Baey: The real question is whether AIM has fulfilled commitment

[Seee3]

Baey is very clear in his understanding of the situation. He is correct.
Is AHTC the govt run by the govt? Nope, its a political organisation run by WP that awarded management contract to FMSS which is also WP owned.

I think there is a confusion between Town Council and their "Managing Agent" e.g. EMSC, CPS?... for the Town Council. Had the funding for the software been fully paid by the "Managing Agents" and is then leased it to the TC, then there is absolutely no issue when EMS, CPS... chose to sell. However, if payment was made using TCs' funds which come from collection of SC & CC, then indirectly, the residents have ownership to the software. The disposal of this asset which the residents' have contributed for its purchase is the problem.

To put in an extreme scenario, it was like a TC building a beautiful playground for the residents using residents' SC/CC and then sold it a private company after which any one wanting to play there must pay an entrance fee. To justify such an arrangement, the residents will be appeased if it can be shown clearly why the playground was funded by TC in the first place and not paid by the Pte Co, and why selling it and leasing it back is the most economical option. They have tried explaining but may not be clear enough. The assurance that this pte company is maintaining the playground properly and is not overcharging the residents will not answer to the concern of the residents because with such a precedence, if a dishonest party takes over the running of the TC, things can go really wrong. By the same argument, WP can do the same for FMSS. (based on your post, is a WP owned co) which is not good at all.

 

[Kinana]

I think there is a confusion between Town Council and their "Managing Agent" e.g. EMSC, CPS?... for the Town Council. Had the funding for the software been fully paid by the "Managing Agents" and is then leased it to the TC, then there is absolutely no issue when EMS, CPS... chose to sell. However, if payment was made using TCs' funds which come from collection of SC & CC, then indirectly, the residents have ownership to the software. The disposal of this asset which the residents' have contributed for its purchase is the problem.

To put in an extreme scenario, it is like a TC building a very beautiful playground for the residents using residents' SC/CC and then sold it a private company after which any one wanting to play there must pay an entrance fee.

Disposal? More like a sale where money was received and goes into the TC funds.
In return, the software was managed for a fee which resulted in savings of money and manpower and time for the TCs.
Isn't that a good move? The TCs get money from teh sale and save more money later.

To justify such an arrangement, the residents will be appeased if it can be shown clearly why the playground was funded by TC in By the same argument, WP can do the same for FMSS. (based on your post, is a WP owned co) which is not good at all.

There is a difference tween the AIM and FMSS contracts. One was an open bid while the other was simply awarded without choice at all. And there is no evidence of any benefits to the residents or TC at all. Its pure cronyism.

 

[LordElrond]

Baey Ayam cannot make it sia.... what a shamezzz

 

[enterprise2]

"......To put in an extreme scenario, it was like a TC building a beautiful playground for the residents using residents' SC/CC and then sold it a private company after which any one wanting to play there must pay an entrance fee. "

Wah, if this happen in my condo, the MA and MC will get lynched!!

 

[Kinana]

"......To put in an extreme scenario, it was like a TC building a beautiful playground for the residents using residents' SC/CC and then sold it a private company after which any one wanting to play there must pay an entrance fee. "

Wah, if this happen in my condo, the MA and MC will get lynched!!

No you won't, you will be cheering.

 

[Bigfuck]

Baey is very clear in his understanding of the situation. He is correct.
Is AHTC the govt run by the govt? Nope, its a political organisation run by WP that awarded management contract to FMSS which is also WP owned.

Wah, Kanina PAP IB is now telling all lawyers in Singapore they are wrong. Town council people not public servants but political party members. Come on, say TCB is a PAP fool!
Gotcha, Kanina PAP IB. Like I said wait till 3013. Then Kanina PAP IB can make arguments.

Because if the logic is accepted at this point in time, Singapore must be isolated from the rest of the world as the logic is so Kanina that we will not be recognized as anything but animals to be slaughtered.
lol.

 

[Alamaking]

You fucking don't know your own mother, you son of a $20 prostitute!

Wah laoz, dog barking again, haiyoh.... LOL

 

[Debonerman]

Wah laoz, dog barking again, haiyoh.... LOL

Fucking thick skin sei hao hai don't know the definition of shame in the English language. Tiu Leh Lo Mo Kor Hai Hum Kar Chan!

 

[elephanto]

Town Councils are political associations??? Are they so registered? If not then isnt there some illegality?

According to his defiinition, then everything else could be a political association according to the great PAP dictionary of "As and When I Wanna Screw you"

Attaboy! Short & Sharp brudder Prometheus ! Especially the PAP Dictionary part!

 

[elephanto]

Mr Alamaking, yr issues with debonerman aside, when he is fucking kinana, u stay out and mouth your clownish ways elsewhere, can? U r kool with 3 Kingdoms and Orangee, but kinAna deserves no allies intended or otherwise

 

[elephanto]

See Gin Nah Kinana,

u r everything people hate about PAP!

i dun give a shot whether u r a card carrying pap member or not, but u r a disgrace.

For all his & others vulgarities, debonerman and even rusty are genuine people who speak with gusto and authenticity.

U with yr 'Sirs' and contrived civility is worse: hypocrisy personified.

yr supposed logic reveals:
- no original thought - just mouthing the same old platitudes
- what's even worse, your contempt for common man & that fucking, make that FUCKING
self righteousness and pompous smart arse know-it-all veneer, revulsive!

- it is obvious u r part of PAP thinking that hey! We also need our own gutter netizens who will carry the fight into new media, but boy, u lack credibility! Like some parsimonious holy man (self proclaimed no less) trying to talk dirty n act macho! Fuck you, unlerstand?

- skpongol , cass888 etc all no different.

u hv every right to be here to play yr sinister part.
But yo, son, drop the pretense & hypocrisy and stop repeating motherhood statements cloaked as 'logic'.

this post is my venting & I hv no expectation that u can comprehend much less agree.

a dog will always eat its own poo, and I am insulting all lovers of dogs by comparing u to them.

u r damn right I hold u and the likes of u in utmost contempt.

to show u yr own shitface, I end by copying u: Thank you SIR for reading this.

Have yourself a miserable day....

 

[zhihau]

See Gin Nah Kinana

bro,

do we blame this sort of behavior on poor parenting? :*::*::*:

where is kimama... ?

 

[streetsmart73]

bro,

do we blame this sort of behavior on poor parenting? :*::*::*:

where is kimama... ?

hi there


1. bro, our resident bitch/cunt.
2. had just remove its big foot out of its mouther hoh.
3. under the direct instructions from its grand masters.
4. after the press release of the tc review thing