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BANGKOK: More than 100K at 9pm. Many More Coming. JAMS 50km Long. ArbiSHIT SHITTING!

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If you incite violence and goad people to systematically destroy public property then you are as good as terrorist even in USA eyes. SThere is different law for such people. Tell HRW to go fly a kite.

It was when Red Shirts started becoming violent that Gov cracked down. and rightly so.
 

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If you incite violence and goad people to systematically destroy public property then you are as good as terrorist even in USA eyes. SThere is different law for such people. Tell HRW to go fly a kite.

It was when Red Shirts started becoming violent that Gov cracked down. and rightly so.

Which government or PM has the moral authority to rule the country when it uses its weapon to kill its own citizens?

An effective government could have resolved the problem before it escalated to the present stage. Bottom line : it's a useless government and should be thrown or voted out.
 

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Which government or PM has the moral authority to rule the country when it uses its weapon to kill its own citizens?

An effective government could have resolved the problem before it escalated to the present stage. Bottom line : it's a useless government and should be thrown or voted out.


Very true bro. Points for you.

This govt has no legitimacy whatsoever except from the barrels of the guns.

In fact, they had infiltrators inside the Reds' camp and it was caught on tape :
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Who was the guy in white T's and shorts and fighting alongside the Thai Army ?
 

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They killed those seeking refuge in the temple, what bad karma will befall them ?


An eyewitness account :
By Andrew Buncombe in Bangkok

There was nothing for us to do but take cover, as the incoming fire sprayed and hissed. People lay flat, terrified, crouched behind cars, tried to squeeze themselvesinto the meagre protection offered by the wheel hubs. They took cover frantically, diving behind not just cars, but trucks, trees and even flower pots.

This was near to the entrance of a Buddhist temple, a supposed oasis, a place of prayer. But we knew its sanctity had been fatally breached when the crack of rifles and the sound of bullets ricocheted close to the temple's souvenir shop.

One after the other, the injured were carried, rushed and dragged inside the temple compound. On bamboo mats, blankets anything to hand, they were carried in bloodied and screaming. Fearless Red Shirt volunteers did what they could. They used towels, bandages and plasters to try to treat ugly bullet wounds that needed surgery, not first aid kits.


The sign outside the temple says "apayatan" a word indicating that here in the centre of Bangkok is a safe zone – a haven. Yesterday afternoon, as buildings across the Thai capital blazed, thick black smoke billowing into the air, the streets outside the revered, 15O-year-old Buddhist compound had been transformed into an ugly, lethal battle zone from which no one could leave.

Of those killed yesterday, several died directly outside the temple – and many, many more wounded. Those sheltering inside the temple were just as vulnerable. In one of the compound's buildings, seven bodies were laid out on the floor.

Early yesterday, thousands of Red Shirt protesters fled the intersection that they had occupied for more than two months after government troops finally forced their way into the barricaded encampment and the protest leaders told them it "was all over". They moved to occupy the sprawling temple area, at the centre of which sits a series of gold-edged buildings. The mood was tense and anxious, but people believed – or so they prayed and hoped – that the troops would not turn their temple into a place of violence.

"After the leadership told us to go home, we came here. They told us it was all over," said one of the Red Shirts, a woman who had taken shelter within the compound. Another woman, Malee Ngaun Sanga, added: "As long as I have lived here I have never seen any government so evil."

And then things rapidly changed. From the west, we could hear loud firing as troops advanced towards the temple area. Some reporters who had been outside said that a small number of Red Shirts were firing back with sling-slots, hand guns and petrol bombs. A photographer said he saw a man shot in front of him as he ran away from a line of soldiers, two bullets hitting him in the back and apparently exiting from the chest. The image that photographer had taken did not look good.

Suddenly the firing intensified. The explosions grew louder and appeared to get nearer to us and the crack of weapons became more frequent, their cap-gun noises giving no clue as to their deadly capability.

A bare-chested young man ran in. He had a large, ugly hole in the lower back. Was he struck as he ran or had he already been wounded when he came in? It was too frenetic, too chaotic to be sure. Either way, as soon as they became aware of his injuries, a group of medics ran to his aid, dragging him to what they hoped was safety. The medics turned him over on to his stomach, pressing down with bandages and towels. One woman in particular appeared utterly fearless.

Soon afterwards, another victim was rushed in through the entrance to the temple. He appeared older, frail. It looked as if he had been shot in the shoulder. Once again, the volunteer medics rushed to his help. The man's moans were soft amid the ongoing clatter of gunfire.

That's when I – one of just a handful of journalists still present at the temple – was hit in the outer thigh by what appeared to be several pieces of shrapnel. They later transpired to be large pellets from a shotgun that buried themselves deep – perhaps three inches – into the flesh. Where had this shooting come from? Were soldiers now deliberately firing at journalists or did they simply not care? The medics dived over, pouring cold water on the burning wound and pressing down bandages to stop them. It was effectively just a bad flesh wound but the fragments of lead burned and stung. There were countless people with wounds, but the medics – who had set up a pharmacy and emergency clinic amid the temple's lush, exotic foliage could have done no more.

Precisely which positions the firing was coming from was unclear and why the troops would be shooting so widely, with so little caution, was unclear. Was it coming from snipers or from the regular troops? It seems almost certain it was coming from the troops. And who within the chain of command was ordering troops to fire so recklessly, so close to so many people, the vast overwhelming majority of whom were unarmed, unthreatening and who – as they had been asked by the authorities – had just left their place in the city centre. Had they had an opportunity to leave, safely, then they would have. Everyone recognised this was the end of their struggle, or at least this stage of it. Pressing, vital questions need to be answered by the highest levels.

Last night, the temple, built during the era of King Rama IV when the surrounding area was lakes and canals rather than sky-scrapers and shopping malls, was a cross between a refugee camp and a hospital. As orange-clad monks chanted prayers, people went about the task of trying to find a place to sleep, laying down sleeping mats, trying to arrange something to eat. Most had the most meagre possessions, many washing their single change of clothes every day. The mood was one of anxiety and uncertainty. How long would they have to stay?

The terrible irony was that a well-equipped police hospital – where staff had supposedly been preparing for this day for months in advance – was located just yards from the entrance to the temple. The road outside – now a deadly shooting gallery – was simply too dangerous to cross.

What was incongruous was why the injured could not be moved to safety. Some of the Red Shirts said that hardcore elements were still firing at the troops, who they feared would respond with the heavy weapons which they had been firing all day. With an 8pm curfew imposed and people too petrified to move, there was little option but for us to be laid out on deckchairs, stretchers or mats. Some sat quietly, others moaned. There was a feeling of utter helplessness.

Eventually, after the intervention of the office of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva – the man whom the protesters have been so desperately seeking to remove from office – some sort of ceasefire deal was brokered. Had the injured not included a foreign journalist whose Canadian colleague and translator made furious efforts to get help, would so many, high-level efforts have been made? Perhaps not. Either way, the Red Cross was able to send ambulances in convoy to the temple to take away the most badly injured. They said the injured women and children would be collected later today.

The injured were removed, with priority given to those most badly hurt.

The first to leave was the man shot in the lower back. Next was a man shot in the leg. As he was lifted on the stretcher and carried towards the ambulances, he moaned and cried. He pressed his palms together as if to say a prayer, perhaps both for himself and his country.

A man who had been shot in the thigh and I were taken out in the final two ambulances. That man's name was Narongsak Singmae, he was 49 and from the north-east of the country. As he lay waiting to be taken away to hospital, he said: "I cannot believe they are shooting in a temple."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/eyewitness-under-fire-in-thailand-1977647.html
 
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**yawn**
walaneh sibeh sian liao lah...
any other new news?
**yawn**
 

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**yawn**
walaneh sibeh sian liao lah...
any other new news?
**yawn**

You like to cow peh cow bu a lot hor? And also asking why no pics for reports in crime section, here and there when we see zero contribution from you. Don't whine when the OA asses you. :biggrin:


 

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When they tried shooting at law enforcement officers. You try that in the US and you will be shot dead. This is no difference.

As we can see these are not your regular grade protestors. Look at how they systematically burnt down the city. Look at the weaponary they have. Just imagine a group of protestors armed with grenades and lobbing them at law enforcement in any major US city. They will instantly be blown to bits by SWAT team.

I was surprised that PM allowed protestors to go on for so many months. He is just too soft and nice.

Which government or PM has the moral authority to rule the country when it uses its weapon to kill its own citizens?

An effective government could have resolved the problem before it escalated to the present stage. Bottom line : it's a useless government and should be thrown or voted out.
 

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Picking up the pieces



May 22, 2010
Picking up the pieces

BANGKOK - THAILAND picked up the pieces on Friday after violence and mayhem triggered by a crackdown on anti-government protests, as the focus swung to recovery and reconciliation in a divided nation.

Across central Bangkok a huge clean-up was under way after a terrifying outbreak of looting and burning that saw some 36 major buildings go up in flames including the stock exchange and the nation's biggest mall.

City workers used everything from brooms to bulldozers to clear debris left behind after two months of rolling demonstrations, including the remnants of towering barricades the Reds had used to occupy a top shopping district. -- AFP

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A Thai firefighter stands in front of a bank set on fire by demonstrators in Bangkok. Thai troops hunted for militant protesters who left parts of Bangkok in flames as the authorities extended a night curfew in the capital despite tentative signs of a return to normality. -- PHOTO: AFP





 

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Thai policemen secure the stock exchange building that was set on fire during clashes between anti- government 'red shirt' protesters and security forces in central Bangkok. Thai authorities restored order in Bangkok on Thursday after a night of rioting and fires that veered towards anarchy as troops took control of an encampment occupied by thousands of anti-government protesters for six weeks. -- PHOTO: REUTERS


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A man sprays water at the next door building that was set on fire by anti-government 'red shirt' protesters in Bangkok. -- PHOTO: REUTERS


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A police officer arranges weapons seized from 'Red Shirt' anti-government protesters before a news conference at
the Thai Army 11th Infantry Regiment in Bangkok. -- PHOTO: REUTERS



 

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Thai monks leave the site of the Red shirt anti-government protesters camp in the financial center of Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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Thai firemen gather at the site of a fire at Thailand's biggest shopping mall - Central World - after it was set ablaze the day before following an army assault on an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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Anti-government 'red shirt' supporters exit a temple after surrendering to police from their encampment in Bangkok's upscale shopping district. -- PHOTO: REUTERS





 

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A Thai soldier dismantles the main stage used by the Red Shirt anti-government protesters in the comercial center of Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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Thai firemen spray hoses on Thailand's biggest shopping mall - Central World - after it was set ablaze the day before following an army assault on an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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A red flag hangs in front of Thailand's biggest shopping mall - Central World - after it was set ablaze the day before following an army assault on an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP





 

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A mask of former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, red rose and banners are left by anti-government 'red shirt' protesters after clashes with country's security forces in central Bangkok. -- PHOTO: REUTERS


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A woman cries as she leans over the dead body of an anti-government protestor killed in a gunbattle the day before at a temple which had been turned into a shelter within an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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A Thai soldier shows a firecracker bomb left behind by Red Shirt anti-government protestors inside their camp in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP





 

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A police officer stop the media with a heart shaped claper used by 'Red Shirt' protesters, from getting close to the site of a fire at Thailand's biggest shopping mall - Central World - after it was set ablaze the day before following an army assault on an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP


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Cleaners sweep the grounds that were occupied by anti-government protesters for over two-months in Bangkok, Thailand. -- PHOTO: AP


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Thai firemen spray water onto the site of a fire at Thailand's biggest shopping mall - Central World - after it was set ablaze the day before following an army assault on an anti-government protest site in downtown Bangkok. -- PHOTO: AFP



 

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A Buddhist monk is escorted to Police headquarters in downtown Bangkok, after being moved from a temple which had been turned into a shelter an anti-government protest site. Thai police escorted thousands of protesters out of a Buddhist temple where they had cowered overnight after nine people were killed there in gunbattles. -- PHOTO: AFP


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People's messages of protest, anger and best wishes with photographs of leaders of anti-government protesters are attached on a notice board at Lumpini park, in Bangkok,Thailand. -- PHOTO: AP



 

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I can perceived that there will be a prolong or if not everlasting divisiveness in Thailand and the probability of Abishit being assasinated not by the Red Shirt but within his camp by an army general seeking for power and authorithy in an imminent coup d'etat after the death of the antipathetic, worthless king soon.
 

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A Thai women embraces a Red Shirt anti-government protester as he arrives from Bangkok at the train station in Chiang Mai, Thailand. - AFP



 

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Thailand's Reds return to heartland in disarray


Thailand's Reds return to heartland in disarray
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A Thai 'Red Shirt' anti-government protester bursts into tears as their leaders announce their surrender in Bangkok.

CHIANG MAI, Thailand : After a military offensive that crushed anti-government rallies in Bangkok, angry "Red Shirts" are returning to their northern heartland in disarray, with their leaders in custody or hiding. Hundreds of Reds poured off trains in Thailand's second-largest city Chiang Mai to a hero's welcome after staging rolling demonstrations that paralysed parts of the capital and left 85 dead and 1,900 injured since March.

"I lived in Bangkok for two months. My heart still wants to carry on this fight. This pull back for me is just temporary," said Wirash, a 43-year-old musician.
The Red Shirt military strategist, a renegade general known as Seh Daeng, was shot in the head by a sniper days before an overwhelming offensive Wednesday that forced the movement's top leadership to surrender.

"The Red Shirt does not have leaders now. I do not know what to do. The police have caught our leaders," said Wirash, who gave only his first name. "For now I have no plans to go back to Bangkok." Wirash echoed the fears of political analysts when he said he believed the shootings of his comrades in several clashes with security forces could "spark a civil war in Thailand."

"This crisis will not end now. The Red Shirt people may adopt other strategies but at the moment we do not have a leader or a plan. We do not have a direction," he said. Thailand is deeply split between the Reds, mostly urban and rural poor who are demanding the ouster of a government they condemn as undemocratic, and rival pro-establishment "Yellow Shirts" who represent the nation's elites.

A night-time curfew is in place until Sunday in the capital as well as the Reds' heartland in the rural north and northeast, amid fears the trouble could spread. Four provincial halls have already been torched. "They have gone home with that sense of resentment, that bitterness and it will not end there," said Pavin Chachavalpongpun from the Institute for Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore.

"So it will be no surprise if we hear of more violent riots across the country, especially the north and northeast, because these people do not have faith in the election process, so they turn to violent alternatives." Pavin said that having large numbers of Reds, with no hope and nothing to lose, roaming around without a leadership was a major problem for Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

"There's a loss of communication between Red Shirts and I think it's very dangerous for the government because they need to deal with the Red Shirts and they don't know where they are, or who they are receiving instructions from." Chiang Mai is the home town of the Reds' hero, ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra who was ousted in a 2006 coup. His elected allies were ejected by a court ruling, and Abhisit was appointed in an army-backed parliamentary vote.

Thaksin is idolised by many Reds for his populist policies, including cheap healthcare and village funds. But Thailand's elites see him as corrupt, authoritarian and a threat to the revered monarchy. For now, the anti-government force in Chiang Mai seems impotent. Outside the train station, a lone Red on a motorcyclist and carrying a Red flag rode round and round in circles.

Another man yelled into his mobile phone, relating the events in Bangkok and cursing the military while a group of policemen stood next to him, smiling mildly. "Here in Chiang Mai the locals want to fight back. But there is a lack of leadership and members here do not have much organisational skills," said Dej Khiaonarong, a Red Shirt sympathiser.

Many returning protesters went back to their villages and untended paddy fields, while others were trucked to a nearby Reds radio station, where supporters pressed them with packets of food and bottled drinks. Nikhom, a local Red Shirt leader who welcomed the protesters at the radio station, said the curfew had temporary halted their plans to organise new gatherings.

"But people are very angry with Prime Minister Abhisit. For now Abhisit you win. But we are not giving up our struggle," he said. - AFP/jy



 
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