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Chitchat Aunty Ho's Gulfstream 550

Narong Wongwan

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Dun fuck care if it’s SG’s Air Force One or its a lease.
Just hope someone shoot it down when the evil couple is in it.
 

Kotekbengkok

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First, in this day and age all aircraft are equipped with ADSB (goggle please) which allows live tacking of aircart every time it flies. Nothing to do with commercial or charter. Even new single engine Cessnas are equipped with ADSB. So the entire archive of the flights done by this G550 for the past year can be viewed on a number of tracking websites on the internet for a small subscription fee. And the history clearly shows this plane spends 80% of the time circling Singapore and hardly any commercial flights.

On pilot training, it's far cheaper to do all the training on state of the art Level D simulators which are so realistic that it allows the pilots to move from simulator straight to the actual aircraft immediately . So what is the $105 m contract about. Looks some some kind of left pocket, right pocket subsidy of some kind, borne by taxpayers.

Most major casinos which include MBS and Genting own their own aircraft. Genting has business jets based in Asia and the US. These are managed and operated by 3rd party operators on the casinos' behalf that's why its not common knowledge , plus the need to be discreet. You can see them on the tarmac at Changi and Macau. All white and no branding livery of any kind.

If the politicians really want to save money, your way is definitely not the way.They should just fly commercial ( plenty of empty First Class seats these days) or charter a private jet from the many commercial air charter companies on a pay-as-you-use ad hoc basis. No headache or wasteful and extravagant financial outlays and commitment running into millions.! Many multi millionaires who used to own jets have sold theirs and charter when they have to.

First off, the flight tracking is not always comprehensive and may not include each and every flight. Sometimes the flight tracking is based on witness reports of plane spotters at the various airports. Usually, flights that are tracked comprehensively are those from airlines and are non charter. That is my understanding. When its flying around singapore, its fulfilling a $105 million contract it signed with the RSAF to provide flying training and instructors for its CAEW G550s. So, it is making money. I suppose the RSAF could have send the pilots to the US for flight training on the G550 (which is a new aircraft in their inventory), or find it cheaper to just contract to Pacific Flight Services (ST Aerospace subsidiary) to do this. My understanding is that MBS and Genting use a charter plane broker to fly in the whales. Many of the whales themselves have their own private planes anyway, hence there is no requirement for the casinos to fly them in. In any case, do the math.

It costs about USD$8000-$9000 per hour to charter a G550. The PFS one that WHore Jinx flies in takes a max of 16 pax. If she were to fly commercial instead of charter, it would be about $10000 for a first class ticket one way. But of course, she does not fly alone. She has an entourage. Lets say 2 SO (and they would be expected to be next or near her and not in economy), a private secretary/personal assistance, and various VPs, and directors of Stomachsick, relatives, etc. Lets say minimum 6, max 10? AT $10,000 a pop on an SQ business class one way, chartering a G550 suddenly does not make that expense as overly expensive as it sounds.
 

Narong Wongwan

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First, in this day and age all aircraft are equipped with ADSB (goggle please) which allows live tacking of aircart every time it flies. Nothing to do with commercial or charter. Even new single engine Cessnas are equipped with ADSB. So the entire archive of the flights done by this G550 for the past year can be viewed on a number of tracking websites on the internet for a small subscription fee. And the history clearly shows this plane spends 80% of the time circling Singapore and hardly any commercial flights.

On pilot training, it's far cheaper to do all the training on state of the art Level D simulators which are so realistic that it allows the pilots to move from simulator straight to the actual aircraft immediately . So what is the $105 m contract about. Looks some some kind of left pocket, right pocket subsidy of some kind, borne by taxpayers.

Most major casinos which include MBS and Genting own their own aircraft. Genting has business jets based in Asia and the US. These are managed and operated by 3rd party operators on the casinos' behalf that's why its not common knowledge , plus the need to be discreet. You can see them on the tarmac at Changi and Macau. All white and no branding livery of any kind.

If the politicians really want to save money, your way is definitely not the way.They should just fly commercial ( plenty of empty First Class seats these days) or charter a private jet from the many commercial air charter companies on a pay-as-you-use ad hoc basis. No headache or wasteful and extravagant financial outlays and commitment running into millions.! Many multi millionaires who used to own jets have sold theirs and charter when they have to.

Then why this plane always circling Sg?
Spy on sinkies? Or Galilee take joy rides?
 

Papsmearer

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I suppose we should all thank God for small miracles. After all, Stomasick/PAP/Singapore Govt. could have taken one of the recently retired SQ A380, or the previous A340 and outfitted it in luxury for Jinx and The Gay One. If they put gold faucets, a pool table, stripper pole, etc inside the plane and use it exclusively for Gay Loong and Whore Jinx, I doubt if you would get more then a mild protest from oppos. 70% kong cheebye will still vote them the next election. Old Fart after all outfitted an SQ 747 as a flying hospital just for one round trip from SIN-LON, and there was narry a squeak of protest in zikapore. I say give them this G550 for whatever purposes they want and pray they don't upgrade to a A380/777/ or some other thing much bigger and more luxurious. Because if they did, we would have to sit there and take it.
 

Froggy

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Lee Hsien Long probably thinking “Hey peasant sinkies, song boh? Limpeh jin jiak song”

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Froggy

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Dotard got his Trump Jet
so...
Bapok wants his Loong Jet loh..

Don’t forget PAP and their dignity theory

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"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
 
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hofmann

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As you said, they can ride in any flying contraption they want to. But the point is, it must be subject to some form of oversight or public scrutiny, especially since public monies are involved.

I suppose we should all thank God for small miracles. After all, Stomasick/PAP/Singapore Govt. could have taken one of the recently retired SQ A380, or the previous A340 and outfitted it in luxury for Jinx and The Gay One. If they put gold faucets, a pool table, stripper pole, etc inside the plane and use it exclusively for Gay Loong and Whore Jinx, I doubt if you would get more then a mild protest from oppos. 70% kong cheebye will still vote them the next election. Old Fart after all outfitted an SQ 747 as a flying hospital just for one round trip from SIN-LON, and there was narry a squeak of protest in zikapore. I say give them this G550 for whatever purposes they want and pray they don't upgrade to a A380/777/ or some other thing much bigger and more luxurious. Because if they did, we would have to sit there and take it.
 

EunoiaJAYCEE

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Smiley reminded me of this and here goes.

This jet was acquired by ST in 2012 ostensibly for training purpose. It cost close to USD55M and to hide from the MOF and the cabinet it was secured with a 20 year loan and so in ST books its an annual outlay of $3M.

Aunty and her husband no longer travel by SIA unless it trade delegation or accompanied by other Ministers.

It also used by to visit the Temasek Office in San Francisco opened conveniently in 2016.

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THIS BELONGS TO HO CHING???!!!!!!
 

scroobal

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The beneficial owner is Aunty. ST is her seat of power since she began her corporate life there. Its where she made her losses and they help cover it up until Richard Hu has to reveal in Parliament. Even today, look at how Aunty has been moving things in to salvage SMRT. Khaw called the Taiwanese but she brought in 8 people from ST to shore it up.

She is even managed to fool some idiots to think that ST invested in the plane to help prop up our casino and medical tourism. As though she cares.

Most people would be none the wiser until the Filipino press wrote a sterling article on how humble the Golden couple were flying in in a small unidentifiable private jet to attend the regional meeting while the rest were on Corporate Boeings.

We all know how secretive she is. Singaporeans interactions with her had been over nice picture and short soupy comments on FB.

THIS BELONGS TO HO CHING???!!!!!!
 

gatehousethetinkertailor

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Most people would be none the wiser until the Filipino press wrote a sterling article on how humble the Golden couple were flying in in a small unidentifiable private jet to attend the regional meeting while the rest were on Corporate Boeings.

We all know how secretive she is. Singaporeans interactions with her had been over nice picture and short soupy comments on FB.

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hofmann

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Isn't it a good thing that she sent 8 (?) Of her dsta engineers to help out?

I'm sure the caliber of the dsta engineers will be a boon to the engineering needs of the SMRT now.

She shouldnt stop at 8, send in the entire Calvary.
 
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