Android GPS thread - Google Nav black-listed Red Dot?

[uncleyap]

I had been playing with Android GPS apps and found that Google.Com blacked list famiLEE LEEgime's Little Red Dot.

It says: Google Maps Navigation is not yet available in this location. <Get Direction<get directions="">> <Cancel<cancel>>

I tested other apps like Route 66 ok.

Sygic claimed to be FOC during download but I found that it demanded about S$40 to buy serial number.


Freenav don't have Little Red Dot's map.

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[singveld]

so you are trying to tell me, your project to use tablet as GPS car navigation has failed?

 

[uncleyap]

so you are trying to tell me, your project to use tablet as GPS car navigation has failed?

It is working very nicely and with lots of choices. Only Google.Com won't give voiced turn-by-turn guides. Others can.

The paid ones are impressive.

 

[Alamaking]

Google is free in iPhone

 

[uncleyap]

Google is free in iPhone

Google is FOC period.

Google is NATIVE in Android and LIMITED in IOS.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

freaking sygic license is so expensive. Holy crap!

Their maps are pretty good though. It got the entire bkk mapped out and most parts of thailand.

 

[uncleyap]

freaking sygic license is so expensive. Holy crap!

Their maps are pretty good though. It got the entire bkk mapped out and most parts of thailand.

Apps are priced by maps according to countries.

Navigon SG is $70 !

Since the famiLEE LEEgime claimed to be so filthy rich and so FIRST WORLD ECONOMY....

SGP kenna Ket-toh !!

 

[uncleyap]

3D google map in webGL showing Tiny Red Dot city, in 45 deg aerial view. This is using Navigation of Google Map on Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 (Android) better than the quality currently viewed on my PC.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Actually seriously you don't need to buy SG map. As you know google map makes street view available in some countries and they include north america and outside of the western world sg is one of those countries that has google mapped totally the fuck out of it. Therefore it's stupid to spend money on some other 3rd party mapping app on singapore.

It's different for other countries though. For KL and BKK for eg since google map doesn't really map out those places buying some type of map app on those cities would be smart.

 

[eatshitndie]

why doesn't someone in sbf create an app specializing in geylang oggling 24 by 7, and make it free on both android market and ios app store. call it geylang-go-oggle or geylanggooggle. must install spycam at every corner in geylang though and feed video streams to a server. uncle yappie, you should be first to come out with something local for the horny and gossipy sbf community instead of griping and whining about lack of google map navigation in sg. google did not black list sg. they even have 3d topography and detailed satellite view of sg on google earth. the google map 3d display of cbd by you above contradicts what you say. if there's any conspiracy theory, it is most likely local operators who block google nav while pushing their own silo solutions for revenue generation.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

eatshit you create that app lor.

 

[eatshitndie]

eatshit you create that app lor.

i've helped create tons of apps for the u.s. market. better to give a local-focus app opportunity to a local. we're talking about keeping jobs and creativity local. :p

 

[uncleyap]

Actually seriously you don't need to buy SG map. As you know google map makes street view available in some countries and they include north america and outside of the western world sg is one of those countries that has google mapped totally the fuck out of it. Therefore it's stupid to spend money on some other 3rd party mapping app on singapore.

It's different for other countries though. For KL and BKK for eg since google map doesn't really map out those places buying some type of map app on those cities would be smart.

There is more than just maps needed when you navigate. You need the traffic directions (one way) and restrictions e.g. speed limits tolls and ERP etc info. For driving you also need to have the voice functions - voice prompt and voice recognition input - so that famiLEE LEEgime LTA & traffic mata can not book you 12 driving points for HANDPHONE DRIVING. If you held on to the device like smartphone to key in the street / building names, you kenna alike SMS while driving.

So far the tests on voice input for roads & building names proved in SG that we are difficult place, because street names for example are in 3 to 4 different languages (Ang Moh + Chinese + Malay + Indian) voice recognition are so far not good when mixing up phrases made up of different languages. There is no mixed language voice recognition that I had found.

That means in Android voice recognition settings under Settings->Languages & Input->Voice Recognition Language you can choose just only ONE of the languages. But you can not choose multiple.

So far I tested that it works well if I set to Ang Moh, it recognised e.g. Handerson Road; Alexandra Road; Anson Road; Robinson Road etc. But it will have problem to recognise e.g. Jalan Bukit Merah; Geylang Serai; Pasir Ris; Eu Tong Sen Street; Chin Swee Road; Ang Mo Kio; Yio Chu Kang etc.

If I set to Malay it will recognise Jalan Bukit Merah; Geylang Serai; Pasir Ris; Tanah Merah; Telok Kurau; Telok Blangah etc. But it will Gabra when hearing Ang Moh names & Chinese names.

Then the worse part is a typical name of place in Singapore will mix 2 languages in a same name, e.g. "Hong Leong Building" & "Joo Chiat Place" & "Bukit Timah Road" are Chinese or Malay mixed with Ang Moh!! Then that's it! Checkmate!:*:

So to get around that, you have to stop driving and key-in these names on the device, and in CBD, you can not even stop inside bus lanes. :*:

I tested searching names of roads & buildings in PRC Taiwan Japan, there is no problem because a single setting of Voice Recognition Language will work all the way.

These GPS devices navigation are route planers and driving assistance, they will voice prompt you about speed limits and speed cameras & toll gates etc, besides telling where you should turn precisely, get in and out of expressways as well. Leaving drivers to concentrate on just driving. It is alike someone sitting there to help as a navigator. The Andriod device will speak & listen to you in voices, you need not look at their screen too much as you drive.

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[uncleyap]

Showing the NLB & Bugis Junction from Andriod Navigation using Route 66 app on my Galaxy Tab.

3D aerial view of Little Red Dot, not bad huh?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

ah i see mr yap but then again i'm sure you must be pretty familiar with sg's rds and the traffic and all. I have driven on sg roads for a number of years so i don't actually need a gps device for singapore. Even if i need to find a place just key into the iphone check it once on the map and i'll know.

However if i'm driving in a foreign country then that's different so far have not tried it. it seems like all of these apps aren't free though.

 

[uncleyap]

ah i see mr yap but then again i'm sure you must be pretty familiar with sg's rds and the traffic and all. I have driven on sg roads for a number of years so i don't actually need a gps device for singapore. Even if i need to find a place just key into the iphone check it once on the map and i'll know.

However if i'm driving in a foreign country then that's different so far have not tried it. it seems like all of these apps aren't free though.

Familiar to roads but limited to main road. The minor roads in e.g. private esates are difficult to remember. e.g. this one:

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Google Map knows everying address in that area. It is quite fast and effortless to let it help you to find 99.9% of addresses. Smart phones are good for these purposes. Their apps are what I am talking about now. These navigation apps will via voices get your destination and give you driving direction or bus / train or walking directions and track you via GPS, to bring you there effortlessly.

 

[uncleyap]

Seeing the pictoral views from the aerial angle with drawing of roads and labled names of buildings etc, helps everyone to know the concrete jungle better, even that we work and live in here our views from within are different. I recently look at the red dot city via these screens and get a better perspective of this concrete jungle.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

But they all cost money ah. Any free apps?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Familiar to roads but limited to main road. The minor roads in e.g. private esates are difficult to remember. e.g. this one:

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Google Map knows everying address in that area. It is quite fast and effortless to let it help you to find 99.9% of addresses. Smart phones are good for these purposes. Their apps are what I am talking about now. These navigation apps will via voices get your destination and give you driving direction or bus / train or walking directions and track you via GPS, to bring you there effortlessly.

Well yes it's cool to have that voice thing but seriously speaking do you need it? I find that if i just look at the map for a while and that should be good enough. Just that i find all of these extra features like voice and 3D and so on while it's rather cool to look at kind of unneccessary.

 

[uncleyap]

Well yes it's cool to have that voice thing but seriously speaking do you need it? I find that if i just look at the map for a while and that should be good enough. Just that i find all of these extra features like voice and 3D and so on while it's rather cool to look at kind of unneccessary.

You have the point.

That is depending on how often one need these helps.

One would put up with a bit more delays and searching if such thing is necessary only once in a blue moon. If it was routine then these helps would be handy. People who attend to service calls (repairs) or property agents who need to get to every random address encounters will need these navigation badly. Also like pizza delivery man or courier man.