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[longlicky]

Hi guys out there,

It has been many moons since my last report on my progress.

Ever since Resort World Sentosa (RWS) opened. I stop going to Genting, and get my session in RWS instead.

So far to date. I made 13 trips there. As I report to you guys my winning, I will likely lost for the trip 14 to RWS. I don't know why, but every time I shared in this forum for my genting trip winning. I will lost in the next trip to Genting. Anyway, I standby the fact and I will try to turn that around and make the trip 14 to RWS a winning session.

Ok. here is the a short report.

13 trips.

11 Won

2 Lost

Result $410K.

Wishing everyone good luck. Remember. It can be done and I am still have that little greed in me. But overall, I am in control of me. Hope to kill off the little greed in me soon.

I play only Baccarat by the way. Cheers.

Hi guys. I hope everyone in this forum win in the Casino.

for my 14th trip, I manage to break the jinx of, lose the next round when I post my winning from Genting in this thread? or is it I am in Singapore and not Genting?

I would like to thanks uncle Lim for the 70K he granted me for the 14th trip to his playground.

so the result so far.

14 trips.

12 Won

2 Lost

Result $480K.

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Happy to see Silverfox back and post here. good luck to Silverfox.

In Genting. I played both Banker & Player. In sentosa, I aim just player.

I hope to continue my winning with a better selfcontrol and would like to see more people come here to post their winning. cheers.

 

[hochiminhcity]

To everybody,
I have upload my baccarat script in the following url http://goldcup.110mb.com/card counting baccarat.html . This script use 8 decks to deal. It has the same simulation as dealt in Longjie for example after shuffling, it will cut somewhere in the centre then when the first card shown is 8, then 8 cards will be put aside and then the game begins.

This script allows you to choose the number of shoes to deal and the types of cards to include or omit. So if you wish to see the effects of picture cards on Banker and Player, you may uncheck 10, Jack, Queen and King, then deal the cards.

This program is very helpful as it will help you to get datas.

All the best! hengHeng!

Hi Bro

is this programe still working, I try this link but get RIRO
is not working,

I am interested in practice it.can you kindly show me when you have the time

 

[inhaler]

Hi Sliverfox,

I agree that prediction of cards coming out and "bi bai" (where player peeps at all corners of the card in hand) is all unnecessary.

And the law of probability may be irrelevant and to one extreme bs, because it may be just a self fulling prophecy. Because now I believe what will have will happen, no 30% vs 70% etc.

Which brings me to the question below.

I do not understand the "banker advantage". Since the sequence of all the cards in the particular shoe is fixed once the first hand starts, and applying the rule of the baccarat game; given the aforementioned, the number of cards that either bank or player has to draw, the sequence of who wins or lose is also predetermined for that particular shoe.

Through this reasoning, that is why I still don't understand the "banker advantage".

Hope you can help explain the reason/reasons to support the belief of "banker advantage".

Banker advantage not really true , at RWS , i only play banker all d way , understanding the 'banker advantage ' ...on average the shoe , banker sometime have a advantage of bout 3 hand , but i kanna tat day , player 19 hand more than banker , which mean if per shoe i win 3 hand on banker , i have lose 6 shoe of game !:(

 

[silverfox@]

Hi Sliverfox,

I agree that prediction of cards coming out and "bi bai" (where player peeps at all corners of the card in hand) is all unnecessary.

And the law of probability may be irrelevant and to one extreme bs, because it may be just a self fulling prophecy. Because now I believe what will have will happen, no 30% vs 70% etc.

Which brings me to the question below.

I do not understand the "banker advantage". Since the sequence of all the cards in the particular shoe is fixed once the first hand starts, and applying the rule of the baccarat game; given the aforementioned, the number of cards that either bank or player has to draw, the sequence of who wins or lose is also predetermined for that particular shoe.

Through this reasoning, that is why I still don't understand the "banker advantage".

Hope you can help explain the reason/reasons to support the belief of "banker advantage".

Banker has a higher probability than Player. That is why Banker bets need to have commission on them to level out the playing field.

When I talk about placing Banker bets, it's a general term and doesn't mean you have to place Banker on every single hand. If that is the case, casinos would have close shop. As a person who plays Baccarat, he must understand that

Baccarat has a house edge, if we bet on Player or Banker as and when we think it will come out, we will be exposed to both sides of the house edge, meaning you will lose faster. You can win faster, you can also lose faster. Betting only on Banker, you reduce the house edge only to Banker side and you will be disciplined enough not to expose yourself to heavy losses.

The part on inhaler's post on seeing 1 shoe having more player outcomes than banker outcomes. It is not surprising, in fact it is very very common. But banker shoes will have a higher probability than player shoes. That is why if anyone plays baccarat, if he has a winning target of 3 wins per shoe, he must also stop that shoe when he has -3 losses for that shoe. This is the case where no one will be caught out in a player intensive shoe.

 

[longlicky]

Baccarat has a house edge!

Silverfox is correct!
Some play only Banker, some play only player, some play both. is really depend on each of us. Just go with the method work best for you.

For me, is always double up method. For the 2 trip I lost, it was banker all the way for at least 8-10 hands. So.. it was just my luck. When I went in. I always look out, read the pattern and sit at the table with less player (do you like those machine gun mouth auntie at your table?).

For my 15th trip. I won again & tat make it 6 win in a row.

CHEERS!

15 trips.

13 Won

2 Lost

Thanks Uncle Lim.

Play with care and play with good self control.

 

[silverfox@]

Recently I have switched my interests from Baccarat to Blackjack. Baccarat needs to wait for right table and opportunity to strike, Blackjack have a friend teaching me when we go play.

 

[aurvandil]

Banker has a higher probability than Player. That is why Banker bets need to have commission on them to level out the playing field.

The casinos frequently leverage on this to rip unsuspecting players off.

This is true only if you are playing a standard banker 5% comission game.

If you are playing no comission and banker pays 50% on 6, then Player actually has a higher expected return.

I heard some rumours that when RWS first opened, they tired to rip off the uncles and aunties who went there. They quietly introduced no comission where banker pays 50% on 8 ! This has incredibly bad odds. Not sure if this is still being offered.

In general when gambling in Genting, you need to pay very close attention to small tricks that they are fond of using. A good example is the quiet introduction sometime back of a 00 in some roulette games.

 

[silverfox@]

Yesterday night fren jio me to RWS. I said don't want, he say bring money, 1 hour only. think think for a while, ok agreed with him.

I timed myself, ask him how many hands he want to win before going. He said 40 hands or 1 hour. Whichever comes first. I look at him, in my mind 20 hands is a lot already.

Ok, went in spend 5 minutes lurking, he found a place to sit down. He changed $10K, I changed $4000 worth of chips.

Per hand I am betting $100, his per hand is $300.

Started playing, and the 1st 15 minutes was like go here and there. He placed a few bets on other players. Because his bet is big, so when it comes to double and splitting, he told the players, if they not keen to double or split, he will bet on their behalf, win he take the extra, lose he will pay the extra.

Subsequently next 30 minutes, he went on a roll, every round with at least a double or split. Sometimes blackjack. 5 minutes before 1 hour, I count my chips, I won around 30 hands. That's about $3000, I estimated his chips to be around $20K. I told him I am cashing out, he said ok, let's go till he lose. He went on for another 3 more rounds before the dealer had 20 points ate up his last round of bets.
I left with $3000 winnings, he left with $11K winnings, 30+ hands won for him within an hour.

He said next trip probably 2 weeks or 1 month later. And he doesn't play every day of the month. Probably just 1 or 2 times a month. His record is quite strong in blackjack, only saw him lost $2-$3K on 2 occasions. Avg out of 7 times he will lose once. But if he lose, he will not chase, he will just walk away and come back another time

 

[silverfox@]

The casinos frequently leverage on this to rip unsuspecting players off.

This is true only if you are playing a standard banker 5% comission game.

If you are playing no comission and banker pays 50% on 6, then Player actually has a higher expected return.

I heard some rumours that when RWS first opened, they tired to rip off the uncles and aunties who went there. They quietly introduced no comission where banker pays 50% on 8 ! This has incredibly bad odds. Not sure if this is still being offered.

In general when gambling in Genting, you need to pay very close attention to small tricks that they are fond of using. A good example is the quiet introduction sometime back of a 00 in some roulette games.

What do you mean by no commission where banker pays 50% on 8. You mean pay half on B8?

If you are a big whale, it would be better to play commission baccarat. If bets are small, play no commission.

Bet $1000 per hand on banker. B6 get $500
Bet $1000 per hand on banker, every Banker get $950

So if you play 0 commission, having 5 B6s will need to pay $2500 which is equivalent to 50 bankers in a commission baccarat. On avg we don't see that many bankers in a shoe of 7 decks, or should I say I haven't see that many yet. 7 decks normally should only be able to play out 60hands at most.

 

[1casinobeater]

It may take you a while to learn to master a strategy and to control yourself.When you use a strategy to play at the casino,you will normally
win in the first few rounds.Quit and go home.If you can do this daily for one month you will have a winning cache of a few thousand $.When you have this in hand you can increase your bet.Remember,do NOT bring all your previous winnings with you.Bring only a 100% increase of what you have brought before.If you should lose on that day,quit and go the next day.Go back and think over why you lost.You could have made a mistake.
Even I make mistakes at times. Nobody is perfect.
I would suggest that you try your strategy and practice as much as you can at one of the play for fun online casino website

 

[aurvandil]

What do you mean by no commission where banker pays 50% on 8. You mean pay half on B8?

That's right. Pay full on B6 but pay half on B8. Not sure if they are still trying this .... They were probably counting on people not knowing the difference.

Agree that comission with banker gives the best odds. The problem is that most people are not whales and cannot afford to play comission. The casino takes advantage by tweaking the rules subtly so as to makan those small players who don't really understand the odds.

The same can be said for pontoon versus blackjack. Most people play pontoon like they are playing blackjack. The very big but subtle difference of removing the 10s in the deck means that if you deploy the same strategy as blackjack, you are likely to get very bad sub-optimal strategy. The worse part if that you try to play an optimal pontoon strategy in the casino, the people playing with you will curse you for not knowing how to play !

 

[silverfox@]

That's right. Pay full on B6 but pay half on B8. Not sure if they are still trying this .... They were probably counting on people not knowing the difference.

Agree that comission with banker gives the best odds. The problem is that most people are not whales and cannot afford to play comission. The casino takes advantage by tweaking the rules subtly so as to makan those small players who don't really understand the odds.

The same can be said for pontoon versus blackjack. Most people play pontoon like they are playing blackjack. The very big but subtle difference of removing the 10s in the deck means that if you deploy the same strategy as blackjack, you are likely to get very bad sub-optimal strategy. The worse part if that you try to play an optimal pontoon strategy in the casino, the people playing with you will curse you for not knowing how to play !

I have never seen pay half on B8.

Pontoon advantage for people is if you have 21 points, you take money first. Regardless of Dealer's result.
The disadvantage is the lack of 10s. The lack of 10s is an advantage for Dealer and a disadvantage for players. And the reason why they want to pay out on 21 first is to make an advantage for the players, but seriously 21 points is almost straight in the pocket sometimes draw with dealer but seldom the case.

The dealer's advantage weighs far more than the player's disadvantage.

 

[ambang]

These are exciting times for players with the opening of Sands and Rwsentosa Casino.

Just won $3000 by playing the 2/3 Betting system.
This system allow you to win $3000 per day.
Have been winning a week already... playtowin.com.sg

It works! Good Luck!

 

[1casinobeater]

Having a system does not make you win all the time. You need a good strategy to make the system work for you everytime.Combine your strategy and system and you are a winner.
Those of you who really win and make pocket money from the casino,I am happy for you.If you are trying to pull the wool over ppl's eyes by claiming to win money,you are making yourselves a loser because the frustration of not being able to win will make you lose more.You may create an egoistic illusion ,but the reality of not really winning will drag you down.

 

[ambang]

Totally agree that a good system and strategy makes a winning. However, there is a third factor - Luck! Still need luck to have any winnings.

In the 2/3 system, you can make daily scalping. This system should interest anyone who are interested to make daily allowances. For each game, the chance of losing is 20% and winning chance is 80%. Of course, in any game of chance, you can also loss your bankroll. If so, not so lucky!

 

[silverfox@]

Totally agree that a good system and strategy makes a winning. However, there is a third factor - Luck! Still need luck to have any winnings.

In the 2/3 system, you can make daily scalping. This system should interest anyone who are interested to make daily allowances. For each game, the chance of losing is 20% and winning chance is 80%. Of course, in any game of chance, you can also loss your bankroll. If so, not so lucky!

If each game, the losing chance is 20%, winning chance is 80%, then the odds probability would be when you bet $1, you lose $1 and when you bet $1 and win, you win 20cts.

That will be relative to payout as well. Hope I am not mistaken on this part.

Example Roulette 37 numbers, you bet on 30 numbers. Each number $10. Total $300. hit your number you get $60 profit.
don't hit your number you lose $300
hitting chance is 81%, don't hit chance is 19%

 

[ambang]

My post refers to the 2/3 betting system in Roulette. Eg. You bet 2 units on the 1st dozen and 3 units on Big (19-36). The losing numbers are 13-18 & 0.
The losing odds is 20% but you win 1 unit to risk 5 units.
:p

 

[Heart Break Kid]

The casinos frequently leverage on this to rip unsuspecting players off.

This is true only if you are playing a standard banker 5% comission game.

If you are playing no comission and banker pays 50% on 6, then Player actually has a higher expected return.

I heard some rumours that when RWS first opened, they tired to rip off the uncles and aunties who went there. They quietly introduced no comission where banker pays 50% on 8 ! This has incredibly bad odds. Not sure if this is still being offered.

In general when gambling in Genting, you need to pay very close attention to small tricks that they are fond of using. A good example is the quiet introduction sometime back of a 00 in some roulette games.

Personally I prefer to play the commission baccarat pay 5% on Banker win.

Non-Commission I ever hit B6 on 4 times in 10 rounds of play on Banker win while playing on electronic machine in RWS.
And I actually paid 50% commission each time for a B6 win

If getting natural 8 on Banker win, I have to pay 50% commission.. must well don't play.
RWS go for sure win betting layout that hughly favour the House

 

[aurvandil]

Personally I prefer to play the commission baccarat pay 5% on Banker win.

Non-Commission I ever hit B6 on 4 times in 10 rounds of play on Banker win while playing on electronic machine in RWS.
And I actually paid 50% commission each time for a B6 win

If getting natural 8 on Banker win, I have to pay 50% commission.. must well don't play.
RWS go for sure win betting layout that hughly favour the House

As I said before, a very subtle change in the rules can have a very large impact on the odds. Genting like to leverage on this to cheat unsuspecting uncles and aunties. The RWS "special" was featured in wizard of odds who calculated the house edge at over 4% !

Anyway if you are playng standard 5% comission on banker, the best odds are for banker.

However if you are playing no comission B6 pay 50%, the best odds are actually for player.

The $100 levy and lack of any meaningful junket package makes gambling at RWS a poor deal for Singaporeans and PRs. You get a much better deal going to a gambling ship like Long Jie and buying nn chips from a junket operator.

 

[silverfox@]

My field report on RWS and MBS.

Overall, the thumbs up will go to Marina Bay Sands. The tables are well segregated compared to RWS.

Toilets are bigger and walking space around the casino as well. Even at peak hours, you do not get to see barriers of people crowding around the tables watching. RWS is just too plain crowded with people and a good 30% at least who don't gamble at all.

There are enough tables for Blackjack. Baccarat also plenty. No big crowds crowding, a good 80% can be seen gambling. Aunties/uncles not as many as compared to RWS, probably they like the membership over at RWS more.

The best thing is I find the crowd at MBS more civilized and not as naggy as players in RWS. You don't get people giving you comments that you must hit your cards in Blackjack etc.

Will definitely spend time to visit MBS again. RWS not more chance.

The only lacking will be MBS does not have as many eateries as RWS in casino. But that is not the main concern.