4000M90型柴油发动机,这迫使俄军方和国防业与中国合作。河南柴油机重工有限责任公司生产的CHD622V20型发动机取代了前5艘“暴徒-M”安装的德国发动机。

      不过,单靠柴油机轮不能解决问题。如今,俄海军严重缺乏主力战舰。2005年左右对护卫舰的需求是50艘,其中包括30艘轻型护卫舰和20艘重型护卫舰。后者(重型)应在2025年左右入列。这项计划看上去本来相当现实:在建成第一批6艘11356型远海护卫舰之后,俄海军计划再接收3艘、甚至6艘该型军舰,以及8艘最新的22350型护卫舰(未来应该更多)。此外,俄海军已经拥有两艘11540型护卫舰,首舰“无畏”号是1994年获得的,次舰在长期建造后于2009年入列。

      报道称,遗憾的是,11356和22350项目都遇到了问题。11356型的问题首先出在乌克兰生产的动力装置上,22350型首舰“戈尔什科夫海军元帅”号的建造则因舰载防空系统等一系列主要系统未完成而停滞。这些军舰的造价也超出预期:11356型起先的估价是130亿卢布(约合15亿元人民币),最后接近200亿卢布(约合23亿元人民币)。现代化设备和武器更多的22350型则接近400亿卢布(约合46亿元人民币)。

      这样或那样的问题正在解决,但俄海军目前只得到3艘新建成的军舰,与计划中的9-10艘相去甚远。2025年左右显然能达到这个数字,但那也比预计的少一半。

      报道称,近海战舰的建设也被拖延。目前,海军只有5艘此类军舰,其中4艘在波罗的海值班,另外1艘2017年夏天交付的新舰在太平洋。导致工程进度缓慢的原因不仅是行业发展差,还有造价过高——起步项目20380的造价就超过170亿卢布(约合19亿元人民币),升级版20386型的首舰估价更是在300亿卢布左右(约合34亿元人民币)。

      海军订购了12艘22160型轻型护卫舰(每艘约90亿卢布,约合10亿元人民币)来弥补近海战舰的缺口。根据乐观估计,到2025年左右或将建成6-8艘。

      此外,考虑到已经建成和开工的项目,海军将在2025年前获得16-18艘2038X系列轻型护卫舰。这样看来,不算一级军舰,待填补的护卫舰缺口还有15-18艘。

      中国的情况

      报道称,与此同时,中国海军仅去年就接装了8艘056A型轻型护卫舰和2艘054A型重型护卫舰。前者相对便宜(约120亿卢布,约合14亿元人民币),大小和性能不如俄罗斯的20380型。后者是“标准”护卫舰,性能介于11356型和22350型之间,但价格比两者都低。

      报道称,鉴于本国军舰上必须使用本国电子设备和武器,比较中俄军舰的价格和性能并不十分合理,但显然,与中国合作可以弥补俄罗斯军舰的数量缺口。

      考虑到2038X系列(特别是升级版)和22350型属于非常昂贵和复杂的护卫舰,俄海军缺少“简单的解决方案”。建造22160型轻型护卫舰有一定帮助,但并不解决所有问题,重型护卫舰没有现成的办法——这个缺口在2025年之前未必补得上。

      报道认为,在当前局面下,不排除俄罗斯向中国求助,以054A型为基础,用中国船身和动力装置加上俄罗斯武器和电子设备制造护卫舰。使用“无风”防空导弹系统、“铀”反舰导弹系统、通用防空火炮系统和量产的通信、雷达系统等现成组件,俄罗斯可以在相对较短的时间内制造出这种军舰,因为俄罗斯武器与中国船身结合的问题已经不止一次得到解决。

      俄媒表示,总的来看,如果说护卫舰的不足最终还能挺过去,那么建造航母等大型战舰恐怕就少不了中国的帮助了。无论如何,现在中国建造和使用国产航母的经验明显更新。(编译/贺颖骏)

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    USAF general said Syrian War leaked USAF tactical secrets to Russian & Chinese, USAF seriously handicapped in future wars.

    F-22 F-35 & AWAC had already met Russian surveillance & head on confrontation with SU-35 etc in Syria. Secret Tactical Data had been gathered by Russian & will leak to Chinese. The most important are electronic thermal and radar signature, communication characteristics, weapons' data link and control frequencies, deception and false signal styles. Once these are known, all the Russian & Chinese weapons will be programmed accordingly. Without Syrian wars, there was no such good chance of direct contact.

    Russian & Chinese in the past rely on remotely gathered info by snooping near US joint exercises with Japan & Korea & NATO typically. Spy ships spy planes submarines etc will be near by to harvest data. But these are not near enough. Non-Interactive and indirect.

    Syrian War is a great gain in tactical intelligence.

    USAF generals Tak Boleh Tahan.


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    苏35交锋F22美中将称机密被俄摸透 中国也能占上便宜
    苏35交锋F22美中将称机密被俄摸透 中国也能占上便宜

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      近些日子,F-22和苏-35之间交锋不断,也让军迷们更多的了解到美俄两国目前入列的最强战机。特别是2017年12月14号,美国F-22对俄罗斯苏-25发射热焰弹进行干扰后,竟被苏-35S逼近到尾部。

      该消息一出顿时引起幡然大波,很多人开始猜测是F-22没发现苏-35逼近,还是F-22已经发现了苏-35却没采取措施?从美俄各自发布的消息来看,双方公开的信息都含糊不清,外界很难知晓其中的具体情节。

      有业内人士分析称,从苏-35靠近F-22直到40分钟后才离开这一事中可以推定,苏-35并没有在第一时间被F-22给逼退,这证明苏-35在F-22面前依旧保持有一定的战斗力,毕竟苏-35战机上装备有俄罗斯最先进的电子设备。

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      针对苏-35和F-22在中东地区的一系列交锋,有美军将军表示亏大了。国外媒体援引美国中将贾米森的话表示,中东冲突为俄罗斯提供了评估F-22的绝好机会,叙利亚已成为俄罗斯获得美国行动情报的真正宝库,而这个情报是“无价的”。对此美国媒体表示,在获得了F-22的情报后,苏-35作为性能不俗的战机可能会使F-22等美国隐形飞机的优势被严重削弱。

      其实苏-35迅速从后半圆靠近F-22这一战术,很有可能还是从美军那学习来的。有美国飞行员表示,F-22曾在战场上彻底压制过苏-35,多次出现在其背后却没有被发现。之所以能做到这点,关键就是俄罗斯并不熟悉F-22的战术,美军采用一种名为后半球战术,先通过友军观察到敌机的位置,再绕到其后半球悄无声息地靠近。很有可能俄罗斯飞行员就是熟悉了美军这一套路后,直接用到了F-22身上。

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      苏-35已凭借其在中东的表现证明了其性能,更是通过一系列的较量获得F-22的关键情报,

      可以说这对中国来说也将带来极大的好处。

      早些时候有消息人士透露,俄方已向中国交付第2批10架苏-35战机,剩下的10架将在今年交付。中国在入列苏-35后,并学习到美俄战机较量的经验,不仅有助于我国空军快速形成战斗力已应对美军五代机的战术,还能促使我国改进歼-20、歼-31和其他先进战机的性能,更适应战场上的需求。(作者署名:前沿哨所)
     
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    Russia gained a ‘treasure trove’ of intelligence on the US’s best fighter jets in Syria

    Alex Lockie, Business Insider US
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    • A top US Air Force General says Russia has learned a lot from operating alongside US aircraft in Syria, and they are now integrating the lessons into their training.
    • Russian jets and anti-air systems in Syria have been able to practice tracking US jets, including the F-22, possibly eroding its stealth advantage.
    • But the US has been watching Russia too, and the US’ competitors still have a long way to go before negating the US’ air supremacy.
    In the fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, US and US-led coalition jets have flown thousands of sorties and dropped tons of munitions, but in doing so they’ve tipped their hands to Russian fighter jets that have eagerly stalked the US’s best jets.

    “In the skies over Syria, it’s really just been a treasure trove for [Russia] to see how we operate,” Lt. Gen. VeraLinn “Dash” Jamieson told an Air Force Association briefing before Congress and reporters.

    “Our adversaries are watching us, they’re learning from us,” said Jamieson, who added that the Russian Air Force cycled the majority of its entire forces through Syria to give them real world combat experience.


    During the air campaign in Syria, Russia got a look at the tactics, behaviors, radar, and thermal signatures of the US’ top air dominance fighter, the F-22.

    Russia is figuring out the US and gloating about it

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    In the skies over Syria, Russia’s top fighter jets came face to face with the F-22, and appeared to show it little reverence.

    Russia’s air force has used the occasion to gloat and share stories of their dominance in such encounters, which should be taken with a grain of salt.

    “We always found ourselves ‘on their tails’ as the pilots say, which means victory in a dogfight,” Russian Airspace Forces major, Maksim Makolin, said, according to state media.

    Though Russia often exaggerates or fabricates stories of its air force’s prowess, there’s real reason to believe Russia gained valuable information that could help it in a fight with US jets.

    “Russia can learn more than just observing US/coalition tactics, techniques, and procedures,” Justin Bronk, an expert on aerial combat at the Royal United Services Institute, told Business Insider. “They can also ‘paint’ Western fighters and other air assets with ground based and aerial fire control and search radars.”

    The F-22 relies on stealth for its major advantage against Russian jets, which have similar if not greater performance in traditional style confrontations like dogfights. If Russia gained experience tracking the F-22 with infrared search and track radars, as Bronk suggested they might, it would be “very useful stuff.”

    Russia operating in close proximity to the US likely allowed them to tune their air and land based sensors to detect all varieties of US and coalition aircraft operating over Syria.

    Russia’s role in Syria has been a double-edged sword
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    As a result, the advantages afforded to planes like the F-22 that utilize stealth – and all US fighter jets that use classified tactics in combat scenarios – may have been eroded.

    “Russia has gained invaluable insights and information with operating in a contested air space alongside us, and they’re incorporating lessons learned from actually doing a first ‘away’ fight,” said Jamieson.

    But as Bronk points out, the observation was likely mutual, and likely cut both ways.

    “Whilst Russia is certainly making every use that it can of the opportunity to learn about Western air operations and capabilities in the shared skies over Syria, that process goes both ways since whatever Russian military aircraft do is done within airspace heavily surveilled by Western assets,” Bronk said.

    Still, as time marches on and adversaries catch up, the future of US air supremacy comes into question.

    “The US Air Force can and will maintain air supremacy today,” said US Air Force Lt. Gen Chris Nowland at the same forum. “The question is the future.”






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    Russian Military Uses Syria as Proving Ground, and West Takes Notice
    By STEVEN LEE MYERS and ERIC SCHMITTOCT. 14, 2015

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    WASHINGTON — Two weeks of air and missile strikes in Syria have given Western intelligence and military officials a deeper appreciation of the transformation that Russia’s military has undergone under President Vladimir V. Putin, showcasing its ability to conduct operations beyond its borders and providing a public demonstration of new weaponry, tactics and strategy.

    The strikes have involved aircraft never before tested in combat, including the Sukhoi Su-34 strike fighter, which NATO calls the Fullback, and a ship-based cruise missile fired more than 900 miles from the Caspian Sea, which, according to some analysts, surpasses the American equivalent in technological capability.

    Russia’s jets have struck in support of Syrian ground troops advancing from areas under the control of the Syrian government, and might soon back an Iranian-led offensive that appeared to be forming in the northern province of Aleppo on Wednesday. That coordination reflects what American officials described as months of meticulous planning behind Russia’s first military campaign outside former Soviet borders since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

    Taken together, the operations reflect what officials and analysts described as a little-noticed — and still incomplete — modernization that has been underway in Russia for several years, despite strains on the country’s budget. And that, as with Russia’s intervention in neighboring Ukraine, has raised alarms in the West.

    In a report this month for the European Council on Foreign Relations, Gustav Gressel argued that Mr. Putin had overseen the most rapid transformation of the country’s armed forces since the 1930s. “Russia is now a military power that could overwhelm any of its neighbors, if they were isolated from Western support,” wrote Mr. Gressel, a former officer of the Austrian military.

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    The operation in Syria — still relatively limited — has become, in effect, a testing ground for an increasingly confrontational and defiant Russia under Mr. Putin. In fact, as Mr. Putin himself suggested on Sunday, the operation could be intended to send a message to the United States and the West about the restoration of the country’s military prowess and global reach after decades of post-Soviet decay.

    “It is one thing for the experts to be aware that Russia supposedly has these weapons, and another thing for them to see for the first time that they do really exist, that our defense industry is making them, that they are of high quality and that we have well-trained people who can put them to effective use,” Mr. Putin said in an interview broadcast on state television. “They have seen, too, now that Russia is ready to use them if this is in the interests of our country and our people.”

    Russia’s swift and largely bloodless takeover of Crimea in 2014 was effectively a stealth operation, while its involvement in eastern Ukraine, though substantial, was conducted in secrecy and obfuscated by official denials of direct Russian involvement. The bombings in Syria, by contrast, are being conducted openly and are being documented with great fanfare by the Ministry of Defense in Moscow, which distributes targeting video in the way the Pentagon did during the Persian Gulf war in 1991.

    That has also given officials and analysts far greater insight into a military that for nearly a quarter-century after the collapse of the Soviet Union was seen as a decaying, insignificant force, one so hobbled by aging systems and so consumed by corruption that it posed little real threat beyond its borders.

    “We’re learning more than we have in the last 10 years,” said Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, noting the use of the new strike fighters and the new cruise missile, known as the Kalibr. “As it was described to me, we are going to school on what the Russian military is capable of today.”


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    The capabilities on display in Syria — and before that in Ukraine — are the fruits of Russia’s short, victorious war in Georgia in 2008. Although Russia crushed the American-trained forces of Georgia’s government, driving them from areas surrounding the breakaway region of South Ossetia, Russia’s ground and air forces performed poorly.

    The Russians lost three fighter jets and a bomber on the first day of the war that August, and seven over all, according to an analysis conducted after the conflict. Russian ground forces suffered from poor coordination and communication, as well as episodes of so-called friendly fire.

    In the war’s aftermath, Mr. Putin, then serving as prime minister, began a military modernization program that focused not only on high-profile procurement of new weapons — new aircraft, warships and missiles — but also on a less-noticed overhaul of training and organization that included a reduction in the bloated officer corps and the development of a professional corps of noncommissioned officers.

    Russian military spending bottomed out in the mid-1990s but has risen steadily under Mr. Putin and, despite the falling price of oil and international sanctions imposed after the annexation of Crimea, it has surged to its highest level in a quarter-century, reaching $81 billion, or 4.2 percent of the country’s gross domestic product, a common measure of military expenditure.

    The Russian advancements go beyond new weaponry, reflecting an increase in professionalism and readiness. Russia set up its main operations at an air base near Latakia in northwestern Syria in a matter of three weeks, dispatching more than four dozen combat planes and helicopters, scores of tanks and armored vehicles, rocket and artillery systems, air defenses and portable housing for as many as 2,000 troops. It was Moscow’s largest deployment to the Middle East since the Soviet Union deployed in Egypt in the 1970s.

    “What continues to impress me is their ability to move a lot of stuff real far, real fast,” Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, the commander of United States Army forces in Europe, said in an interview.


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    Since its air campaign started on Sept. 30, Russia has quickly ramped up its airstrikes from a handful each day to nearly 90 on some days, using more than a half-dozen types of guided and unguided munitions, including fragmentary bombs and bunker busters for hardened targets, American analysts said.

    Russia is not only bringing some of its most advanced hardware to the fight, it has also deployed large field kitchens and even dancers and singers to entertain the troops — all signs that Moscow is settling in for the long haul, American analysts said.

    “They brought the whole package,” said Jeffrey White, a former Middle East analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency now at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “It showed me they could deploy a decent-sized expeditionary force.”

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    For now, Russia’s focus in Syria is mainly an air campaign with some 600 marines on the ground to protect the air base in Latakia. Mr. Putin has excluded the idea of sending in a larger ground force to assist the Syrians.

    Michael Kofman, an analyst with the CNA Corporation, a nonprofit research institute, and a fellow at the Kennan Institute in Washington who studies the Russian military, said that the operations over Syria showed that Russia has caught up to the capabilities the United States has used in combat since the 1990s. That nonetheless represented significant progress given how far behind the Russians had fallen.

    “Conducting night strikes, with damage assessments by drones, is a tangible leap for Russia into a mix of 1990s and even current Western combat ability,” he said.

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    The Russian Air Force suffered a series of training accidents over the spring and summer — losing at least five aircraft in a matter of months — which Mr. Kofman described as “teething pains” as pilots increased operating tempo under Mr. Putin’s orders. Even so, Russia’s aviation is “often painted in the West as some sort of Potemkin village, which is not the case.”

    He and others said that the biggest surprise so far has been the missile technology on display. The cruise missiles fired from Russian frigates and destroyers in the Caspian Sea were first tested only in 2012. With a range said to reach 900 miles, they had not been used in combat before, and despite the loss of four cruise missiles that crashed in Iran in one salvo, they represent a technological leap that could prove worrisome for military commanders in NATO. He noted that the advances in missile technologies improved the precision and firepower even of aging Soviet-era ships or aircraft.

    “This is an amazingly capable new weapon,” he added.

    Russia’s state television network boasted on Monday that from the Caspian, they could reach the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Peninsula and the “entire Mediterranean Sea.” It went on to note that trials of the missiles were underway aboard two ships in the Black Sea, which is bordered by three NATO allies: Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania.

    The Moskva, a guided-missile cruiser that is the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, based in the newly annexed Crimea, has also deployed with other ships off the coast of Syria, providing air defenses for the aircraft and troops Russia has deployed. Those missiles effectively protect the skies over Syrian territory under control of the government from aerial incursions, and all but block the establishment of a no-fly zone in Syria, as many have called for.

    American officials say Russia has closely coordinated with its allies to plan its current fight. Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, the head of Iran’s paramilitary Quds Force, went to Moscow in late July in an apparent effort to coordinate on the Russian offensive in Syria, and he is also spearheading the Iranian effort to assist Iraqi militias. “The broad outlines were decided months ago,” said Lt. Gen. Richard P. Zahner, formerly the Army’s top intelligence officer in Europe and in Iraq.

    American officials, while impressed with how quickly Russia dispatched its combat planes and helicopters to Syria, said air power had been used to only a fraction of its potential, with indiscriminate fire common and precision-guided munitions used sparingly. It is clear the Russians are already harvesting lessons from the campaign to apply to their other military operations, said David A. Deptula, a retired three-star Air Force general who planned the American air campaigns in 2001 in Afghanistan and in the gulf war.

    “Essentially,” he said, “Russia is using their incursion into Syria as an operational proving ground.”

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    Putin can only look to Xi for help, there is no one else capable of strengthening Russia. Naval equipment had been sold from China to Russia and may further help to build new Russian aircraft carrier etc. Putin's naval surface ships needs some beef, and Xi got just tons of that. Ex-Soviet surface shipyards got fucked by Ukraine in Black Sea, fucking wasted.

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    只有中国能帮俄海军?已开始出售组件 或帮其建航母
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      由于2014年的克里米亚和顿巴斯事件,德国不再向俄提供“暴徒-M”小型导弹舰使用的MTU16V4000M90型柴油发动机,这迫使俄军方和国防业与中国合作。河南柴油机重工有限责任公司生产的CHD622V20型发动机取代了前5艘“暴徒-M”安装的德国发动机。据俄罗斯《消息报》网站1月10日报道称,俄罗斯海军因为没有新型舰艇服役导致在未来几年里无法完成某些任务,中国是这方面最有前途的伙伴。在当前局面下,不排除俄罗斯向中国求助,以054A型为基础,用中国船身和动力装置加上俄罗斯武器和电子设备制造护卫舰。

    [​IMG]上图是俄护卫舰下图是中国柴油机
      现在的俄罗斯,虽然看起来仍然强大,但实际却是虚弱不堪。俄海军近些年对护卫舰的需求是50艘,其中包括30艘轻型护卫舰和20艘重型护卫舰,后者(重型)应在2025年左右入列。但是,一方面是前苏联解体后俄罗斯几乎没开发出像样的军事技术,二是同西方的长期交恶导致欧洲军事技术没有进入俄罗斯的机会,比如“西北风”级两栖攻击舰。同时,自行建造的11356和22350项目都遇到了问题,11356型的问题首先出在乌克兰生产的动力装置上,22350型首舰的建造则因舰载防空系统等一系列主要系统未完成而停滞。

    [​IMG]俄计划大量建造的20380型护卫舰
      正是因为上述问题,导致俄海军目前只得到3艘新建成的军舰,与计划中的9~10艘相去甚远。2025年左右显然能达到这个数字,但那也比预计的少一半。也就是说,俄罗斯计划需求的军舰,现在实际交付的只有1/7。导致出现这样的情况,也有两方面的原因,一是这些舰艇的单价上升,如11356型造价原来预计是130亿卢布最后接近200亿卢布,22350型则由300亿卢布上升到接近400亿卢布;二是长期没有新的订单导致设计和制造单位创新能力下降,如20380型护卫舰及其升级版20386型都是费尽了周折才造出了首舰。

    [​IMG]法国拒售西北风两栖攻击舰让俄很受伤
      照这样的速度发展下去,俄海军计划的在2025年得到50艘护卫舰的计划就要全部泡汤,因此,一些规划部门开始寻找对策,并建议要考虑与中国进行合作。俄海军看中的是中国的054A护卫舰平台,因为必须要安装俄罗斯的武器和电子设备,所以俄海军希望在054A的平台上,加装“无风”防空导弹系统、“铀”反舰导弹系统、通用防空火炮系统和量产的通信、雷达系统等现成组件等,从而打造出一款中国平台+俄罗斯武器电子设备的混血护卫舰,以满足俄海军在2025年时的庞大需求。

    [​IMG]054A护卫舰是俄海军未来的希望
      当然,除此之外,俄海军还希望与中国进行进一步的合作,这就是未来俄海军将必然建造的航空母舰。因为就目前的情况来看,中国虽然是后来者,但是在航母建造和设计方面,已经冲到了俄罗斯的前头,不论是002航母还是已开始建造的003弹射型航母,都是俄罗斯所望尘莫及的。分析认为,如果俄罗斯放弃自高自大的心态,虚心向中国学习,那么,中国几乎将会提供更多的合作。从舰艇动力、舰体建造技术到新型航母与弹射器的设计,中国都会提供力所能及的帮助。同时,中俄两国也要互通有无,如俄罗斯也要向中国提供核潜艇的相关技术,这样才能实现两国的强强联合。也唯有如此,现在均遭受美国战略围堵的中俄两国,才能抱团取暖,通过合作实现各自抗击美国的心愿。(作者署名:军评陈光文)
     
  7. war is best form of peace

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    In Xijinping's naval shipyards, there is a whole fleet same size as whole British Navy under world's most rapid construction.


    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-01-12/doc-ifyqnick9389143.shtml

    中国在建军舰数排世界第一 规模相当于整个英国海军
    2018年01月12日 11:06 新浪军事

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      自从“052C”级导弹驱逐舰出现在人们视野,我国的在建军舰就像“下饺子”一样。随着一艘艘军舰的下水海试服役,我国海军战斗力就像打了鸡血一样快速增长。“051”和“051B”,“051C”的退役,已经被军迷们“提上日程”。

      056A,054A,052C,052D乃至055这种万吨大舰,造得那叫一个欢快。

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      去年055大型导弹驱逐舰首舰下水,接着就爆出了055级导弹驱逐舰一批造8艘的小道消息。令无数军迷奔走相告,欢呼雀跃。未来的055将与航母组建成航母战斗群,成为我国海军的精锐主力。056系列轻型导弹护卫舰,原本是替代037,053等老式舰艇的,目前包括在建、海试、服役的056系列,已经达到了上百艘。对比美国近年搞的“濒海战斗舰”,才不过数十艘。这一点我们可以很自豪的说,056系列的数量,美国的濒海战斗机再过十年也追不上。重点是,056系列的战斗机,还不比濒海战斗机差。

      诸如054A导弹护卫舰,052C导弹护卫舰,052D导弹驱逐舰(区域防空舰),加起来总数也超过了35艘。光是052C/D,加起来总数就达到了23艘。

    [​IMG]更令我们震惊的是,江南造船厂的航
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      母船坞里,还有航母的分段在建造。这极有可能是我国的首艘带弹射器的中大型常规动力航母003。相信在不久的未来,我国的航母也会“变态”地“下饺子”,再过十多年我国作战舰艇没准就会超过400艘,拥有数十艘055及各个改型,4艘甚至更多的航母。在那时,人民海军就会成为与美国海军相差无几甚至整体优于美国海军的“全球性海军”。不再是以前的“黄水海军”,以“黄水战列舰”037,053一系列的近海作战舰艇撑起一个正在崛起的大国的海防。

      相信055的下水,成为了我国海军向世界迈出一大步的标志。112个冷热共架垂发发射口,直径比世界各国的各类垂直发射装置还大。据说配套的巡航导弹,反舰导弹,甚至会以一坑多弹的方式来搭载大批量的防空导弹,也不奇怪。届时,仅仅4艘055组成的编队,将可以免疫6个乃至更多舰载机中队的同时攻击。

      055B,也许会搭载“直20”,以及128坑的垂发系统。同时各项战斗力会大幅度增长,自动化程度升高,舰员减少。

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      055系列的建造最终会突破30艘,毕竟是目前我国改装空间最大的导弹驱逐舰。未来还会搭载激光武器,近程防空又多了一件法宝。155毫米电磁炮的应用,能把炮弹推送到100公里外。全电动力技术的使用,代表了世界最先进最环保的舰船推进技术。一坑多弹技术,也会让我们的055,变得像苏联时期的巨舰“基洛夫”级一样,让全世界的海军力量,“谈虎色变”。更何况,055的满载排水量,还比基洛夫少了一万多吨。巡航导弹的使用,使海军舰队不再局限于海战,“战狼2”里面的镜头就会成为现实。同时远程巡航导弹的释放,再也不用依靠老骥伏枥,志在千里的轰6k。我们的海军舰队一样可以圆满地完成任务。这不会是空穴来风,而是对未来最可靠的畅想。也许就在几个月后,就会出现在人民的视野中。我们的双航母战斗群会在两年后形成战斗力,届时我们就可以随意地“环岛”航行,在南中国海的任何一个角落里举行军事演习!

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      (作者署名:利刃)
     
  8. war is best form of peace

    war is best form of peace Alfrescian Old Timer

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    Putin's Navy can be beefed up by Xi's type 054A Advanced Destroyer. Pakistan already placed order for this model:


    http://www.sohu.com/a/216313038_632518


    侃军情|这次,俄媒终于承认054A是俄海军现在最需要的护卫舰
    2018-01-12 20:50 海军 /俄罗斯 /中国
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    题图:054A的垂发恐怕无法兼容俄弹

    很长时间以来,中国军迷一直建议青黄不接的俄罗斯海军购买中国护卫舰渡过难关。

    毕竟已经有泰国、巴基斯坦、阿尔及利亚等国选择了中国护卫舰,不过俄罗斯专家、媒体和海军对此却一直没当回事。

    但前天,俄《消息报》一则文章却罕见的大声呼吁俄海军认真考虑向中国购买军舰的事宜。



    俄罗斯《消息报》网站1月10日报道称,俄罗斯国家武装计划的海军部分落实不当可能导致俄罗斯海军在未来几年里无法完成某些任务。

    这篇文章认为,这个问题恐怕需要他国帮助才能解决,出于一系列原因,中国是这方面最有前途的伙伴,《消息报》还详细分析了俄海军目前的困境和中国现有的军舰建造情况。

    《消息报》得出的结论,和中国军迷的分析其实是一致的,他们认为向中国进口054A的船体,辅以俄制作战系统是最可行的方案。

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    原因在于,俄海军的神盾舰22350型下水8年都没服役,技术困难很大,而原计划作为中坚力量的11356M型护卫舰(塔尔瓦级自用型)因乌克兰禁售燃气轮机造了3艘之后就“歇菜”,4000吨级护卫舰缺口非常大。

    [​IMG]

    ▲22350首舰服役现在还没个准信,2010年下水的

    《消息报》的建议有一定的可行性,建议俄海军向中国进口054A的船体,但作战系统,如“无风”舰空导弹垂发和“铀”(注,X-35“天王星”)反舰导弹系统、俄制通用防空火炮系统和本国的通信、雷达系统等现成组件。

    [​IMG]

    ▲111356M型护卫舰马卡洛夫海军上将号,3号舰前不久才服役

    这样的合作方式,有点类似于中国早年向泰国出售的纳来颂恩级护卫舰,后来加装了MK41垂发等西方作战系统。



    前不久,054A成功实现了向巴基斯坦的出口,如果能够向俄罗斯出口,将会实现中国军工产品向俄罗斯的“反哺”。

    054A本身的架构,其实也很方便俄海军使用自家的武器和作战系统,比如主桅的382雷达可更换成俄制原装的顶板雷达,单76mm主炮可换成俄海军更普及的AK190单100mm主炮,而054A的机库设计也完全是为卡27准备的。

    [​IMG]

    ▲中国船体+西方船电、作战系统,拿来送人级早有先例

    从可行性、兼容性和成本来衡量,054A还真的是俄海军理想的4000吨级中型水面作战舰艇,唯一的疑问是,俄国防部高层是否能拉下面子向昔日的学生求助?

    毕竟之前平可夫曾在《汉和》中爆料,俄国防工业曾认真考虑过引进中国的翼龙或彩虹无人机,最后没开口的原因正是:“觉得不好意思”。返回搜狐,查看更多

    声明:本文由入驻搜狐号的作者撰写,除搜狐官方账号外,观点仅代表作者本人,不代表搜狐立场。
     
  9. eatshitndie

    eatshitndie Alfrescian (Inf)

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    proof that tiongs have been copying american designs.
     
  10. obama.bin.laden

    obama.bin.laden Alfrescian Old Timer

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    Ah Tiong put Americans far behind trailing and can not see PLA's tail smoke. Now PLA says we going to be blazing 6th Gen Fighter Jets after J-20 which already beat F-22. This time USAF don't know where to catch up from!

    http://www.sohu.com/a/216239106_601255

    看中国如何在六代机上绽放光彩?这次连美军也没有后招应付
    2018-01-12 15:15 中国 /美军
    在近两年来,中国的空军发展速度非常快。各种战机的研究更是缤纷多彩,不管是歼击机,又或者是轰炸机,都让中国取得了一定的成就。特别是歼20的研究成功,更让中国就此扬眉吐气。而在其他机型方面,中国空军也不遑多让。

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    就目前这个发展的趋势来看,未来的世界肯定是五代机的天下,许多国家致力于五代机研发。但到目前为止,也只有中美两个大国能够完全掌握这种先进技术,虽然中国战机次于美军战机,但依然让世界各国所羡慕。

    俄虽然也有进行相关战机的研究,但是T50的性能却让人质疑。直到现在为止,也没能够服役成功,让人不禁猜测它是否到底能够研发成功。就在其他国家还在为五代机所担心的时候,中美两国已经在进行六代机的研发了。

    [​IMG]

    对于战机的研究,中国似乎更有优势,因为中国已经掌握了相关的超音速武器技术。如果配备了这种武器的话,能够使速度提升到十倍以上。而在这一技术领域,中国似乎比美国掌握的更多。

    事实上不仅如此呢,由于中国已经成功地掌握了人工智能,所以在信息处理方面也占有一定优势,而且如果将量子通信以及雷达方面的技术运用到战机上的话,更是如虎添翼吧。如果要进行全方位技术应用的话,就连激光技术也能够派上用场。

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    在笔者看来,六代战机的研发必定是集合了各种高科技技术。中国如今在科技领域方面也达到了一定的成就,所以面对美国也丝毫不害怕。因为很有可能最后的赢家,是中国。返回搜狐,查看更多
     
  11. obama.bin.laden

    obama.bin.laden Alfrescian Old Timer

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    PRC quote so called SG53 NTU defense scientist sucking up PLA and highly praising PLA type 055 Giant Advanced Destroyer.

    http://www.sohu.com/a/216341119_457869

    新加坡安全专家预测中国驱逐舰,李莉大校放眼055未来发展
    2018-01-13 00:09 驱逐舰 /新加坡 /中国
    近期,新加坡南洋理工大学的海事安全研究员高瑞连预计,今年中国将开始使用一艘重达1万吨的导弹驱逐舰。从中国海军的驱逐舰装备情况来看,新加坡安全专家所说的必定是055大驱,看来055在国际上的影响力真的还挺大的。

    [​IMG]

    高瑞连认为,055大驱耗资7.5亿美元、长达180米,是一种先进的导弹驱逐舰。去年055在上海下水之后,中国船舶工业集团公司设计建造先进舰艇的能力,得到越来越多军迷的认可。

    [​IMG]

    高瑞连分析认为,055的成本低于美国生产的阿利·伯克级Flight IIA型驱逐舰,并且排水量略大一些,这些先进的驱逐舰将被迅速整合到不断发展的远洋战略中”,意味着在交付使用后不久就要进行实际的武器装备运用工作。

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    图注:阿利伯克Flight III“舒普”号(Shoup,DDG-86)

    不过,美国海军首艘Flight III型“阿利伯克"级弹道导弹驱逐舰的建造成本已经达到30亿至40亿美元之间,成本数目已经得到了多家企业和军方资料的证实,这么一来055还是比阿利·伯克级Flight III便宜。

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    在新加坡安全专家预测055之外,中国军事专家李莉也对055有过中肯的评价。李莉认为055体量比较大,导弹发射装置和相控阵雷达都非常先进,未来还能够加装其他信息化模块,并且为加装大数量的导弹提供了基本条件。055顺应了世界驱逐舰的发展潮流,为捍卫海洋权益提供了非常大的帮助。可以说,李莉大校放眼了055的未来发展,肯定了055是一款嵌入新武器系统能力比较强的军舰。返回搜狐,查看更多
     
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    eatshitndie Alfrescian (Inf)

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    they have the u.s. to thank for after stealing the technology.
     
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    Froggy Alfrescian (InfP) + Mod Old Timer Old Timer

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    Don't know what the fuck all these posts in Chinese talking about, my bad failed Chinese
     
  14. Shut Up you are Not MM

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    Not only Russia, now Germany is running to Xijinping to repair warship.

    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-01-13/doc-ifyqrewh6741345.shtml

    俄军羡慕中国造舰如下饺子 德国一想法让俄直呼聪明
    俄军羡慕中国造舰如下饺子 德国一想法让俄直呼聪明

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    [​IMG]资料图:中国建造的新军舰
      对于俄罗斯海军来说近年来过的十分艰苦,很多军舰都还是上世纪70年代设计出的产品,目前唯一服役的航母“库兹涅佐夫”号的状况更是令人担忧,前些日子俄罗斯联合造船集团总裁就表示将于今年开始维修。

      有俄媒表示,想改变这一现状并不难,中国就是最有前途的合作伙伴,对此俄媒还特意列举出两大理由。首先,俄海军寻求国外援助不是一次两次了,前不久俄方就引进中国柴油发动机以取代“暴徒-M”护卫舰上的德国发动机。其次,中国乐意与俄进行合作。两国海军都有着各自的长处,可互相学习。比如中国舰艇生产速度快、价格实惠,而俄海军舰艇携带的电子设备比较先进。所以,俄罗斯武器装备与中国舰艇结合能帮俄海军很大的忙,度过当下的难关,甚至是航母等大型舰艇都可找中国帮忙,毕竟现在的中国所拥有的航母经验比俄方更新、更足。

    [​IMG]资料图:中国建造的新军舰
      全球并非只有俄罗斯想中国伸出援手,就连德国都要找中国帮忙。去年有消息称,德国自主研发生产的F125级“巴登·符腾堡”号护卫舰因为出现严重故障,已被德国海军责令限期整改,否则立即退货。这是德国历史上第一次出现武器装备被军队退货的情况,可见问题相当严重。

      在很多人的心目中,德国武器装备一直以高品质享誉全球,“德国制造”这金字招牌已深入人心。因此F125级护卫舰出现故障让德国面子上很是挂不住,为尽快修理给德国海军一个满意的答复,德国竟想到要找中国帮忙维修。德国给出的理由很简单:中国生产的护卫舰多,维修经验自然也足。对此美国还强烈反对,称德国不相信美国的技术,连中国都比不了。有俄军事专家很是支持德国的做法:中国在护卫舰领域从研发到生产以及到维修,都已达到世界一流水平。

    [​IMG]资料图:中国建造的新军舰
      俄专家说的一点问题都没,不提俄罗斯自家护卫舰急缺中国发动机来解燃眉之急,光看到中国056型护卫舰的建造速度就知道中国的技术已发展到何种地步。据悉,中国预计到2020年将建造60艘056舰。这样的建造速度任谁都得佩服,也难怪俄罗斯如此期待与中国在海军领域的合作。(作者署名:前沿哨所)
     
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    Xijinping's most advanced attack drone's initial photos. This can be 100% autonomous and can carry out complete mission WITHOUT ANY GROUND PILOT REMOTE OPERATING IT, it will make attack and kill decision on it's own! SMARTER THAN SAF BGs!

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    近日,成飞微电影《守望鸟》登场,影片中出现的是成飞的云影无人机,这也是云影无人机首次曝光其试飞画面,该机在飞行性能上领先于绝大部分目前国际市场上出现的无人机。而此前另一款国产大型双发无人机也在网上曝光,这种无人机类似云影无人机,有网友称是自用版双发云影。(来源:沉默的山羊)


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    新浪军事深度:2017年11月,两年一度的迪拜航展在阿联酋迪拜举行,中国航空工业集团公司组织了强大的参展团队高调参展,曾在珠海航展上首次亮相的中国最高端无人机“云影”首次亮相迪拜,这款性能力压美国“捕食者”的无人机,再次刷新世界军贸市场对于中国无人机这一响当当品牌的认知。

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    “云影”高空高速无人机是成都飞机工业(集团)公司基于国家军方立项的某型侦察无人机为基础而研发的外贸型察打一体无人机。经中央相关部门审核批准,准许出口。本届迪拜航展上,“云影”共展出了三种不同的任务配置型号,分别是图像侦察型、电子侦察型和察打一体型。

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    “云影”无人机机长9.05米,翼展17.8米。具有优异的气动特性,采用小后掠角大展弦比下单翼,V型尾翼、背负式S弯进气道。云影”与“翼龙”和“彩虹”等无人机的区别,主要就是三句话,第一,高空高速;第二,参加中等烈度战争;第三,既能侦察也能察打一体。



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    第一,高空高速。高空,则是指“云影”能够飞到14到15千米高度,最大速度620千米/小时,是国内同类型无人机的将近两倍。它之所以具备这一能力,是因为其采用了涡喷发动机,这是国内首个。


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    高空高速具有重要的实战价值,得高飞得快可以很好躲避来自地面的火力威胁;飞得高,携带机载武器发射距离也更远。同时,战争中战机稍纵即逝,为了打击时间敏感目标,需要攻击型飞机有较快的飞行速度。


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    第二,定位于中等烈度使用环境。这也是“云影”目前独有的一个特点,国内其他一些无人机,主要是在低烈度战争条件下作战,也就是说我方掌握完全的制空权,敌人基本没有防空武器的情况下才能很好的使用,这限制了无人机的使用范围。而“云影”高空高速无人机在敌人有中近程防空武器条件下也能进行作战。


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    第三,“云影”具有侦察、察打一体双重定位设计。“云影”无人机侦察型配备了专门的出口型侦察设备,侦察性能很好,侦察范围广。

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    “云影”运用十二五国家重点科研成果,在无人机智能化技术领域有很大突破。 “云影”无人机的飞行平台,和它的火控系统,以及机载侦察系统,三者之间实现统一交联。


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    可以实现自主发现目标、自主决策攻击,无须无人机飞行员在地面远程控制,这目前在国内是唯一的。


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    此外,“云影”无人机全机复合材料应用率已经达到60%,采用了整体式复合材料机翼技术。同时整体式复材机翼内设计有整体机翼油箱,装有占整机一半的燃油,大大提升了飞机的航程。

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    与目前仍采用螺旋桨发动机推进的“彩虹”和“翼龙”系列无人机相比,“云影”系列无人机采用喷气式发动机作为动力,比螺旋桨无人机飞行速度高出一倍左右,飞行高度也高出几千米,这样一来其战场生存性、探测性能和在战争中的应用范围就要广得多。


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    同时,它的综合性能仅仅逊于尺寸更大的“全球鹰”无人机。


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    相对美军现役著名的MQ-1“捕食者”和MQ-9“死神”无人机,在综合性能上都占有明显优势,在国际市场上属于真正意义上的高端无人机。

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    云影”的出口,表明中国无人机已经从当初依靠物美价廉的优势来抢占市场,发展为依靠高技术与竞争者进行比拼,中国无人机技术已经达到了世界领先水平。(作者署名:兵工科技)
     

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