Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population pap

[moolightaffairs]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

A strange and puzzling question

Why would Indian companies want to set up business in Singapore and incur all the high costs, wages, rentals, living expenses, business expenses etc etc while at the same time employing mainly Indian FTs from India? (This issue is also applicable to Chinese companies or companies of any third world country when the cost is cheaper, if they also bring in the whole village and the schools here). Would it be more cost effective to locate in India and enjoy the comparative and competitive advantages vis a vis a set up here? I can understand if they are here to tap on the skilled local workforce. But they are not. They are bring their own workforce here.

One possible reason, they are getting their businesses right here and earning higher revenue to pay for the higher costs. A second possibility, if it is a western MNC, the cost is borne by the MNC and if they could keep the bottom line healthy, no one is complaining. A third possibility is to occupy Singapore and eventually turn it into another India city with Indians becoming a majority in the island.

What else could be a good reason for the Indian FTs to relocate schools, lock, stock and barrel to Singapore, and pay for all the higher expenses when the same business/school can remain in India at a fraction of the cost? The schools are run entirely by Indian teachers, Indian curriculum and Indian students. How many Indian schools are here and how many Indian FTs are here and how many are accompanied by their entire extended families?

It was reported that there are now 200,000 Indian PMETs here and growing. How many are exactly here including their dependents and how many have become citizens and not in the statistics? The percentage of Indians has risen by 2% or 66,000 from a citizen population of 3.3m.

If the whole population of residents, including PRs and EPs and WPs, were to be considered, what is the distribution of the different racial groups? Aided by the CECA and FTAs, are there bigger political and strategic objectives for foreigners to be moving into this island particularly for the two big countries like China and India?

Anyone got any statistics on this?


Posted by Chua Chin Leng aka redbean at 8:50 am

hi! usually those foreign companies come SG will bargain with gov for favourable conditions.
those smart ones will ask to buy lands and built their own buildings with a lot of freebies. (tax exemptions etc.)be it offices or warehouse.
after a few years of doing business here, will rent it out or even sell it to reits, rent it back and start to down scale the operations here.
they will make a tidy profit from the real estate compare the core business over years in sg.
business are profiteering from real estate in sg rather than the core business due to the rising land cost and rental by the land owner(gov=pap) and biggest landlord (GLC).

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

hi! usually those foreign companies come SG will bargain with gov for favourable conditions.
those smart ones will ask to buy lands and built their own buildings with a lot of freebies. (tax exemptions etc.)be it offices or warehouse.
after a few years of doing business here, will rent it out or even sell it to reits, rent it back and start to down scale the operations here.
they will make a tidy profit from the real estate compare the core business over years in sg.
business are profiteering from real estate in sg rather than the core business due to the rising land cost and rental by the land owner(gov=pap) and biggest landlord (GLC).

The sinkapore government has been suckered so many times by foreign business. Yet they continue to give away our tax dollars.

 

[Kinana]

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Not only SMEs but MNCs too will close shop or leave, leaving singkies with no jobs.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

 

[AhGuan]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

Not only SMEs but MNCs too will close shop or leave, leaving singkies with no jobs.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

Nobody is leaving. US and Europe is shit hole with all austerity measures and budget cuts. The area of future growth is in Asia. The air-pollution in China and Hong Kong is bad - expats wouldn't want to be based there. Singapore is the preferred country for MNCs to base their Asian HQ.

And yet, our govt don't know how to take advantage of this situation and squeeze the MNCs for the good of the citizens. Our govt still bend down to be screwed over by these MNCs.

 

[Kinana]

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Nobody is leaving. US and Europe is shit hole with all austerity measures and budget cuts. The area of future growth is in Asia. The air-pollution in China and Hong Kong is bad - expats wouldn't want to be based there. Singapore is the preferred country for MNCs to base their Asian HQ.

And yet, our govt don't know how to take advantage of this situation and squeeze the MNCs for the good of the citizens. Our govt still bend down to be screwed over by these MNCs.

It is exactly because of depressed job markets that businesses will relocate back west. They can also locate to Taiwan and Korea n even Japan or indeed China as so many have already done so.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

 

[AhGuan]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

It is exactly because of depressed job markets that businesses will relocate back west. They can also locate to Taiwan and Korea n even Japan or indeed China as so many have already done so.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

Nobody is going to Japan. Tonychat scared them with his radiation thread.

Korea doesn't give a shit to foreign MNCs.

Taiwan is earth quake zone.

China .... these expats will be ingesting chomium, arsenic, mercury, lead etc

Expats are not stupid. They still prefer Singapore.

 

[winnipegjets]

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It is exactly because of depressed job markets that businesses will relocate back west. They can also locate to Taiwan and Korea n even Japan or indeed China as so many have already done so.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

You will never fail to find comedy in your posting. Keep it up and you can win the moron of the year award.

Business are relocating to the west because there is a realization that the cost difference is marginal after accounting for freight. Do your math and you will see why locating in Asia is not as viable as it used to be. Sinkapore has no clue as to its niche in the global economy. With nothing to offer to MNCs and with no home grown expertise, it is drifting to irrelevance.

 

[moolightaffairs]

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you dont seem to understand economics.

the pap is subsidising businesses with cheap labour at the expense of social cost. the pap must allow businesses to pay true wages for SG labour when they do business in SG.

Can a business in SG get a SG cashier, with SG cost of housing, cost of living , SG cost of education at $1.2k? The pap allows businesses in SG to emply cheap foreigners as cashiers but not at true economic costs. SG and Singaporeans pay a social cost when the pap govt allows businesses to cheap foreigners who come in and litter, congest, pollute, etc..

that is what i am saying all these while! China bus drivers incident best example. pay everyone the same regardless of nationalities and Singaporean first policy. can't get Singaporean, then Malaysian or others. pay them the same pay as Singaporeans.

all the levy all bullshit. employer will get it back from those foreign workers by paying them lower pay.

 

[moolightaffairs]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

And yet, our govt don't know how to take advantage of this situation and squeeze the MNCs for the good of the citizens. Our govt still bend down to be screwed over by these MNCs.

that is the problem with pap! got all the cards but dunno how to play.
but pap only want mnc here to enrich themselves and their cronies, not the people.
pap will rather Singapore and Singaporeans be screwed just to enrich themselves.

 

[moolightaffairs]

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When the SME moves, you idiots are the ones who will suffer.

i think u are worry about about yourself, r u working in SME? or u r pap dogs? come bite me.

 

[moolightaffairs]

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The MNCs without foreign workers will also move. Better sell your house and car before you get the pink slip.

by all means tell them fuck off. Singaporeans not benefiting from all these mnc staffing all the foreigners.

 

[moolightaffairs]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

For example, how do you explain the fact that we have 200,000 Indian nationals here working in PMET jobs, when Singaporean PMETs were driving taxis?

kena one taxi uncle in his 50s. speak good English and can hold a conversation well. he was retrenched and unable to land a job for 1 yr plus so decided to drive taxi. he was an engineer.
he was telling me, he thought its ok if he is out of job and our own graduate can have a job. so he change his life style and his spending habit. but his company employed foreign trash to replace him from a 3rd world country probably with a fake degree than to get own Singaporean. now he is worry for his son. i told him to migrate, he said he is actually having that thought. i told him if he sold his flat and withdraw all his CPF can be a millionaire by cash, from there can start something new in a new place.

all these older generations always thinking about the country or want to hang around even its getting tougher. i asked him to vote for oppositions, he replied positively and he agree that the greed of pap causes all these mayhem. he also mentioned after 2011, he never see pap change but deteriorating even faster and more worms coming out!

 

[moolightaffairs]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

The true monarchy in the making. And we all thought it was a republic.

yah! hope the jedi can come save us all. may the force be with you.

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[winnipegjets]

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Originally Posted by TracyTan866 View Post
you dont seem to understand economics.

the pap is subsidising businesses with cheap labour at the expense of social cost. the pap must allow businesses to pay true wages for SG labour when they do business in SG.

Can a business in SG get a SG cashier, with SG cost of housing, cost of living , SG cost of education at $1.2k? The pap allows businesses in SG to emply cheap foreigners as cashiers but not at true economic costs. SG and Singaporeans pay a social cost when the pap govt allows businesses to cheap foreigners who come in and litter, congest, pollute, etc..

The PAP government projects to the world that sinkapore is first world but it wants to keep labour cost as third third and expect the majority of sinkees to live like third world. You would expect the world's most expensive cabinet can do better than that.

The PAP government doesn't need to look for a development plan to keep sinkapore growing ...just look at the Scandinavian countries as development models ...most of them have no resources and they are small countries in terms of population, yet they are able to create an economy that supports high standard of living, almost negligible poverty and good social programmes for the people. Those places cost alot to live but is affordable to most people there because the incomes enable them too.

PAP should just stop experimenting with the lives of sinkees. Learn and implement.

 

[Prometheus888]

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A developed country with third world sweatshop policies

A local population displaced because the arising awareness of their enslavement is becoming clear

First world country with a Fascist greedy government

One of the richest countries but its citizens are illusory millionaires with poor quality of life...




PAP: Enough is enough, time for you to go

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

Hi...does anyone know wat Kinana problem is? Sprouting such nonsense tat even small kids wont believe.

You will never fail to find comedy in your posting. Keep it up and you can win the moron of the year award.

Business are relocating to the west because there is a realization that the cost difference is marginal after accounting for freight. Do your math and you will see why locating in Asia is not as viable as it used to be. Sinkapore has no clue as to its niche in the global economy. With nothing to offer to MNCs and with no home grown expertise, it is drifting to irrelevance.

 

[jw5]

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Hi...does anyone know wat Kinana problem is? Sprouting such nonsense tat even small kids wont believe.

licking too many wrinkled balls and sweaty perineums daily...........................................

 

[Leongsam]

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Hi...does anyone know wat Kinana problem is? Sprouting such nonsense tat even small kids wont believe.

I think Kinana is one of the most intelligent members here. He certainly understands what it takes to run a government and he displays an in depth understanding of policy issues.

If only there were more of such characters. It would help take this forum to the next level.

 

[watchman8]

Re: Association of Small and Medium Enterprises hits out at Workers' Party population

Not only SMEs but MNCs too will close shop or leave, leaving singkies with no jobs.
Do us no favours WP. Go back to your funeral visits n MPS, this stuff just ain't your league.

Why is there a need to attract every single MNC out there? Singapore is too small to house all of them anyway. If these MNCs want to relocate because they can't employ enough cheap and unqualified pinoys, tiongs and ah nehs, then so be it. Why attract MNCs to operate here if they don't employ the locals? They are taking up resources and driving up overall costs of land, cars, housing etc. but does not benefit the locals much.

The local SMEs are not going anywhere. Their main business is here and it is not a bed of roses to shift ops to other countries as there are a lot of hidden costs. The SME towkays also don't want to relocate as life is not as easy in china or Vietnam.