98.7 DJ Sacked For Having Local Accent

[littlefish]

I stand corrected then, this forum has a very high English proficiency indeed. If only I had paid more attention during English classes. :o

Crazy English.

 

[Seee3]

If only I had paid more attention during English classes. :o

Crazy English.

Schools don't teach such things in the past. They go "thematic"; realised their mistakes and now going back to grammar. Unfortunately, the over zealeous officers-in-charge are overdoing it. The new Pr school books on grammar is so profound that even adults find it hard to grasp. Most teachers do not understand what they are teaching. The poor students complete assignments through "patterns" and guesses. Nothing learnt nothing gained; another failure ....

 

[scroobal]

Agree. Language is a living thing and its tends to evolve. Whether the approach is technical in terms of grammar building blocks or thematic, it must be done with students reading extensively a variety of books which are shortlisted for their excellent and progressive use of the language.

Unfortunately, they are assigned 2 books per year and it is supposed to be a done deal. No different to teaching the theory of soccer in the classroom but no one has physically played the games or the number of games are limited.

Schools don't teach such things in the past. They go "thematic"; realised their mistakes and now going back to grammar. Unfortunately, the over zealeous officers-in-charge are overdoing it. The new Pr school books on grammar is so profound that even adults find it hard to grasp. Most teachers do not understand what they are teaching. The poor students complete assignments through "patterns" and guesses. Nothing learnt nothing gained; another failure ....

 

[littlefish]

Schools don't teach such things in the past. They go "thematic"; realised their mistakes and now going back to grammar. Unfortunately, the over zealeous officers-in-charge are overdoing it. The new Pr school books on grammar is so profound that even adults find it hard to grasp. Most teachers do not understand what they are teaching. The poor students complete assignments through "patterns" and guesses. Nothing learnt nothing gained; another failure ....

You may be right, I don't remember learning much grammar during my school days.

 

[Ramseth]

"Teruk" is correct Malay spelling for the word. "Terok" is the Singlish spelling.

Its the quality of the teaching of English. We all know that English is taught in every school and that includes Muslims.

There are 2 issues here

1) She clearly has no clue that her English is "terok"

2) Her bosses also do seem to point out that it is her bad English and not her accent. I suspect they themselves are poor in the subject and thus recruited her in the first place. When the complaints started coming in, they were in no position to help her to correct it or make her understand what the issue is.

 

[Ramseth]

You may be right, I don't remember learning much grammar during my school days.

Checklist for teaching and learning English:

1. Alphabet and numbers
2. Pronunciation and spelling
3. Nouns and pronouns
4. Singular and plural
5. Masculine, feminine and neuter
6. Verbs and adjectives
7. Adverbs and conjunctions
8. Past, present, future, continuous and perfect tenses
9. Grammar, punctuation and sentences
10. Conversation and essays

 

[po2wq]

"Teruk" is correct Malay spelling for the word. "Terok" is the Singlish spelling.

'teruk' is new spelling ... b4 dey changed it donkey ears ago, it was 'terok' ... :p

 

[po2wq]

Checklist for teaching and learning English:

1. Alphabet and numbers
2. Pronunciation and spelling
3. Nouns and pronouns
4. Singular and plural
5. Masculine, feminine and neuter
6. Verbs and adjectives
7. Adverbs and conjunctions
8. Past, present, future, continuous and perfect tenses
9. Grammar, punctuation and sentences
10. Conversation and essays

conditional if nt in syllabus? ... :p

 

[Ramseth]

'teruk' is new spelling ... b4 dey changed it donkey ears ago, it was 'terok' ... :p

Is that so...oh...

Anyway, for example, kampung and tanjung, that's the standard Malay spelling I understand. However, it's usually spelt as kampong and tanjong in Singapore. My Malay friends in Singapore said that they're required to spell them as kampung and tanjung for exam purposes.

 

[po2wq]

Is that so...oh...

Anyway, for example, kampung and tanjung, that's the standard Malay spelling I understand. However, it's usually spelt as kampong and tanjong in Singapore. My Malay friends in Singapore said that they're required to spell them as kampung and tanjung for exam purposes.

can recall a couple mor changes ...

ch changed 2 c ... eg ... chaching --> cacing
e changed 2 i ... eg ... lebeh --> lebih

last time, oso gt é oso ... pronounced as 'e tanda' ... last time, lebih was actually lébeh ...

 

[tonychat]

i told you guys before that fake foreign accent will bring you good luck, try talking tikolog, you will be king.

in orchard road, fake any accent if you need help, sure work, dont believe? just try, never say you are local sinkaporeans, you can say you are new citizen.

say you nyonya or baba also can...... you speak hokkien, you finished

Why Fake it?

 

[Ramseth]

conditional if nt in syllabus? ... :p

For conditional, interrogatives, inifinitives, transitives etc,...pass the basics to go primary two first.

By primary three, got expletives.

 

[Ramseth]

can recall a couple mor changes ...

ch changed 2 c ... eg ... chaching --> cacing
e changed 2 i ... eg ... lebeh --> lebih

last time, oso gt é oso ... pronounced as 'e tanda' ... last time, lebih was lébeh ...

Thanks for the info. I think that I can roughly recall some changes too, e.g. baharu = bahru = baru, sahaja = saja etc.

 

[yinyang]

..roughly recall some changes too, e.g. baharu = bahru = baru, sahaja = saja etc.

can recall a couple mor changes ...
ch changed 2 c ... eg ... chaching --> cacing
e changed 2 i ... eg ... lebeh --> lebih

Digress a bit, changes came about from attempts to unify (or standardise) contemporary bahasa in msia and indonesia. "Melindo", but todate still no go. We probably took the cue from across causeway

http://www.bahasa-malaysia-simple-fun.com/history-malay-language.html

Language is a living thing and its tends to evolve. Whether the approach is technical in terms of grammar building blocks or thematic, it must be done with students reading extensively a variety of books which are shortlisted for their excellent and progressive use of the language.

..over zealeous officers-in-charge are overdoing it. The new Pr school books on grammar is so profound that even adults find it hard to grasp. Most teachers do not understand what they are teaching. The poor students complete assignments through "patterns" and guesses

Small wonder, learning standard english can be a chore. Beyond reading (written), shd also extend to oral eg good telly programs, news.

 

[yellow_people]

Mediacorps Radio 98.7 sack a local non-eurasian DJ becos she does not use a fake American accent in her program like the rest. Farkup GLCs is going to the dogs!

Not surprising. Mediacorp was simply pandering to the taste of the local Chink population.

Take a look at the SG Chink today. They lack class and culture and ape the white man in almost everything they do from the way they talk ot the way they behave.

9 out of 10 chinks have English first names. Some of them even have an English middle name on top of that. Most of them have names like Angel Tan, Derek Ho.. some are downright terrible like Tannery Chan or Cradle Tan. How often do you come across a name like Chow Ah Seng these days??? Most Chinks also talk through their nose with that fake American slang.

If you want to piss a Chink off just call him by his Chinese name.

 

[middaydog]

Bro, what's wrong with 2 "and"s in the same sentence...

can't I have 2 "fuck"s in the same night ... ?

alamak, this fella asked me to lengthen my message to at least 10 characters.

 

[cooleo]

Not surprising. Mediacorp was simply pandering to the taste of the local Chink population.

Take a look at the SG Chink today. They lack class and culture and ape the white man in almost everything they do from the way they talk ot the way they behave.

9 out of 10 chinks have English first names. Some of them even have an English middle name on top of that. Most of them have names like Angel Tan, Derek Ho.. some are downright terrible like Tannery Chan or Cradle Tan. How often do you come across a name like Chow Ah Seng these days??? Most Chinks also talk through their nose with that fake American slang.

If you want to piss a Chink off just call him by his Chinese name.

You are absolutely right. PAN LING LING's son is named BECKHAM, which is not even a first name! Dumb dumb! I hope he sucks in soccer when he grows up.

http://archive.mediacorptv.sg/ask_e_star/ask_lingling.asp

hi, Lingling. Why ever did you name your son Beckham? I know you like the player, but it`s kinda weird for your kid to go around with a name like that. Why not David? I mean, we all know that Dennis Bergkamp was named after Denis Law..... Anyway, luckily you didn`t name your kid Schmeichel or Scholes or Bosnich or Sheringham, *grin*. Anyway, could you teach him to appreciate better quality football than the English Premier League? All the best to you & your family.
posted by curious on 11/16/2000 8:57:23 PM

Lingling: I named my son "Beckham" because I think it's a unique name, and it also goes well with Shinan's surname "Wee". If my son wants to, yes, I will teach him to appreciate football. Thanks for the advice!

 

[yellow_people]

You are absolutely right. PAN LING LING's son is named BECKHAM, which is not even a first name! Dumb dumb! I hope he sucks in soccer when he grows up.

Pan Ling Ling is an artless Chink, naming her son as you would a pet dog. By the way, my neighbor's JRT is named Beckham.

 

[SIFU]

Pan Ling Ling is an artless Chink, naming her son as you would a pet dog. By the way, my neighbor's JRT is named Beckham.

they should standardised the names... i call all indians ah neh (sometimes i add chee bye in front) ... dun care whether they local or imported

 

[kulgai]

Schools don't teach such things in the past. They go "thematic"; realised their mistakes and now going back to grammar. Unfortunately, the over zealeous officers-in-charge are overdoing it. The new Pr school books on grammar is so profound that even adults find it hard to grasp. Most teachers do not understand what they are teaching. The poor students complete assignments through "patterns" and guesses. Nothing learnt nothing gained; another failure ....

It depends on which 'past' you're referring to. During my Dad's time, they were big on grammer. He completed only Sec3 but his language proficiency beats most youngsters today (even some of those tertiary educated ones don't seem to know proper grammar). Have you noticed many of those above 50 years of age can speak good grammatical English (even though not very educated)? The decline in grammar is a recent phenomenon - probably the last 20 to 30 years. MOE now realises this and are trying hard to make amends. Coming back to the DJ in question, she obviously has no inkling about her bad English. However, I don't blame her since she's been educated that way. Having said that, I still believe there must be some other political reasons behind the sacking.