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For all the big talk about the some idiot being the 4G leadership group, there is no doubt that the Talk Cock Seng is also feeling insecure about his MP allowance, let alone the million dollar salary. Remember Georgie Boy - and he was much more respected for his intellect. But of course, if something happens, we can be sure that he is good
enough to join the "private sector" in the likes of Keppel Corp, Sembawang Corp etc, the way OKY went.
 
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ST Forumer supporting call for “foreign talents’, a grassroots leader who worked closely with Minister Chan before

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It was reported on Thursday (9 Jan) that a member of the public, Dr Patrick Liew Siow Gian, wrote to ST Forum supporting Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing in his call to bring in “foreign talents” into Singapore.
Referring to Chan’s address in Parliament on Monday (6 Jan), Dr Liew said, “Most people would agree that it is important for Singapore workers to have first priority to jobs. However, we must also appreciate the value-add from attracting an appropriate number of foreign talent to our shores.”
Chan told Parliament on Monday that the purpose of bringing in foreign workers with the right types of skills is to benefit Singaporeans. Dr Liew urged the government to continue to educate Singaporeans on the need for “foreign talents”.
While most Singaporeans would not argue with Chan and Dr Liew to bring in foreigners with real talent to help Singapore, many have observed in their daily interactions with foreign colleagues that quite a number of the foreign staff are just ordinary with no perceivable “talent”.
A netizen lamented online, “Our recruitment director was a Japanese who likes the obedience of Indian talents with every ‘can can’ attitude. They ‘can can’ and then when they cannot, it was the few leftover local IT guys who would fix the problems day in and out.”
Patrick Liew is a grassroots leader
As it turns out, Dr Liew is a grassroots leader with the People’s Association. He was formerly the Chairman of Ayer Rajah Citizens’ Consultative Committee (CCC), who used to work closely with Chan when he was the Acting Minister at the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF).
Under MSF, the Responsible Gambling Forum was set up to promote “responsible” gambling practices in Singapore. The forum was co-chaired by Dr Liew himself. Chan told the media at the time that the setting up of the forum “will minimise excessive and problem gambling among patrons”.
According to his own website, Dr Liew has a very impressive resume. He’s got 4 degrees: 1 bachelor’s, 2 masters’ and 1 PhD. He is said to earn a doctorate degree from the University of Southern California and his dissertation revolves around financial literacy and intelligence. He also graduated with a BSc in Estate Management from Heriot Watt University, an MSc with emphasis in global business and marketing from The City University of New York, and an MBA from Henley Business School of Brunel University.
Other information he put up on his website includes:
“Dr. Patrick Liew MBA, MSc, BSc is the Managing Partner of Global Enterprise Exchange. He is also a founder of Success Resources, arguably the largest seminar organiser in the world and a major shareholder of a company which is listed on the Australia Stock Exchange. Patrick has also established an e-learning company which was rated by Deloitte and Touche as the 11th fastest growing tech company. Previously, he was the Executive Chairman and CEO of a publicly-listed company on SGX-ST. He has also held the regional director position at the Gartner Group, providing strategic advisory and planning services to governments, banks and MNCs. He was also the regional head of sales and marketing operation for Dow Jones Telerate.”
“Patrick is arguably the first person to develop a multimedia e-learning programme on entrepreneurship. He authored a Chinese book on business systems and was also the co-author of a Times Bookshop best-selling book.”
“Patrick has conducted both ‘brick and mortar’ and online lessons for participants from more than 60 countries. He has also conducted keynote presentations in many international conferences. Through his team at Success Resources, Patrick has organised conventions for prominent leaders such as Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Michael Porter, Richard Branson, Anthony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, T. Harv Eker, and many others. Patrick provides leadership and advisory services to many professional and charity organisations.”
“Patrick won the Entrepreneur of the Year Award For Social Contribution, the Asia Pacific Entrepreneurship Award, the Global Leader Award and five other business awards.”
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Writes extensively in support of grassroots and Govt leaders
On his website, Dr Liew also wrote extensively praising and exalting grassroots and government leaders.
For example, in Oct 2013, he wrote to pay tribute to grassroots leaders when he himself was then Ayer Rajah CCC Chairman (‘Ayer Rajah Grassroots & Partners Appreciation Nite 2013 – A Tribute To Grassroots Leaders‘). He wrote, “As we go through the routines of the day and sleep in the comfort and security of our homes, there is a group of people that have worked hard and are working hard to serve us. They are volunteers in the People Association. We call them grassroots leaders.”
“Many of these volunteers make personal sacrifices of time, energy and even money to provide all kinds of services to residents, many of which we are not aware of but are vital to our well being,” he added. “They do not seek any personal rewards or recognition. In fact, their voluntary grassroots services often times affect their work and life. Yet, they live through it and continue to sacrifice for all of us.”
In other words, Dr Liew is saying that grassroots leaders like him continue to provide “voluntary grassroots services” and “sacrifice” for residents in Singapore.
Great honour to go on stage to receive award from President Nathan
In Aug 2016, when former President Nathan died, Dr Liew wrote (‘Farewell Former President Mr S R Nathan‘), “My first close encounter with the late Mr S R Nathan was when I was invited to the Istana in 2007. That year, my company had organised a fund raising event for the President’s Challenge.”
“As a company that believes in working towards radical breakthroughs, we want to do something unprecedented even for our regular social contributions. At that point, we decided to set a national record and have it audited and published in the Singapore Book of Records. We decided to set a record for the biggest number of people to walk on broken glass,” he recalled.
“What was a pleasant surprise was that even though we did not raise the most amount of money in comparison to many other fund-raising initiatives that year, I was invited as the CEO of the company to the Istana to meet Mr Nathan. It was a great honour to our team and especially to me because I was invited to go up a stage and receive an award from him. Since then, I had met Mr Nathan on a few other occasions.”
Dr Liew praised Nathan for being proactive in making things happened, “Many of the changes that he has initiated still stands as a testament to his servant heart, wisdom, discipline, grit, and desire to make a positive difference. Mr Nathan, thank you for all that you’ve done for us and for our children’s children. May you rest in peace. Farewell Big Chief!”
DPM Heng is the leader who can help lead Singapore to next level
Just last month (Dec 2019), he wrote again asking Singaporeans to stand behind DPM Heng Swee Keat (‘Let’s Support Minister Heng Swee Keat‘).
He said, “I hope Minister Heng Swee Keat will become the next Prime Minister of Singapore. His appointment as a Deputy Prime Minister came about after many years of being observed and tested on the ground, and through various assignments on national, small group, and personal levels.”
“Prior to entering the political arena, Minister Heng Swee Keat worked with and was trained by the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew (the first Prime Minister of Singapore). Mr Lee Kuan Yew once described him as his ‘best principal private secretary’,” he added.
Dr Liew then listed down the many good accomplishments of Heng for all to see:
  • As MD of MAS, instrumental in helping Singapore tide over the Global Economic Crisis
  • Awarded the “Central Bank Governor of the Year in Asia-Pacific” by the British magazine “The Banker” in February 2011
  • Led a citizen engagement exercise on a national level called “Our Singapore Conversation”
  • helped pioneer a more consultative and collaborative style of leadership and promote more ground-up initiatives to strengthen Singapore
  • Led the SG50, Singapore’s Jubilee Celebrations
  • Chaired the Committee on the Future Economy (CFE) to help plan for Singapore’s future
  • Lead a new ministerial committee to conduct a broad-based review of the Government’s policies and direction
  • As the Minister of Education, instrumental in reforming the educational system to prepare students for the new economy
  • As the Minister of Finance, led a major exercise to reform MOF to improve its effectiveness and efficiency
  • As DPM, assist PM in overseeing the National Research Foundation
“Throughout his career, Minister Heng Swee Keat stood out from the crowd through his leadership, insights, people skills, performance, and results,” Dr Liew said. “What’s key to Minister Heng Swee Keat’s potential appointment as the next Prime Minister is that he was chosen to be the leader by younger ministers and other political office holders after a protracted period of deliberations and discussions.”
Dr Liew also appears to know what’s going on inside PAP saying that Heng was “well liked and supported within the PAP”. He said, “Minister Heng Swee Keat is well-positioned and more than prepared to be the next Prime Minister of Singapore. If there’s a leader who can help lead Singapore to its next level of growth, that leader is Minister Heng Swee Keat.”
And added, “He cannot carry out his roles and responsibilities effectively without adequate support from Singaporeans. Let’s give him the latitude to continue to learn, perform, and take Singapore to another higher level.”
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The ball is in the court of the government to explain why any Singapore PMET has to become a security guard – with statistics. Even one Singapore graduate with an MBA working to be a guard or tuition teacher is a big indictment of our manpower management.

Hence, the question true-blue Singaporeans wish to ask the government is: What is the point of asking Pritam Singh what his point was? He was just doing his job.

And it is CCS' job to answer the question unequivocally in parliament.
 
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Even if CCS gives the data...you think that is the true statistics?

He is right...it is pointless to ask for it.
 
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Ho Ching backs Chan Chun Sing and Chee Hong Tat in clash with Pritam Singh


Mdm Ho shared Chee Hong Tat's Facebook post in full not once, but twice, on her Facebook page - first at 10.47am, then again at 12.27pm. She then shared a post by pro-ruling party Facebook page Singapore Matters that highlighted how Mr Chee was "puzzled" that Mr Pritam did not share the data Mr Zaqy provided in his Facebook post
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Several posts and remarks Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s wife, Ho Ching, made on her personal Facebook page on Thursday (9 Jan) suggests that she backs her husband’s colleagues’s arguments in an ongoing clash with opposition leader Pritam Singh.
A heated exchange in Parliament
Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing and Senior Minister of State Chee Hong Tat sparred with the Workers’ Party (WP) secretary-general after he asked the Ministry of Manpower to disclose data on the number of new jobs filled by Singaporeans, PRs and foreigners respectively for each industry covered by the Industry Transformation Maps (ITM).
Minister of State for Manpower Zaqy Mohamad responded that there has been an overall increase of 19,500 jobs across the 23 sectors – with 39,300 more jobs for Singaporeans, 8,600 more jobs for permanent residents and 28,500 fewer jobs for foreign workers – but did not provide a breakdown of data for each specific ITM as Mr Pritam requested.
The WP chief pressed for more specific data so as to avoid “a corrosive conversation about Singaporeans losing jobs to foreigners.” He also asked the Government to make it clear if it will not provide the requested data since “it’s pointless for us to keep asking for that data if the Government is not going to provide it.”


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Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing joined the fray and snapped: “I don’t think we have anything to hide. We have just shared the data.” He added that local employment increased by almost 60,000 between 2015 and 2018.

When the opposition leader asked how many of the 60,000 jobs that were increased between 2015 and 2018 went to Singaporeans and how many went to permanent residents, Mr Chan shot back: “We can get you the numbers. But let me say this: What is the point behind the question?”

Mr Chan asserted: “The ultimate competition is not pitting Singaporeans against the PRs, it is about the team Singapore comprising Singaporeans, the PRs and even the foreign work force…competing to give Singaporeans the best chance possible.”

PAP cannot have its cake and eat it too, post-POFMA: WP chief
In a Facebook post published on Tuesday (7 Jan), Mr Pritam explained that he had tabled the questions for the Manpower Ministry since many ITMs do not make clear whether their target is good jobs for Singaporeans.

He added that most employment statistics released by the Government also lump permanent residents together with citizens instead of providing data on jobs for Singaporeans specifically. Asserting this makes identifying issues afflicting the Singaporean work force difficult, Mr Pritam said:

“Minister Chan confirmed that the Government had nothing to hide and could provide the information sought.
“Going forward, the Workers’ Party MPs will file the questions to get the data that is currently unavailable or not presented publicly by the Government or not provided in a manner that specifically identifies how Singaporeans in particular are doing.”
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Mr Pritam stressed that the information he sought is necessary in part to counter falsehoods on manpower issues. Asserting that the Government cannot have its cake and eat it too after enacting anti-fake news legislation, he said:


“Separately, this information is necessary because, amongst other reasons, without hard data, there is much less scope for members of the public to rely on education and facts to counter fake news and falsehoods.
“Falsehoods fester far more when the facts are available but not made public. In post-Pofma Singapore, the political leadership of the day cannot expect to have it both ways.”
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PAP politician joins fray and suggests such questions may divide society
Mr Chee Hong Tat rebutted Mr Singh’s comments in a Facebook post published on Wednesday (8 Jan).

Claiming that he is “puzzled” why Mr Singh did not acknowledge the “clear” statistics Mr Zaqy provided in Parliament, Mr Chee reiterated Mr Chan’s point that the Government “puts Singaporeans at the heart of everything we do” and has to constantly balance multiple trade-offs as it grows the economy.

Asserting that the “outcomes” for Singaporean workers are what’s most important, he said:

“In growing our economy, we constantly balance multiple trade-offs, including the extent to which we bring in foreigners to complement our local workforce. What matters most are the outcomes for our workers.
“On this, the results are encouraging – Singapore remains globally competitive in attracting investments, unemployment has remained low, wages of Singaporean workers are going up and good jobs continue to be created now and in the future.”
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Mr Chee appears to be saying that the end justifies the means – as long as the outcomes for Singaporeans remain good, “trade-offs” like foreigners getting better paying jobs in an interim period is justified.

Mr Chan had made a similar point in Parliament when he was sparring with Mr Pritam as he called the issue of local-foreign work force numbers a perpetual balancing act.


Mr Chan said that if some decisions today may mean more foreigners than Singaporeans getting jobs that paid better, this may just be a trade-off that would ensure that younger generations of Singaporeans would possess skills that would make them employable in the future. He added that Singaporeans could occupy the positions once held by foreigners in time as they get better trained.

Insinuating that Mr Pritam’s parliamentary questions are divisive and could be an attempt to divide different groups in society, Mr Chee said: “We have achieved these outcomes by staying united and working together. Let us not go down the path of other economies which are struggling with the politics of division and envy.”

Highlighting the contributions Permanent Residents have made to Singapore and the fact that many Permanent Residents are family members of citizens, he added: “We must firmly reject all attempts to drive a wedge between different groups within our society and stand resolute against efforts to stir fear and hatred for political gain. Only then can we continue to progress together as Team Singapore.”

Ho Ching backs her husband’s colleagues
Mdm Ho, who has served as CEO of Singapore’s sovereign wealth fund for over a decade and a half, shared multiple posts capturing the main points made by Mr Zaqy, Mr Chan and Mr Chee in their exchange with Mr Pritam.

Mdm Ho shared Chee Hong Tat’s Facebook post in full not once, but twice, on her Facebook page – first at 10.47am, then again at 12.27pm. She then shared a post by pro-ruling party Facebook page Singapore Matters that highlighted how Mr Chee was “puzzled” that Mr Pritam did not share the data Mr Zaqy provided in his Facebook post.


The Singapore Matters post Mdm Ho shared suggested that Mr Pritam deliberately hid the data Mr Zaqy provided and highlighted Mr Chee’s insinuation that Mr Pritam’s concerns could an effort to stir divisions between the different groups in society for political gain.

The Temasek CEO also shared a video of Mr Chan sparring with Mr Pritam in Parliament, besides sharing another six posts from the Singapore Matters Facebook page. One of the posts said that data on resident employment largely mirrors data for citizen employment while three posts highlighted Mr Zaqy’s comments on citizen employment in Parliament.

The remaining two posts highlighted Mr Chan’s remarks in Parliament. One post asserted that the data Mr Chan shared in Parliament was clear and shows how policies benefit Singaporeans while the other post said:

“Responsible political leaders must try to allay those anxieties, not prey on people’s fears for political advantage. Do not exploit sentiments to create envy, anger and frustration towards that foreigner who is now taking the $10,000 job.”

Mdm Ho herself made remarks on a separate matter on her Facebook page this afternoon, that perhaps captures her views on the argument between Mr Pritam and ruling party politicians.

Sharing a news article about how a child from the UK is in Singapore to receive novel cancer treatment, Mdm Ho pointed out that the lead researcher on the Singapore-pioneered breakthrough came from overseas and wrote:

“Local medical leaders as well as doctors, clinician scientists and scientists, both local, PRs and foreign, work together to make the discoveries that are now getting into either clinical trials or the market.

“Patience and persistence as well as mutual respect for what each of us can contribute in different ways, are what enabled SG to begin to offer novel solutions and the possibility to overcome where there had been no hope previously.”
 
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Ho Ching backs Chan Chun Sing and Chee Hong Tat in clash with Pritam Singh


Mdm Ho shared Chee Hong Tat's Facebook post in full not once, but twice, on her Facebook page - first at 10.47am, then again at 12.27pm. She then shared a post by pro-ruling party Facebook page Singapore Matters that highlighted how Mr Chee was "puzzled" that Mr Pritam did not share the data Mr Zaqy provided in his Facebook post
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Several posts and remarks Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s wife, Ho Ching, made on her personal Facebook page on Thursday (9 Jan) suggests that she backs her husband’s colleagues’s arguments in an ongoing clash with opposition leader Pritam Singh.
A heated exchange in Parliament
Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing and Senior Minister of State Chee Hong Tat sparred with the Workers’ Party (WP) secretary-general after he asked the Ministry of Manpower to disclose data on the number of new jobs filled by Singaporeans, PRs and foreigners respectively for each industry covered by the Industry Transformation Maps (ITM).
Minister of State for Manpower Zaqy Mohamad responded that there has been an overall increase of 19,500 jobs across the 23 sectors – with 39,300 more jobs for Singaporeans, 8,600 more jobs for permanent residents and 28,500 fewer jobs for foreign workers – but did not provide a breakdown of data for each specific ITM as Mr Pritam requested.
The WP chief pressed for more specific data so as to avoid “a corrosive conversation about Singaporeans losing jobs to foreigners.” He also asked the Government to make it clear if it will not provide the requested data since “it’s pointless for us to keep asking for that data if the Government is not going to provide it.”


- Advertisement -
Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing joined the fray and snapped: “I don’t think we have anything to hide. We have just shared the data.” He added that local employment increased by almost 60,000 between 2015 and 2018.

When the opposition leader asked how many of the 60,000 jobs that were increased between 2015 and 2018 went to Singaporeans and how many went to permanent residents, Mr Chan shot back: “We can get you the numbers. But let me say this: What is the point behind the question?”

Mr Chan asserted: “The ultimate competition is not pitting Singaporeans against the PRs, it is about the team Singapore comprising Singaporeans, the PRs and even the foreign work force…competing to give Singaporeans the best chance possible.”

PAP cannot have its cake and eat it too, post-POFMA: WP chief
In a Facebook post published on Tuesday (7 Jan), Mr Pritam explained that he had tabled the questions for the Manpower Ministry since many ITMs do not make clear whether their target is good jobs for Singaporeans.

He added that most employment statistics released by the Government also lump permanent residents together with citizens instead of providing data on jobs for Singaporeans specifically. Asserting this makes identifying issues afflicting the Singaporean work force difficult, Mr Pritam said:


Mr Pritam stressed that the information he sought is necessary in part to counter falsehoods on manpower issues. Asserting that the Government cannot have its cake and eat it too after enacting anti-fake news legislation, he said:



PAP politician joins fray and suggests such questions may divide society
Mr Chee Hong Tat rebutted Mr Singh’s comments in a Facebook post published on Wednesday (8 Jan).

Claiming that he is “puzzled” why Mr Singh did not acknowledge the “clear” statistics Mr Zaqy provided in Parliament, Mr Chee reiterated Mr Chan’s point that the Government “puts Singaporeans at the heart of everything we do” and has to constantly balance multiple trade-offs as it grows the economy.

Asserting that the “outcomes” for Singaporean workers are what’s most important, he said:


Mr Chee appears to be saying that the end justifies the means – as long as the outcomes for Singaporeans remain good, “trade-offs” like foreigners getting better paying jobs in an interim period is justified.

Mr Chan had made a similar point in Parliament when he was sparring with Mr Pritam as he called the issue of local-foreign work force numbers a perpetual balancing act.


Mr Chan said that if some decisions today may mean more foreigners than Singaporeans getting jobs that paid better, this may just be a trade-off that would ensure that younger generations of Singaporeans would possess skills that would make them employable in the future. He added that Singaporeans could occupy the positions once held by foreigners in time as they get better trained.

Insinuating that Mr Pritam’s parliamentary questions are divisive and could be an attempt to divide different groups in society, Mr Chee said: “We have achieved these outcomes by staying united and working together. Let us not go down the path of other economies which are struggling with the politics of division and envy.”

Highlighting the contributions Permanent Residents have made to Singapore and the fact that many Permanent Residents are family members of citizens, he added: “We must firmly reject all attempts to drive a wedge between different groups within our society and stand resolute against efforts to stir fear and hatred for political gain. Only then can we continue to progress together as Team Singapore.”

Ho Ching backs her husband’s colleagues
Mdm Ho, who has served as CEO of Singapore’s sovereign wealth fund for over a decade and a half, shared multiple posts capturing the main points made by Mr Zaqy, Mr Chan and Mr Chee in their exchange with Mr Pritam.

Mdm Ho shared Chee Hong Tat’s Facebook post in full not once, but twice, on her Facebook page – first at 10.47am, then again at 12.27pm. She then shared a post by pro-ruling party Facebook page Singapore Matters that highlighted how Mr Chee was “puzzled” that Mr Pritam did not share the data Mr Zaqy provided in his Facebook post.


The Singapore Matters post Mdm Ho shared suggested that Mr Pritam deliberately hid the data Mr Zaqy provided and highlighted Mr Chee’s insinuation that Mr Pritam’s concerns could an effort to stir divisions between the different groups in society for political gain.

The Temasek CEO also shared a video of Mr Chan sparring with Mr Pritam in Parliament, besides sharing another six posts from the Singapore Matters Facebook page. One of the posts said that data on resident employment largely mirrors data for citizen employment while three posts highlighted Mr Zaqy’s comments on citizen employment in Parliament.

The remaining two posts highlighted Mr Chan’s remarks in Parliament. One post asserted that the data Mr Chan shared in Parliament was clear and shows how policies benefit Singaporeans while the other post said:

“Responsible political leaders must try to allay those anxieties, not prey on people’s fears for political advantage. Do not exploit sentiments to create envy, anger and frustration towards that foreigner who is now taking the $10,000 job.”

Mdm Ho herself made remarks on a separate matter on her Facebook page this afternoon, that perhaps captures her views on the argument between Mr Pritam and ruling party politicians.

Sharing a news article about how a child from the UK is in Singapore to receive novel cancer treatment, Mdm Ho pointed out that the lead researcher on the Singapore-pioneered breakthrough came from overseas and wrote:

“Local medical leaders as well as doctors, clinician scientists and scientists, both local, PRs and foreign, work together to make the discoveries that are now getting into either clinical trials or the market.

“Patience and persistence as well as mutual respect for what each of us can contribute in different ways, are what enabled SG to begin to offer novel solutions and the possibility to overcome where there had been no hope previously.”
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Ho ho ho should run as a Minister or shut up.
 
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steffychun said:
Ho ho ho should run as a Minister or shut up.
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Once upon a time, Wooden once told writer Catherine Lim that if she wanted to comment on political issues, she should
join a political party. Wooden should repeat that to Aunty. Oops. Forgot. He needs her endorsement to stand for erection
in Marine Parade again.
 
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Confuseous said:
Once upon a time, Wooden once told writer Catherine Lim that if she wanted to comment on political issues, she should
join a political party. Wooden should repeat that to Aunty. Oops. Forgot. He needs her endorsement to stand for erection
in Marine Parade again.
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May be retire from Temasek join PAP? She is obviously minister calibre m I rite?
 
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