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Can Pinky handle the Sultan? Sultan wants control of Iskandar and take back PB island

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Intervention saves PM Najib’s political standing

Malaysia’s aging former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad had to act earlier this week to save Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak from embarrassing legislation that would have given the Sultan of Johor executive powers to run the housing authority of the country’s second biggest state.

Eventually the legislation was amended to remove the threat. But once again it is Najib, in the eyes of political analysts in Kuala Lumpur, who is regarded as having suffered a blow to his political standing because of his failure to act. Former Deputy Prime Minister Musa Hitam, at 80 still a political force in Johor, also joined the fray to stop the legislation.

Although Najib’s position remains secure because there is no threat from anyone either inside or outside the United Malays National Organization, the country’s dominant ethnic political party, he is the subject of widespread criticism. He has come to be viewed as indecisive ever since the 2013 general election, in which the ruling national coalition lost the popular vote for the first time since 1969 although it maintained its majority in parliament,.

“Thank God for Mahathir,” said a prominent Kuala Lumpur opposition source. “I never thought I’d say that, but thank God for Mahathir.”

The hereditary rulers in nine of Malaysia’s 13 states supposedly merely perform ceremonial functions except in matters related to Islam, where they have powers of intervention. The Johor Sultan, Ismail Idris, was attempting to go far beyond that.

That is largely because during his 22-year period as Malaysia’s prime minister, Mahathir, now 88, engaged in a ferocious struggle to break the absolute power of the rulers, who take turns swapping the country’s kingship among them. Even after Mahathir broke their absolute power with legislation, the sultans have continued to get away with physical assaults and large-scale gambling debts in London and other casinos that have had to be paid from state coffers.

In 1993, in a speech before the Dewan Rakyat, or parliament, the then prime minister pushed through legislation that allowed commoners to criticize the sultans including the king without fear of the country’s Sedition Act. However, in recent years, Mahathir’s measure has been largely ignored, including by the former premier himself, as UMNO has played politics to use the sultans to stifle dissent.

Now UMNO got caught in its own contradictions. The Johor Sultan suddenly made a power play in a sweeping bill tabled by his ally, the state chief minister, Mohamed Khaled Nordin, in the Johor legislature that would have given the Sultan control over vast amounts of lucrative state land through the Johor Property and Housing Commission. The measure would have given the sultan the power to appoint board members and investigate the commission‘s books, among other functions.

It was the latest in a series of moves by the Johor monarch, which critics say have been designed to eventually effectively take full power in the state, the country’s second richest and one that is growing richer because of its proximity to Singapore across the narrow Singapore Strait. The vehicle is the huge Iskandar development region, covering the city of Johor Bahru and three adjoining towns. The Iskandar project, encompassing 2,217 hectares of land, is in effect becoming Singapore’s industrial and residential suburb. It is estimated that as much as 40 percent of infrastructure spending for the country under Najib’s Economic Transformation Program is being spent in the state.

Enter the Sultan, who since the project got underway in 2006 has assumed greater and greater control over the region. He has been accused privately of sanctioning kickbacks, money laundering and a variety of backroom deals. He was a college classmate of Chief Minister Khaled, whom he appointed to his job. But in the growing atmosphere of political repression of comments about the sultans, his misdeeds have remained unreported and the power play was largely hidden in shadowy language in Malaysia’s mainstream press, along with his behavioral antics.

Despite Mahathir’s legislation outlawing the use of sedition laws to stifle criticism of the sultans, for instance the late Karpal Singh, the former chief of the opposition Democratic Party, was convicted on appeal of sedition charges in February this year after he merely said in Kuala Lumpur in 2009, during a political squabble over the leadership of the state of Perak, that a decision by the Sultan of Perak could be questioned in court. Karpal was stripped of his legislative seat and fined. He was appealing the decision when he was killed in a car wreck.

That use of sedition against opposition members left Najib and UMNO in a quandary when it came to the Sultan of Johor, who is hardly a Boy Scout. Ibrahim was jailed on allegations that he had beaten people in nightclubs before he became sultan and committed other offenses including shooting a man in a nightclub after an argument during the 1980s. The charge was dismissed because of the then-prince's immunity. Ibrahim was also involved in two other separate assault cases.

In a 2005 case, a young woman reportedly was assaulted by Ibrahim after he accused her of two-timing him. His late father, Iskandar, who died in 2010 and for whom the Johor project was named, was alleged to have murdered two people but was not charged because of his immunity as a sultan. It was one of those murders that impelled Mahathir to push through laws removing the sultans’ immunity from prosecution.

Thus the ruling coalition and UMNO in particular were presented with a dilemma -- how to criticize the actions of a state ruler they themselves had deemed untouchable. Najib, say sources in Kuala Lumpur, simply abandoned the situation, ignoring a letter sent to him by Mahathir demanding he take action. Apparently it fell to Musa and Mahathir to force amendments in the legislation behind the scenes to stop the sultan’s ploy.

Part of Najib’s dilemma stemmed from the fact that UMNO has seen its local political clout diminish. Although it still controls 56 of the 74 seats in the State Legislative Assembly, it lost 18 seats to the opposition in the 2013 national election. In that relatively weakened state, political analysts said, opposing the sultan, who remains the figurehead of rural Malays, was considered politically unwise by Najib.

That was when Mahathir stepped in from Kuala Lumpur to criticize the legislation, along with Musa, who told the Straits Times Sunday edition that "If the allegations are true, then it will affect the fundamental principles of constitutional monarchy and parliamentary democracy. One cannot expect the people to keep quiet on the matter."

Ultimately the bill was modified to remove the sultan’s power to make appointments and vest it in the chief minister, which remains a continuing concern. It was passed on June 9. Mahathir himself remains suspicious, saying Chief Minister Khaled might succumb to the Malay tradition of considering the sultan the head of state.

"This is the Malay custom, if the sultan says something, it must be followed,” the former prime minister told Malaysiakini. "I am worried that it would not be the [chief minister] advising the sultan, but the sultan advising him."

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mahathir-thwarts-sultans-power-grab/
 
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Johor Sultan wants special team to appeal Batu Puteh Island decision

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JOHOR BARU, May 29:
Sultan of Johor Sultan Ibrahim today instructed the Johor state government to set up a special team to consider making an appeal against the decision by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Pulau Batu Puteh.
Sultan Ibrahim said the move was in accordance with his late father Almarhum Sultan Iskandar’s instruction that the island belonged to Johor and that it must remain as part of the state of Johor.
The Sultan made the statement when opening the second session of the 13th Johor State Legislative Assembly at Bukit Timbalan today.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/05/29/johor-sutan-wants-special-team-appeal-batu-puteh-island-decision/
 
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If Sultan has taken the power over from UMNO in Johor, i think Pinky will shit through his pants. We can't move our armies inside just to protect our investment.

Can Loong handle Sultan of Johor in long term ?
 
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mahatir is more powah than KY gels!!! he will raise up from his grave if matlaysia ever hvae big prroblems like this!! KY will just act blur from his senility and lim kopi sai!!!
 
Re: Can Pinky handle the Sultan? Sultan wants control of Iskandar and take back PB is

Pinky can handle those in S'pore only. Use the courts and ISA. He is impotent outside this country.
 
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Yes. The sultan came.:o
 
Re: Can Pinky handle the Sultan? Sultan wants control of Iskandar and take back PB is

you mean Sultan came in Pinky's orifice?
 
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Defend the Familee Corporation? No thank you.

I would gladly let Singapore be reverted to the good old days under the rule of the Johor-Riau Sultanate. I think even if you factor in corruption, it will be far cheaper to feed a sultan than some Familee parasite at the Istana. ;)
 
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Not to mention the Sultan is raising a private security force of 600 with Peter Lim and ex-SPF types.......These Ex-SPF will provide Intel and know-how to the Johoreans........

Pappies' unwise move of recruiting and training Msian PR in the SPF. Now these PRs will balek kampong to join the security force to go against SG. How stupid can you be?
 
Re: Can Pinky handle the Sultan? Sultan wants control of Iskandar and take back PB is

......He is impotent outside this country.

He can't even handle the chronic haze situation originating in Indonesia or the Riau province.
 
Re: Can Pinky handle the Sultan? Sultan wants control of Iskandar and take back PB is

Defend the Familee Corporation? No thank you.

I would gladly let Singapore be reverted to the good old days under the rule of the Johor-Riau Sultanate. I think even if you factor in corruption, it will be far cheaper to feed a sultan than some Familee parasite at the Istana. ;)

MUCH CHEAPER TO FEED A DOZEN SULTANS AND MALAYS THAN TO FEED THE LEE AND KWA CLANS OF STINKAPORE




Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
 
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