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PHOTO An image of a mass of people at the Weizhou Grand Mosque. Hui Muslims have protested there over plans to demolish the mosque. Still taken from a mobile video.
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Videos have emerged online showing hundreds of China's Hui Muslim minority protesting against a government decision to demolish a new mosque, which officials say was built without proper planning approval.

Key points:
Officials have said the massive mosque was built without approval
Authorities are trying to make religions more 'Chinese in orientation'
Plans to demolish the mosque have been delayed for the time being
Construction of the Weizhou Grand Mosque in the Ningxia Hui autonomous region finished last year, however local authorities earlier this week issued a notice to the community advising that the mosque would be pulled down on Friday.

The stand-off comes as China faces growing criticism for its crackdowns on religion and particularly its treatment of Muslims, amid allegations that the Government has detained hundreds of thousands of the Uighur Muslim minority group in so-called "re-education" camps.

Footage posted online this week showed a large crowd of Hui Muslims gathering at the Weizhou Grand Mosque in a rare protest against the government's demolition plans.

'Demolishing the mosque will set an example'
Stills from videos taken at the Weizhou Grand Mosque.
PHOTO Stills from videos taken at the Weizhou Grand Mosque, posted to Twitter. Hui Muslims have been protesting government plans to demolish the mosque.

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Surrounded by Chinese national flags, the protesters held banners expressing support for the Communist Party, ethnic unity, and religious freedom.

Protesters also stood outside the local government's offices waving the same banners.


Officials in Ningxia have been removing elements of Islamic and Arabic architecture from the region's buildings since earlier this year, in line with a government directive to make foreign religions more "Chinese in orientation."

Many writing about the incident on Weibo, China's equivalent to Twitter, expressed support for pulling down the mosque.

"[Demolishing the mosque] will set an example as a warning to other unapproved projects," Mei Xinyu, a political columnist, said in one post.

"With Ningxia's move against Islamisation and removing Chinese characteristics reaching the tough stage, we should overcome all obstacles and dismantle the unapproved construction."

"We should mark the demolition as a milestone to bring order out of chaos."
A document published in May by the local Chinese Communist Party Commission for Discipline Inspection said the Weizhou Grand Mosque had been carrying out illegal extensions since 2016.

The Commission said local party officials had failed to properly supervise the development, which it said was partly funded through foreign donations.

However in a post circulated on Chinese social media, a supporter of the mosque said he did not understand why authorities had taken so long to say anything if the mosque was such a problem.

"In the past two years, no authorities stood up and asked us to stop building works," the anonymous post said.
"No doubts had been raised over permission for land use, and no one claimed it was an unapproved project."

Beijing's push to create government approved religion
An image of the Weizhou Grand Mosque in China's Ningxia Hui autonomous region. It is a huge white building with minarets & domes
PHOTO An image of the Weizhou Grand Mosque in China's Ningxia Hui autonomous region. Hui Muslims have protested at the mosque after authorities said they were planning to demolish it.

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While the demolition was supposed to begin on Friday, it appears officials in Ningxia backed down from their threat.

The South China Morning Post, citing local sources, reported plans to pull down the mosque have been delayed until a reconstruction plan can be agreed to.

'You have to criticise yourself'

Kazakh Muslim Omir Bekali and other former detainees details how they had to disavow their Islamic beliefs, criticise themselves and give thanks to the ruling Communist Party.
A plan to remove several of the building's domes and replace them with pagodas was rejected by worshippers, Reuters reported.

"If we sign, we are selling out our religious faith," a Weizhou mosque supporter said in a note on messaging app WeChat that was seen by reporters, urging villagers not to sign on to the mosque rebuilding plan.

The Hui are the largest of the 10 Muslim minority groups within China, and speak a variation of Mandarin — the language spoken by China's majority Han ethnic group.

James Leibold, an expert on China's ethnic policy at La Trobe University, said the Hui have traditionally played "a kind of broker role" between party officials and other Muslim minority groups because of their common language.

"They're a highly strategic and important ethnic group in China," he said.
A child rests near the entrance to a mosque where a banner in red reads "Love the party, Love the country".
PHOTO In this Nov. 4, 2017, file photo, a child rests near the entrance to the mosque where a banner in red reads "Love the party, Love the country" in the old city district of Kashgar in western China's Xinjiang region.

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While Uighur Muslims living in the western frontier province of Xinjiang have faced increasing pressure in China in recent years, the Hui have largely flown under the radar.

But the increased suspicion of foreign religions in China — specifically Islam and Christianity — has seen attitudes towards the Hui begin to shift.

"Islam is viewed as a religion that lends itself to fanatical acts of belief and political violence," Dr Leibold said.
"China witnessed that occurring in Xinjiang beginning in 2012, and recently in a mass stabbing in the train station in Kunming, and that concern about violent Islam is now creeping into the Hui areas.

"Like they're doing in Xinjiang, [the party state] overacts, and sometimes that overreaction can really exacerbate the problem."

The stand-off in Ningxia marks the latest in a series of events that have seen Beijing attempt to control various religions and religious practices.

Earlier this month, thousands of coffins were destroyed as authorities moved to roll out hard-line "burial free policy", while back in April is was reported that Bibles were being pulled from bookstores.

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PHOTO Ethnic Uighurs sit near a statue of China's late chairman Mao Zedong in Kashgar, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, China.
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China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs denies their existence. But extensive reporting by international media and human rights groups indicates upwards of hundreds of thousands of Uighurs — a Muslim-minority ethnic group — have been detained in sprawling "re-education" centres in the far-western Xinjiang region of China.

The camps are not only massive, with some exceeding 10,000 square metres, but have also been likened to prison-like compounds, with, "reinforced security doors and windows, surveillance systems, secure access systems, watchtowers, and guard rooms or facilities for armed police".

The US Congressional-Executive Commission on China calls it, "The largest mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today".

China has long been wary of its Uighur population, particularly in the wake of deadly riots, terrorist attacks and the flow of Uighur militants to Syria and Iraq to fight with Islamic State in recent years.

But the emergence of the re-education camps in Xinjiang raises a number of new questions: Why has the Communist Party come to rely on mass internment to control the Uighurs? What are the implications for China's future political development under President Xi Jinping? And how should the international community respond?

From social controls to 're-education'
Xinjiang's position at the crossroads of East and West, as well as the cultural, religious and ethnic differences between the majority Han and minority Uighurs, have posed significant challenges to the Communist Party for decades.

To bring more stability to the restive region, Beijing has pursued an aggressive integration strategy defined by tight political, social and cultural controls, the encouragement of mass migration by the dominant Han Chinese population, and state-led economic development.

In turn, the Uighurs have increasingly chafed against these restrictive policies, resulting in periodic outbursts of violence.

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PHOTO A screen shows Chinese President Xi Jinping in Hotan in western China's Xinjiang region.

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In recent years, Beijing has leveraged the global war on terror and the existence of a small number of Uighur militants abroad to crack down on the Uighur ethnic identity even further.

From the party's perspective, the recent outbreaks of Uighur violence are not a reaction to restrictive policies, but the result of the "three evil forces" of "separatism, terrorism and extremism", which have "hoodwinked" ethnic minorities into "erroneous" thinking.

In Xinjiang, this has enabled the development of a high-tech and data-heavy surveillance apparatus to reassert the party's control over the region, along with efforts to weed out so-called extremists by identifying supposedly "abnormal" activities such as the wearing of long beards, hijabs, niqabs and burkas.

Now, re-education camps have emerged as a repugnant but depressingly logical extension of this process. The Government calls them "transformation through education" centres, which harks back to the institutions of "thought reform" established under Mao Zedong in the 1950s.

Those camps sought to "transform" and "rehabilitate" prisoners through such tactics as patriotic indoctrination, self-criticism sessions and forced labour. A similar theme can be seen in the current re-education camps in Xinjiang, where detainees are forced to sing patriotic songs, take part in self-criticism sessions and sit through lectures on Xi Jinping "thought", Chinese language, Chinese law and the dangers of Islam.

The objective is to dilute Uighur cultural identity and, in Mr Xi's words:

Enhance their sense of identity with the motherland, the Chinese nation, Chinese culture, the CCP and socialism with Chinese characteristics.
The camps, in fact, represent not only a systematic violation of human rights, but the abject failure of the party's efforts to integrate Xinjiang and its people into the nation.

A return to core Communist ideology
These camps are an extreme symptom of Mr Xi's commitment to return Communist ideology to centre stage in China.

This began shortly after Mr Xi assumed the presidency in 2013 when he launched the "Seven Perils" campaign to combat so-called subversive ideas. This targeted things like Western constitutional democracy, universal values of human rights and press freedom.

He also stressed a core lesson learned from the collapse of the Soviet Union — that the system failed because the Communist Party wavered in its ideals and nobody was man enough to resist then-leader Mikhail Gorbachev's move toward dissolution.

To avoid this fate himself, Mr Xi has moved to ensure that political indoctrination should not focus simply on party members, but must be spread throughout society and unite all ethnic groups behind the party's mission.

Mr Xi has also intensified the party's obsession with "stability maintenance" to almost paranoiac levels. China has rapidly embraced cutting-edge technologies like facial recognition and artificial intelligence in the pursuit of this objective.

Significantly, elements of this system have been in operation in Xinjiang for some time, such as the use of facial recognition scanners at police checkpoints, train stations and petrol stations, and the collection of DNA samples and biometric data from the Uighur population.

This enables authorities to quickly identify people's ethnicities and track their physical movements and social interactions both online and offline to determine their relative "threat" to "stability".

A Uighur man looks on as a truck carrying paramilitary policemen travel along a street during an anti-terrorism rally in China.
PHOTO A Uighur man looks on as a truck carrying paramilitary policemen travels along a street during an anti-terrorism rally in China.

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Expansion of surveillance abroad
For Uighurs, all of this has resulted in an almost unimaginable expansion of the power of the state over their lives in pursuit of what can only be called "cultural cleansing".

The state's harnessing of 21st-century technology has also enabled it to harass and silence Uighurs living abroad and pressure them into collaborating with authorities to monitor family members in Xinjiang.

As China's international power and influence continue to rise, there are fears the instruments of coercion perfected in Xinjiang could be used to target other ethnic or religious minorities and dissidents — both inside China and abroad.

Such fears are stoked by the fact China, and its major tech companies such as Huawei, have begun to ink deals under the "Belt and Road Initiative" (BRI) to export these cutting-edge surveillance technology and systems to a variety of countries, from Zimbabwe to Mongolia.

What does all of this mean for states such as Australia that are increasingly economically interdependent with China?

To begin with, Australia should simply call out Beijing's actions in Xinjiang for what they are — systematic violations of the human rights of the Uighur people — much as US Congressional leaders and some members of the European Union have done.

Canberra has done so in the past with respect to the Tiananmen Square massacre and other human rights violations. The scope of the Chinese Government's actions in Xinjiang demands nothing less.

Second, Australian policymakers should recognise the camps in Xinjiang, and the broader return of Maoist ideology, are arguably a sign of the Communist Party's insecurity not its strength.

What is occurring in Xinjiang may appear to be far removed from Australia's national interests, but it provides evidence of the type of behaviour we may come to expect more of from an ascendant China, both domestically and internationally.

In the final analysis, we as a nation should not remain silent while hundreds of thousands of Uighurs are persecuted for simply being who they are.

Michael Clarke, associate professor with the National Security College at ANU, is chairing a panel entitled Xinjiang: China's troubled frontier region at ANU on July 26 as part of the China Seminar Series.

This article was first published on The Conversation.

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The Chinese government is smart. They realise that Islam is a cancer that they need to treat aggressively while it is still in stage 1 or 2.

Once it spills out it will be very difficult to control.
 

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The Chinese government is smart. They realise that Islam is a cancer that they need to treat aggressively while it is still in stage 1 or 2.

Once it spills out it will be very difficult to control.
Islam has been part of ah tiong land civilization for hundreds of years. There were famous mudslime officials like Cheng Ho etc. But u fortunately with the rise of terrorism, and the hypocrisy shown by Muslims throughout the world. They did themselves no favours.
 

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Islam has been part of ah tiong land civilization for hundreds of years. There were famous mudslime officials like Cheng Ho etc. But u fortunately with the rise of terrorism, and the hypocrisy shown by Muslims throughout the world. They did themselves no favours.
When a religion forces anyone to convert n claim there is no compulsion...Go think about it.
 

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When a religion forces anyone to convert n claim there is no compulsion...Go think about it.
In certain ways. Communism is like that. The ideology is enforced on what everyone else. In certain ways..at least the tiong land is dealing with this threat more effectively than the ang Mors ah.
 

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Another example of the ineffectiveness of ang Mors dealing with the Islamic threat. They practically castrated themselves in the face of Islam.
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A mother, a former registered nurse and Sydney Islamic sect leader convicted in Australia's first female genital mutilation court case — seen as a breakthrough in prosecuting the crime — have been acquitted by an appeal court.

Key Points
It was Australia's first female genital mutilation prosecution
The trio had their convictions quashed after new expert evidence came to light
The evidence revealed the two sisters genitals remained intact
In November 2015, a jury found the mother, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and former nurse Kubra Magennis guilty of cutting the genitals of two sisters aged around six and seven during ceremonies at homes in Wollongong and Sydney's north-west.

WARNING: This story contains graphic details that may be confronting to some readers

Shabbir Vaziri, a head cleric and spiritual leader in the Dawoodi Bohra community, was found guilty of being an accessory for directing members to lie about the practice of 'khatna', a procedure involving the nicking or cutting a girl's clitoris in the presence of female elders.

The mother and Ms Magennis were sentenced to 11 months' home detention, while Mr Vaziri received a maximum 15-month full-time custodial sentence and was later granted bail pending an appeal.

But the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal has quashed the convictions of all three after reviewing new expert evidence, namely that the tip of the clitoris was still visible in each girl.

"While having regard to the whole of the evidence, and the summing up, it cannot be concluded that the jury would have come to the same decision had the new evidence been available at the trial," the judgement read.

"Therefore a potential miscarriage of justice has been established."
The appeal court's decision came despite evidence from a Westmead Children's Hospital Child Protection Unit specialist, Dr Susan Marks, that there might be no long-term evidence of cutting or nicking in the form of visible scarring due to excellent blood supply to that area of the body.

Dr Marks' evidence at trial was that she could not see the tip of the clitoris in each girl, leaving it to the jury to decide whether the pair had had them removed.

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PHOTO Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri had been handed a maximum 15-month sentence.

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"One possible explanation that was before the jury at trial as to the inability of Dr Marks clearly to visualise the tip of the clitoral head … that would have supported a finding of guilt in respect of the appellants, is no longer available," the judgement said.

The appeal heard expert evidence that a possible explanation for being unable to previously visualise the glans was the girls being prepubescent prior to trial.

It was the defence case at trial that 'symbolic khatna' had been performed with no cutting involved, described by Magennis as a ceremony whereby "skin sniffed the steel".

The appellants also argued a cut or nick did not amount to mutilation.

The appeal court determined not to order a retrial on alternative allegations of assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

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China can create illegal islands in south china sea but their citizens cannot build houses of worship without permit. I suggest the muslims build a giant statue of xi jinping at the front to prevent demolition.
 

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Middle east and iran should shut off its oil to china and let the people there starve to a slow horrid death.
 

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Middle east and iran should shut off its oil to china and let the people there starve to a slow horrid death.
I hope that happens. Than ah tiong land can invade and the USA will laugh to the bank..ME will buy more USA weapons....USA just ah...n of course help USA get rid of its enemy. Bagus siah...
 

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Another good ah tiongs policy...ah tiong land bagus...
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A United Nations human rights panel believes it has received many credible reports that more than 1 million ethnic Uighurs in China are being held in what resembles a "massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy."

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Reports claim mass detentions of ethnic Uighurs and other Turkic Muslim minorities
Allegations came from multiple sources, including activist group Chinese Human Rights Defenders
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Gay McDougall, a member of the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, cited estimates that 2 million Uighurs and Muslim minorities were forced into "political camps for indoctrination" in the western Xinjiang autonomous region.

"We are deeply concerned at the many numerous and credible reports that we have received," she told the start of a two-day regular review of China's record, including Hong Kong and Macao.

"That in the name of combating religious extremism and maintaining social stability (China) has changed the Uighur autonomous region into something that resembles a massive internship camp that is shrouded in secrecy, a sort of 'no rights zone'.
'Lambs waiting to be killed'

Since last spring, several hundred thousand and possibly more than 1 million ethnic minorities — mostly Uighur — in Xinjiang have been interned in mass detention facilities.
"There are reports of mass detentions of ethnic Uighurs and other Turkic Muslim minorities," she said.

Monitoring groups say the Uighurs have been targeted in a surveillance and security campaign that has sent thousands into detention and indoctrination centres but Ms McDougall suggested the number might be considerably higher.

"There are estimates that upwards of a million people are being held in so-called counter-extremism centres and another 2 million have been forced into so-called re-education camps for political and cultural indoctrination." She did not specify a source for that information in her remarks at the hearing.

China has said that Xinjiang faces a serious threat from Islamist militants and separatists who plot attacks and stir up tensions between the mostly Muslim Uighur minority who call the region home and the ethnic Han Chinese majority.

A Chinese delegation of some 50 officials made no comment on her remarks at the Geneva session that is scheduled to continue on Monday.

The US mission to the United Nations said on Twitter it was "deeply troubled by reports of an ongoing crackdown on Uighurs and other Muslims in China".

"We call on China to end their counterproductive policies and free all of those who have been arbitrarily detained," the US mission said.

'You have to criticise yourself'

Kazakh Muslim Omir Bekali, and other former detainees, detailed how he had to disavow his Islamic beliefs, criticise himselves and give thanks to the ruling Communist Party.
The allegations came from multiple sources, including activist group Chinese Human Rights Defenders, which said in a report last month that 21 per cent of all arrests recorded in China in 2017 were in Xinjiang.

Earlier, Yu Jianhua, China's ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva, said it was working towards equality and solidarity among all ethnic groups.

But Ms McDougall said members of the Uighur community and other Muslims were being treated as "enemies of the state" solely on the basis of their ethno-religious identity.

More than 100 Uighur students who returned to China from countries including Egypt and Turkey had been detained, with some dying in custody, she said.

Fatima-Binta Dah, a panel member, referred to "arbitrary and mass detention of almost 1 million Uighurs" and asked the Chinese delegation, "What is the level of religious freedom available now to Uighurs in China, what legal protection exists for them to practice their religion?"

Panellists also raised reports of mistreatment of Tibetans in the autonomous region, including inadequate use of the Tibetan language in the classroom and at court proceedings.

"The UN body maintained its integrity, the government got a very clear message," Golok Jigme, a Tibetan monk and former prisoner living in exile, said at the meeting.

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Xinjiang was predominantly uighyr until communists started to flood the area with pig eating han chinese from 1990's, like they did in south east asia 100 years ago.nobody welcomes these people, but they breed faster than rats and it took mao and lky to put on the brakes and natives the world over, including new york and san franciscoo now suffers from their starchy and yucky food.
 

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Bloody tiongs are useless...make me see them no up. Even a Simple building also cannot demolish. What a useless gahmen. In Tiananmen they just run over with tanks...no become soo weak like SPF poodles.

China delays mosque demolition after protest
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Vehicles are parked outside the Grand Mosque in Weizhou in northwestern China's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, early Saturday, Aug 11, 2018. (Photo: AP/Sam McNeil)
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BEIJING: Authorities in northern China delayed the demolition of a massive mosque on Saturday (Aug 11) after thousands of people demonstrated to stop its destruction, local residents said, amid a nationwide government drive to tighten restrictions on religious activities.

Across China, officials have sought to limit religious freedoms for Muslims as part of a widespread attempt to bring believers in line with the dictates of the ruling Communist Party.

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Protesters began gathering Thursday ahead of a deadline to demolish the grand mosque in the town of Weizhou in the northern Ningxia region, local residents said.

Videos posted on social media in recent days showed protesters gathering in front of the building as police with riot shields stood by.

Holding Chinese flags, they sat quietly on the building's steps and milled around a large plaza, before heading to Friday night prayers, according to the videos, which could not be verified by AFP.

"The government said it's an illegal building, but it's not. The mosque has several hundred years of history," a restaurant owner surnamed Ma told AFP.

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Around noon Saturday, a local official had read a document saying that the government would hold off on the mosque's demolition, locals told AFP.

After that, many who had participated in the sit-in dispersed.

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People had come hundreds of kilometres from other Muslim regions to show support and bring food to those in Weizhou, locals said.

Hundreds of security forces had at one point been brought in on civilian buses to secure a perimeter around the area, not allowing outsiders in.

Internet and 4G cellphone service had been cut off to the area, resuming only some 14 kilometres (nine miles) away from Weizhou -- though residents could still make phone calls.

On Saturday evening, a few dozen people sat on folded stools or leaned against their motorbikes in another neighbourhood away from the mosque, watching a movie projected onto a cement wall near a petrol station.

Police cars occasionally drove past, lights flashing, but it was otherwise peaceful.

"They told us the internet was down because of recent rains, but does that really make sense?" said a young man straddling his bike.

"They're afraid of us spreading videos," he aid.

The mosque was rebuilt over the past two years, according to government documents, but the licensing process was not carefully managed and several officials received a "serious warning" from a local disciplinary committee.

In the process, the facade was changed from its previous Chinese style -- featuring sweeping tiled roofs similar to a Buddhist temple -- to what is often described in China as an "Arab" design, with domes and crescents.

Concerns have been growing in Weizhou since the circulation of a government order last week demanding the mosque's demolition on the grounds that it had been rebuilt without the proper permits.

The document said that if the building was not demolished by Friday, August 10, the government would tear it down, locals said. Residents were frustrated because officials had shown support for the construction until now.

Calls to the local county government and the regional Islamic association Saturday went unanswered.

The words "Weizhou mosque" appeared to be censored on China's Twitter-like Weibo platform when AFP tried to search for them.

'SINISISATION' OF RELIGION

Islam is one of five officially recognised religions in China, home to some 23 million Muslims.

Pressure has been building on the community in recent months as the Communist party moves to tighten the reins on religious expression.

China's top leaders recently called for the "Sinicization" of religious practice -- bringing it in line with "traditional" Chinese values and culture -- and new regulations on religious affairs came into effect in February, sparking concern among rights groups.

The measures increased state supervision of religion in a bid to "block extremism", and in areas with significant Muslim populations, authorities have removed Islamic symbols, such as crescents, from public spaces.

In the far western region of Xinjiang, things have gone much farther, with Muslims being harshly punished for violating regulations banning beards and burqas, and even for the possession of unauthorised Korans.

Concerns about the mosque standoff in Weizhou appeared to be spreading Saturday, as Muslims in other regions expressed solidarity with the protesters.

"We are quietly waiting to see that the problem is satisfactorily resolved," said one open letter posted on Weibo by a mosque in Shanxi province.

If it is not, "we reserve the legal right to go to Ningxia or call on the central government to petition".
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A left wing bleeding heart liberal fuckwit article. The real issue is the UK has failed in its attempt to destroy islamic extremism and that is the real right wing terrorists groups. Not those white men only parties which are just a bunch of small fry thugs. If islamic extremism was destroyed,,these thugs would have nothing to stand on,

UK underestimating risk of far-right extremism, warns former terror chief Sir Mark Rowley
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The former head of counter-terrorism for the UK's Metropolitan Police has warned of a growing threat from right-wing extremists in the country.

Sir Mark Rowley says extreme right-wing groups are operating in similar ways to Islamist extremists in the UK, citing figures that of 14 terror plots foiled in the country last year, 10 were from Islamic extremists, and four were from right-wing extremists.

Sir Mark said despite the growing threat, some government institutions and media were underestimating the risk.

"For the first time since the second world war we have a domestic, proscribed terrorist group, it's right-wing, it's neo-Nazi, it's proudly white supremacist, portraying a violent, wicked ideology," Sir Mark told the BBC.​
"I don't think we've woken up to it enough.

"Now I'm not going to say it is the same level of threat as the Islamist threat … but it's very significant and it's growing and what I've seen over the last number of years is a lack of recognition of that."

PHOTO: Sir Mark Rowley was the Metropolitan police's anti-terrorism chief between 2014 and 2018. (Reuters: Peter Nicholls)


BBC Newsnight reported neo-Nazi group National Action had been at the forefront of aggressive, right-wing extremism in Britain.

The white supremacist organisation, which uses Nazi iconography in its propaganda material as well as quotes from Adolf Hitler, was the first far-right group to be banned under UK terrorism laws in 2016.

The group celebrated the murder of UK Labor MP Jo Cox in 2016 and has produced material providing tactical advice on how to sow tension and discord in communities, as well as how to avoid police surveillance.

It is now a criminal offence in the UK to be a member of the organisation, but National Action was linked to at least two foiled terror plots last year.

In June, an alleged member of National Action, 23-year-old Jack Renshaw, pleaded guilty to preparing an act of terrorism by buying a machete to kill Labor MP Rosie Cooper last year.

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The 41-year-old former Oxfam worker is remembered as an activist for refugees.



And in July, National Action member Jack Coulson was sentenced to four years and eight months in prison on terrorism charges related to his possession of a guide on how to create hazardous devices. The 19-year-old had previously boasted of wanting to shoot Jewish MP Luciana Berger in the head.

In September last year, three men, including two serving soldiers, were charged with terrorism offences including allegedly belonging to National Action.

Sir Mark said the UK's police, security services, Home Office, Home Secretary and the Prime Minister, Theresa May, spoke frequently about the growing threat of right-wing extremism, but wider government institutions, media and the community were underestimating the risk.

"If we sleepwalk into it, then I think there is a real danger we give them more scope to get stronger," he said.​
"They're repackaging their aggressive intolerance and sometimes thinly disguised advocation of violence, they're repackaging that and attaching it to mainstream political debate.

"That's not quite the same as mainstreaming, but what it does mean is collectively we need to be alert to that whatever leadership or political or journalistic position we are in, and try and guard against it.

"Otherwise what we are doing is letting these extremist groups infiltrate mainstream politics and generate credibility which then lets them present themselves as representatives of 'white Britain' or 'Muslim Britain' — which they certainly aren't."

In another right-wing terror plot foiled last year, Neo-Nazi Ethan Stables planned to carry out an attack on a Cumbria pub which was holding a gay pride night. He was sentenced to an indefinite hospital order in February.

Former home secretary Amber Rudd has described National Action as a "vile group" who promote homophobia, violence and terrorism, which "have no place in this country".
 

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Islam has been part of ah tiong land civilization for hundreds of years. There were famous mudslime officials like Cheng Ho etc. But u fortunately with the rise of terrorism, and the hypocrisy shown by Muslims throughout the world. They did themselves no favours.

Not hundreds of years...centuries...Cheng Ho, was a Muslim Eunuch serving the Imperial court...the Chinese would like to erase him in history but cannot...I read that he is either buried in an unmark grave in Madagascar ..it is said that his grave in China is empty. The Muslims, rarely gave the Chinese much problems...like you mentioned, the 'rise of PEACEFUL ISLAM"...is rattling the rafters.
 

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This article proves that ang mor lands will never defeat Islamic extremism and that sooner or later, ang mor lands will become islamic states. There are too many left wing bleeding heart liberal fuckwits who are collaborators and destroying their own countries, so sad,,,

If anyone should want to ban Muslims it would be me - but I don't
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Why is a Queensland senator with a 19 first-preference vote so obsessed with banning Muslim immigration?
Alpha Cheng with his father Curtis Cheng, who was shot outside of police headquarters in Parramatta.
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If anyone should be spiteful at Muslims, many would say that it would be me. A 15-year-old Muslim shot my dad in cold blood outside the NSW Police Headquarters in Parramatta. If anyone should be marching upon Parliament House to demand an end to Muslim immigration, it would be me because a 20-year-old Muslim was sentenced to 44 years for planning the attack. If anyone should believe that Muslims are a "stain on our community", it would be me because a 25-year-old Muslim was sentenced for 17 years for supplying the gun.
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If anyone were to boldly believe that all terrorists are Muslim, I guess you could say that person could, and should, be me.
I cannot deny that at least three Muslims are directly linked to my father’s death. His murder. I cannot deny that they self-identify as Muslim. Nor can I deny that Islamic State is the violent propaganda machine behind their twisted ideology.
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It would be frighteningly easy — and I choose those words deliberately — to keep indulging this train of thought. It is not that hard, really. A Muslim killed my father. His parents were Muslims. He was manipulated by other Muslims. They are related to Muslims. They probably came from a Muslim country. It is all their fault, kick them out, keep them out. Bob’s your Katter.
I might as well go all out and issue the claim that if we had no Muslims in this country, my father, Curtis Cheng, would still be alive. If we had no Muslims, we would not be in the "mess" we are today.
This is the narrative those who wish to divide us would have us believe. If I continue this train of thought, and victimise and persecute an entire group because of their religious/cultural background, then indeed this will be just like the Final Solution. And unlike some, I do understand the relevance of such an expression.
We who seek to see the best in what Australians stand for must believe otherwise.
I support that those responsible need to be punished. I support law and order. I believe that inclusion, acceptance and respect are the most important values we all need to display to create the society that we can all thrive in. Arbitrary cuts to immigration will not do that.

Alpha Cheng and his mother outside court after the person who supplied the gun that killed his father was sentenced.
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However, I will admit that I am tired. I am tired of needing to explain to adults that the actions of these individuals cannot be attributed to an entire group of people. I am tired of explaining that terrorism is a criminal and political phenomenon, not a religious one. I am tired of explaining that despite my unfortunate tragedy at the hands of Islamic extremists, it is those in my life who just so happen to be Muslim who make me understand the richness of the human spirit. My best friend is of a Muslim background. I have met inspirational students, teachers, activists, and politicians, who just happen to be of a Muslim background. Being a Muslim doesn’t make them a good friend or person. In the same vein, being a Muslim doesn’t make you a terrorist.
If I, of all people, can think this way, then sure as hell our "elected" representatives can think this way too ... and while they are at it, cease the never-ending scapegoating. For there are no easier targets than those who don’t look or sound like you, and the dead. While I do admit that I’m tired of having to say this over and over again, and despite the fact that regardless of these efforts my father will never walk into my home again to share food with my mother and sister, I’m not going to stop seeking out the beauty, friendships, and empathy of those who make Australia worth standing up for in the first place.
Our futures are shared. Let us not forget that.
Alpha Cheng is a teacher and the son of Curtis Cheng who was murdered in 2015.


 
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