Bros, need help to spar with Georgie Yeo

[makapaaa]

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</NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:01 pm </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 16) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>18919.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>I'm now onto his facebook liao... this is the 1st Q I asked him:
Kojak BtI would just like to ask the Minister what's the difference between being a PR and being a Singaporean (well, for one thing, I know that we've got to do NS. PR don't)?
his reply:
George Yeo PRs don't vote. First generation adult PRs don't do NS but their sons have to if they want to retain their PR or to work/study here.
Need your help to formulate an effective and appropriate counter response. Because of nature of facebook, cannot have lengthy discourse lah... must be short, sharp and sweet response (best if it's witty too...).....
So, how's best to proceed now? would like to get some views from bros here...


[email protected]

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[Ah Guan]

Tell him that citizens don't vote too because of the GRC system

 

[Perspective]

I wouldn't give that as the first reply if I were GY. Ah Guan is right, everyone remembers the walkovers and he made a fool of himself. I would say that PR are not entitled to healthcare benefits for a start until probed further.

Anyway, I think debating on his FB is giving him the attention and sympathy votes he may be aiming to get.

 

[cooleo]

Why he even bother to set up Facebook sia? Only invite ppl to whack him sia.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

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</NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:01 pm </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 16) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>18919.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>I'm now onto his facebook liao... this is the 1st Q I asked him:
Kojak BtI would just like to ask the Minister what's the difference between being a PR and being a Singaporean (well, for one thing, I know that we've got to do NS. PR don't)?
his reply:
George Yeo PRs don't vote. First generation adult PRs don't do NS but their sons have to if they want to retain their PR or to work/study here.
Need your help to formulate an effective and appropriate counter response. Because of nature of facebook, cannot have lengthy discourse lah... must be short, sharp and sweet response (best if it's witty too...).....
So, how's best to proceed now? would like to get some views from bros here...


[email protected]

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Someone in PAP has said, "Vote is a privilege, not a right." It means nothing when the "privilege of voting" of the citizens could just be taken away by the PAP government. Next.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[NamQiong]

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</NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:01 pm </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 16) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>18919.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>I'm now onto his facebook liao... this is the 1st Q I asked him:
Kojak BtI would just like to ask the Minister what's the difference between being a PR and being a Singaporean (well, for one thing, I know that we've got to do NS. PR don't)?
his reply:
George Yeo PRs don't vote. First generation adult PRs don't do NS but their sons have to if they want to retain their PR or to work/study here.
Need your help to formulate an effective and appropriate counter response. Because of nature of facebook, cannot have lengthy discourse lah... must be short, sharp and sweet response (best if it's witty too...).....
So, how's best to proceed now? would like to get some views from bros here...


[email protected]

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Pls dont, you will make PAP apologist WP member Marcus Yap aka Lockeliberal very upset if you dare to challenge any of his his beloved PAP minister. You dont want this Pro-PAP dog to start barking at you do you?

 

[wikiphile]

Someone in PAP has said, "Vote is a privilege, not right." It means nothing when the "privilege of voting" of the citizens could just be taken away by the PAP government. Next.

Goh Meng Seng

Name and quote your source and stop pointing your fat fingers

 

[SIFU]

i would ask GY : can i convert my citizenship into 1st generation PR so that I can siam NS (2 + 10 years)?

 

[chewed]

Tell him that citizens don't vote too because of the GRC system

then he will tell you it's up to the opposition parties to contest all the wards.

 

[makapaaa]

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Ask him...
1. Why 1st generation PRs can be given free scholarships worth hundreds of thousands (including living allowances) per person while not having to serve NS while Singaporeans who have to serve NS and years of reserve service need to take up huge study loans to go to varsity?
2. Why are kids of citizens not given priority over those of PRs in Primary 1 registration?
3. What are the causes for low birth rate in Singapore? Will importing foreigners mindlessly can solve the root causes or worsen them? Will ordinary Singaporeans having to take 30-year mortgage before they can pay for ever smaller HDB flats and without job security solve the problem?
4. What's the unemployment rate of Singapore-born citizens - both in absolute no. and in %? Given this no., does he still feel that foreigners are creating jobs for Singaporeans or the other way round personally?
5. Before foreigners were being imported mindlessly, Singapore was number 1 or 2 in productivity in the world, but why has it dropped like shit since then?
6. What makes him think that he and the other ministers deserve to be paid several times more than the President of USA while unable to have ​

• Minimum wage LAW, ​
• Citizens-first labour LAW and​
• Institutional social welfare​

like in other countries where the govt is much more lowly paid and ​

• When average wages of Singaporeans have stagnated at levels 2 decades ago? ​

And what does he feel about the fact that he and his ministers are ​

• Being given a minimum wage that is benchmarked to the highest paid in the land and ​
• Automatically entitled to lifetime pension when they reach 55 at the same time even when they are still employed by the government?​

7. What minimum family income does he feel it is enough for a family of 6 (2 parents, 2 school-going children and 2 retired parents' parents) to survive on?
8. Why does it cost $3.8M per MRT station to install glass doors for Singapore while only $870k per MRT station for Taiwan by ST Electronics? http://singsupplies.com/showthread.php?t=35192
9. What does he mean by
"...everyone has to "remember their place in society before engaging in political debate", and not consider themselves as being equal with the government."

George Yeo
(The Straits Times, 1995)
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"If you are not of a certain intellectual class, don't even think of debating with me, you should stick to the Internet instead."

[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Sans-Serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Sans-Serif]Remind him that we're NOT interested in him regurgitating the official stand, but we want to know his own personal opinions. Request him to reply straight to the point as a THINKING ADULT and deserving of his INTELLECTUAL CLASS.[/FONT]​

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[annexa]

George Yeo PRs don't vote. First generation adult PRs don't do NS but their sons have to if they want to retain their PR or to work/study here.

Simple. Do we award PR to those who never stepped onto Singapore soil?

If he says no, he is lying. If he say yes, Cannot Sing will be in deep shit.

 

[TeeKee]

of all the 84 MPs...

why you all wanna whack my brother in Christ Georgie?

he's a Jesus believer you know....LOL!

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

excellent questions...you deserve my points of the day

ps...opps just found out i have given you points before and need to spread the 'love' around...sorry but great post, once again

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Ask him...
1. Why 1st generation PRs can be given free scholarships worth hundreds of thousands (including living allowances) per person while not having to serve NS while Singaporeans who have to serve NS and years of reserve service need to take up huge study loans to go to varsity?
2. Why are kids of citizens not given priority over those of PRs in Primary 1 registration?
3. What are the causes for low birth rate in Singapore? Will importing foreigners mindlessly can solve the root causes or worsen them? Will ordinary Singaporeans having to take 30-year mortgage before they can pay for ever smaller HDB flats and without job security solve the problem?
4. What's the unemployment rate of Singapore-born citizens - both in absolute no. and in %? Given this no., does he still feel that foreigners are creating jobs for Singaporeans or the other way round personally?
5. Before foreigners were being imported mindlessly, Singapore was number 1 or 2 in productivity in the world, but why has it dropped like shit since then?
6. What makes him think that he and the other ministers deserve to be paid several times more than the President of USA while unable to have ​

• Minimum wage LAW, ​
• Citizens-first labour LAW and​
• Institutional social welfare​

like in other countries where the govt is much more lowly paid and ​

• When average wages of Singaporeans have stagnated at levels 2 decades ago? ​

And what does he feel about the fact that he and his ministers are ​

• Being given a minimum wage that is benchmarked to the highest paid in the land and ​
• Automatically entitled to lifetime pension when they reach 55 at the same time even when they are still employed by the government?​

7. What minimum family income does he feel it is enough for a family of 6 (2 parents, 2 school-going children and 2 retired parents' parents) to survive on?
8. Why does it cost $3.8M per MRT station to install glass doors for Singapore while only $870k per MRT station for Taiwan by ST Electronics? http://singsupplies.com/showthread.php?t=35192
9. What does he mean by
"...everyone has to "remember their place in society before engaging in political debate", and not consider themselves as being equal with the government."

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[jw5]

Someone in PAP has said, "Vote is a privilege, not a right." It means nothing when the "privilege of voting" of the citizens could just be taken away by the PAP government. Next.

Goh Meng Seng

Remember the time when they were considering giving some people more votes than others?

 

[po2wq]

"If you are not of a certain intellectual class, don't even think of debating with me, you should stick to the Internet instead."

ask him ...

u cum 2 ze internet 4 wat? ... go back 2 ur f**kin certain intellectual class ... :oIo:

 

[Ramseth]

Differences?

PRs don't hold Singapore passports, they still hold their respective home countries' passports and citizenships. If Singapore is sinking, PRs can go back to their home countries. Singapore can't stop them and their home countries can't refuse them.

Singapore citizens hold Singapore passports. In good times, of course the Singapore passport is very useful and welcome by most of the world. In bad times however, Singapore can refuse Singapore passportholders exit out of Singapore, regardless of liable for NS or not, male or female, young or old. And in bad times, I don't think that the Singapore passportholders would be so welcome by foreign countries anymore.

Solution?

1. Secure yourselves as PRs somewhere else first, then come back to Singapore if there're still grounds to mine for you here. Have a backdoor open and be prepared to leave at the first sign of trouble. Reference: HK pre- and post-1997.

Or;

2. Nevermind the other countries and pastures, options and contingencies. Be prepared to live, die in and for Singapore.