Application for citizenship by PR of 40 years rejected

[eatshitndie]

zhang yuanyuan sg pink nric s8180819h.

 

[watchman8]

you are speculating and bullshitting without checking the facts. again trying to smoke and mirror forumers here that you know all when in fact you don't even produce the evidence.

make it easy for you. instead of posting her sg pink ic here for you, i suggest you look up google images under zhang yuanyuan pink ic.

Yeah, googling is the ultimate truth. I'm sure no one else can photoshop and everything on a website must be the truth

Go ask any former prc around you. See how many are dying to get back their china citizenship.

 

[eatshitndie]

Yeah, googling is the ultimate truth. I'm sure no one else can photoshop and everything on a website must be the truth

Go ask any former prc around you. See how many are dying to get back their china citizenship.

bs. no point twisting and turning like your other more egoistic manipulative moniker. if you still don't believe, check out the nric no. with the ica. i'm making it easy for you. oh wait. you're just too lazy to do it - is your next excuse. i rest my case.

 

[blissquek]

The ICA should shed it's ugly reputation as being one of the worst "public institution" in Singapore.

Even feedback forms in other departments list ICA as a department to compare with theirs in terms of service and standards. What a shame........

There are women here who gave birth to Singapore citizens. These male children served NS and annual in-camps and recalls.

Why do we give citizenships to murderers, prostitutes, rag-and-bone people and "peidu-mas" and leave these deserving ones out.

MP Baey should be applauded for seeking such statistics.......

The ICA should be allowed to run their department where the officers make their reccommendations WITHOUT outside interference.

Let us choose the right apples and separate the rotten ones.

Why do we give citizenships to murderers, prostitutes, rag-and-bone people and "peidu-mas" and leave these deserving ones out.

Yes..why they should favour the likes of Ma Chi, drug lords and tax evaders..????

I think their policy derserve a closer scruinty.....is it that if the rich and unwholesome bring in the money, at the snap of their fingers a singapore pink i/c is thrown to them..???

Is it the reasons why PM LHL wants another 10 billionaires to become Singapore citiizen..

IMO,,,PM LEE is sick in the head....

 

[Agoraphobic]

Without knowing the full facts, we can only speculate from limited info. On the surface, she could have applied since ages ago but failed to, presumably because she want to keep her Malaysian citizenship. This demonstrates that she has no desire for singapore citizenship until very recently. What changed?

She still has SPR, so reunion is not an issue. Rather it sounds more like a case of wanting to enjoy better benefits as singapore citizen, rather than due to any allegiance to singapore.

She gave her reason, pasted below:-

"She has no close ties with any relations back in Malaysia and is afraid that one day, she might be forced to return to her home country, especially when her husband just passed away," the MP wrote on Facebook.

After staying 40 years, this is her home now. She is merely acting out a simple person's needs and request. Singapore should just simply give her the citizenship on humanitarian grounds. Either that or allow dual-citizenship. Why question allegiance of an elderly woman to the country?

Cheers!

 

[ray_of_hope]

More than half-a-million PRs in SG. Eventually most of them will trot out sob stories as to why they want SG citizenship and why they did not apply many years earlier. Those Sporns living in M'sia would never contemplate approaching M'sian parliamentarians for help on anything because they know that they would be told to approach the SG High Comm if they require any assistance. That is how it goes and that is how it should be.

 

[peppertail]

More than half-a-million PRs in SG. Eventually most of them will trot out sob stories as to why they want SG citizenship and why they did not apply many years earlier. Those Sporns living in M'sia would never contemplate approaching M'sian parliamentarians for help on anything because they know that they would be told to approach the SG High Comm if they require any assistance. That is how it goes and that is how it should be.

Where in the world do you go to your own embassy to seek assistance in getting citizenship of another country? The only reason you would go there is to renounce your current citizenship or get some official documents verified.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Where in the world do you go to your own embassy to seek assistance in getting citizenship of another country? The only reason you would go there is to renounce your current citizenship or get some official documents verified.

If in renouncing citizenship, Sporeans who are already resident elsewhere would go to a Spore Embassy or High Comm to complete formalities, including making arrangements to terminate CPF accounts and have the monies remitted to them, and to have proof that they are no longer a citizenship of Spore. One of my friends in New Zealand did just that last year. He did not have to return to SG to do so. Although New Zealand allows dual nationality, because he was accepted to a sensitive govt posting in Christchurch he had to terminate SG citizenship.

 

[eatshitndie]

If in renouncing citizenship, Sporeans who are already resident elsewhere would go to a Spore Embassy or High Comm to complete formalities, including making arrangements to terminate CPF accounts and have the monies remitted to them, and to have proof that they are no longer a citizenship of Spore. One of my friends in New Zealand did just that last year. He did not have to return to SG to do so. Although New Zealand allows dual nationality, because he was accepted to a sensitive govt posting in Christchurch he had to terminate SG citizenship.

a renouncer don't have to go to an sg embassy or consular office to complete formalities or have accounts closed with cpf. he she can deal with the ica and cpf remotely without stepping into any sg gov offices. however, depending on cpf account complexities, one may have to go to the cpf office to execute formalities and have funds remitted via wire transfer to an overseas bank. been there, done that.

 

[ray_of_hope]

a renouncer don't have to go to an sg embassy or consular office to complete formalities or have accounts closed with cpf. he she can deal with the ica and cpf remotely without stepping into any sg gov offices.

The consular section assisted him fully with all the formalities.

 

[eatshitndie]

The consular section assisted him fully with all the formalities.

the consular office will be kind to assist if you trouble them. but there's no need to. even getting a public notary to do oath and stamp is easy. simply go to the nearest kinkos, mailbox inc. or ups store. they have public notaries on duty.

 

[eatshitndie]

novices here who base their so called "knowledge" about immigration/emigration procedures and processes on hearsay from 3rd parties have little to no clue what they're talking about. in countries like australia, canada and the u.s., the sg embassy is located in those respective countries' capital cities, which can be thousands of miles away. and there's no guarantee that a consular office exists in a city near you. sinkies who emigrated and live away from capital cities with embassies and or major cities with consulates have to learn to deal with sg authorities remotely. and sg authorities are making it easy for spoilt sinkies by leveraging the wonders of technology and online capabilities.

 

[watchman8]

bs. no point twisting and turning like your other more egoistic manipulative moniker. if you still don't believe, check out the nric no. with the ica. i'm making it easy for you. oh wait. you're just too lazy to do it - is your next excuse. i rest my case.

You need to attend anger mgt training in addition to logical thinking classes.

I already said, her case is very weird because no prc in their right mind will give up their hard earned foreign citizenship and return to china citizenship. This is a fact.

There are several possibilities. One is that she is a complete idiot and hence is not representative of the common view on the ground. As such her case cannot be used as proof that sinkie citizenship is worthless. Almost anyone from developing countries people will prefer sinkie citizenship as compared to their third world status.

Another possibility is that her father is an official and for unknown reasons she is forced to return to china citizenship.

Your brain is really full of fecal matter and can't think straight.

 

[LeMans2011]

Why are Sinkies so uptight???

 

[eatshitndie]

You need to attend anger mgt training in addition to logical thinking classes.

Your brain is really full of fecal matter and can't think straight.

you still don't get it. there's no anger here, just the facts and logic.

you claimed that sinkie citizenship is hard to get. i have proven otherwise. no need to go into grandma's convoluted guesses, "possibilities" (your word), and speculation on why zhang yuanyuan got her sg citizenship. she's young, not a billionaire, not a phd, not a genius, nor a world reknowned artist. you're going around the bush throwing smoke about "possibilities". that's not the crux and purpose of the debate.

the crux and focus is the sinkie citizenship is a tool of the elite to play their power game. it has nothing to do with loyalty, national identity, commitment to country, or sense of national pride. if they decide 200,000 zhang yuanyuans deserve the pink ic, they have the prerogative and power to do so.

meanwhile, i'm having my medium-creamed, medium-sugared, moderately roasted "it's the best" cup at philz with a bunch of tiongs who have renounced their sg citizenship and just collected their cpf money. miss zhao says "hi".

 

[watchman8]

you still don't get it. there's no anger here, just the facts and logic.

you claimed that sinkie citizenship is hard to get. i have proven otherwise. no need to go into grandma's convoluted guesses, "possibilities" (your word), and speculation on why zhang yuanyuan got her sg citizenship. she's young, not a billionaire, not a phd, not a genius, nor a world reknowned artist. you're going around the bush throwing smoke about "possibilities". that's not the crux and purpose of the debate.

the crux and focus is the sinkie citizenship is a tool of the elite to play their power game. it has nothing to do with loyalty, national identity, commitment to country, or sense of national pride. if they decide 200,000 zhang yuanyuans deserve the pink ic, they have the prerogative and power to do so.

meanwhile, i'm having my medium-creamed, medium-sugared, moderately roasted "it's the best" cup at philz with a bunch of tiongs who have renounced their sg citizenship and just collected their cpf money. miss zhao says "hi".

When did I ever say sinkie citizenship is hard to get? I only say that it should be treated as precious commodity. Obviously how the pap manage it is another matter.

You really need to clear shit from your brain. Can't even read and think straight

 

[eatshitndie]

When did I ever say sinkie citizenship is hard to get? I only say that it should be treated as precious commodity. Obviously how the pap manage it is another matter.

You really need to clear shit from your brain. Can't even read and think straight

obviously it wasn't treated as "precious commodity" as in your liberal idealistic dreams. the pap is correct in treating it as a tool for political gain and balance. if they lose sinkies thru' attrition and emigration, they have the right and power to attract new citizens. nothing precious, pretentious or fanciful about it.