If u look at it from another perspective, Singkieland has its bad points, but it also has its good points. basically the ppl are satisfied with the PAP...and Singkieland has avoided the excesses that other countries have encountered. True some improvements can be made and I think PAP needs reforms and we need to get out of the control by the Oligarchs, if more voted for the oppos, pap will listen. The last erection caused a huge setback to required reforms, and with the rise of the left wing bleeding heard liberal fuckwits,,,the likes of fat witch Han, Amos Yee etc and the rise of the faggot campaigns, more ppl will stick to PAP because they do not want such influence to control the country. And I would say this, I have no love for the PAP,,but I also know, some here are advocating and hoping PAP collapse etc, but that is the minority desires, if such thing happens, the country will destabilise because its not rule of law. Singkieland needs reforms to better the lives of its ppl, but overthrow pap etc is not the way. The best way is to have a credible opposition and more support for the oppos to force pap to listen. And I think, once Pinky kicks the bucket which I think is soon,,,PAP will reform. There are former PAP MPs who are for the ppl, like TCB,,,once Pinky drops out, they will come out and help. However are singkies a worthy lot?