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5 Million Unemployed Americans get $1200/month. Sinkies leh?

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WASHINGTON – Federal checks could begin flowing again as early as next week to millions of jobless people who lost up to seven weeks of unemployment benefits in a congressional standoff.

The White House said President Barack Obama would quickly sign the legislation Congress approved Thursday to restore benefits to people who have been out of work for six months or more, ending an interruption that cut off payments averaging about $300 a week to 2 1/2 million people who have been unable to find work in the aftermath of the nation's long and deep recession.

At stake are up to 73 weeks of federally financed benefits for people who have exhausted their 26 weeks of state jobless benefits. About half of the approximately 5 million people in the program have had their benefits cut off since its authorization expired June 2.

They are eligible for lump-sum retroactive payments that are typically delivered directly to their bank accounts or credited to state-issued debit cards. Many states have encouraged beneficiaries to keep updating their paperwork in hopes of speeding payments once the program was restored.
In states like Pennsylvania and New York, the back payments should go out next week, officials said. In others, like Nevada and North Carolina, it may take a few weeks for all of those eligible to receive benefits.

The 272-152 House vote Thursday will send the measure to the White House, where Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama would sign it as soon as it arrived. The House vote came less than 24 hours after a mostly party-line Senate vote Wednesday on the measure, which is just one piece of a larger Democratic jobs agenda that has otherwise mostly collapsed after months of battles with Republicans.

"Americans who are working day and night to get back on their feet and support their families in these tough economic times deserve more than obstruction and partisan game-playing," Obama said Wednesday night.
The measure is what remains of a Democratic effort launched in February to renew elements of last year's economic stimulus bill. But GOP opposition forced Democrats to drop $24 billion to help state governments avoid layoffs and higher taxes, as well as a package of expired tax cuts and a health insurance subsidy for the unemployed.

Wrangling over the larger measure consumed about four months. The jobless benefits portion picked up enough GOP support in the Senate — Maine moderates Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe — only after it was broken off as a stand-alone bill. It would have passed last month were it not for the death of Robert Byrd, D-W.Va.; Byrd's replacement, Democrat Carte Goodwin, cast the key 60th vote Tuesday to defeat a GOP filibuster.
Most Republicans opposed the measure because it would add $34 billion to a national debt that has hit $13 trillion, arguing that it should have been paid for with cuts to other programs, such as unspent money from last year's economic stimulus bill, which is earning mixed grades at best from voters as unemployment stands at 9.5 percent nationwide.

Thirty-one House Republicans, about one in six, voted for the measure Thursday, while 10 Democrats opposed it.

"The other side says that these unemployment benefits stretching to almost two years are needed and must be added to the $13 trillion debt, even as they claim their trillion-dollar stimulus plan has been a success at creating millions of jobs," said Rep. Charles Boustany, R-La. "It makes you wonder if they're looking at the same jobs data as the rest of us."
Opposition marked a change of heart for many Republicans who had voted for deficit-financed unemployment benefits in the past, including twice during George W. Bush's administration. Earlier this year, Republicans twice allowed temporary unemployment measures to pass without asking for a roll call vote.
Opinion polls show that deficits and debt are of increasing concern to voters, especially Republicans' core conservative supporters and the tea party activists whose support the GOP is courting in hopes of retaking control of Congress.

Republicans winced in February when Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., blocked a temporary benefits measure for several days, only to relent amid a wave of bad publicity. But just a few weeks later, all but a handful of Republicans were opposed to renewing benefits unless they were paid for with cuts elsewhere in the $3.7 trillion federal budget.

Democrats countered that many economists say unemployment benefits boost the economy since most beneficiaries spend them immediately. But any such effects are likely to be modest when measured against a $14.6 trillion economy.

"Unemployment benefits protect those who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own but would lead to more jobs, higher wages and a stronger economy for all Americans," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "The money will be spent immediately on necessity, injecting demand into the economy, creating jobs."

The program is being renewed through the end of November. The White House signaled earlier this week that another extension may be sought if the jobless rate remains high, as many expect.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_bi_ge/us_unemployment_benefits











:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Do Uncle Yap and GMS support unemployment benefits for Sinkies?
 
Two different systems of governing a country:

The US Govt sees unemployment rate as the responsibility and inability of the government to provide/create jobs for its citizens, hence the jobless benefits.

The SG government sees unemployment rate as "Everyone elses' fault, but themselves'; They will blame the macro environment and say everyone is going through the same bad times and naturally, we are affected as well.. Hence, the inability to create enough jobs is not the SG Govt's problems. They will even go as far to say that there are jobs available, just Sinkies do not want to take them. Then all those retraining shit and blah blah blah comes in.

Which system is fair?
 
Not only that..

Sinkie men have to serve NS and protect the country.. Still they get no benefits whatsoever.. You die your problem. The top management laugh all the way to the bank. It's capitalism in its quintessence.

Also they open Casino and Singapore Pools to leech all the money away.. Why else will they do other than for the sake of money?
 
Unemployment benefits don't come out of thin air.

These people who qualified for unemployment benefits have worked previously and had their pay cheque deducted for unemployment insurance.

Read these words:

to restore benefits to people who have been out of work for six months or more, ending an interruption that cut off payments averaging about $300 a week to 2 1/2 million people who have been unable to find work in the aftermath of the nation's long and deep recession.

These are people who have previously worked and have been out of work for 6 months or more. Because they worked previously, they have contributed to unemployment insurance.

At stake are up to 73 weeks of federally financed benefits for people who have exhausted their 26 weeks of state jobless benefits. About half of the approximately 5 million people in the program have had their benefits cut off since its authorization expired June 2.

These again are for people who previously worked. They had 2 deductions, one state and one federal.


Just think, there will be no bums in USA if every American can claim unemployment benefits.


Singapore can also have this unemployment benefits if they are willing to have their pay cheque deducted for contribution to unemployment insurance.

Have the PAP government set up a new stat board, Central Employment Fund, every month Singaporeans contribute a certain amount of money to the fund, just like CPF.

When they are jobless, they can get unemployment cheques like the Americans. The unemployment cheques is not forever, last only maybe 26 weeks as in the USA. This is to encourage people to work, if not all Singaporeans will be m&d, collect unemployment cheques and play guitar in void deck.

So are you are ready for a Central Employment Fund, Singapore??
 
Unemployment benefits don't come out of thin air.

These people who qualified for unemployment benefits have worked previously and had their pay cheque deducted for unemployment insurance.

Read these words:



These are people who have previously worked and have been out of work for 6 months or more. Because they worked previously, they have contributed to unemployment insurance.



These again are for people who previously worked. They had 2 deductions, one state and one federal.


Singapore can also have this Unemployment benefits if they are willing to subscribe to unemployment insurance.

Have the PAP government set up a new stat board, Central Employment Fund, every month Singaporeans contribute a certain amount of money to the fund, just like CPF.

When they are jobless, they can get unemployment cheques like the Americans. The unemployment cheques is not forever, last only maybe 26 weeks as in the USA. This is to encourage people to work, if not all Singaporeans will be m&d, collect unemployment cheques and play guitar in void deck.

So are you are for a Central Employment Fund, Singapore??


That's incorrect.

Employees DON'T contribute to the fund.

Employers pay a certain amount to the fund as unemployment insurance. Google and you will understand more :rolleyes:

No one says it will last forever.. It is for unemployed people who has lost their jobs and on a job hunt after that..
 
That's incorrect.

Employees DON'T contribute to the fund.

Employers pay a certain amount to the fund as unemployment insurance. Google and you will understand more :rolleyes:

Show me your google link that said employees don't contribute to the fund. :p

Just remember, nothing is free in this world.

At the end of the day, someone paid for the unemployment benefits.

The big question is:

Are the companies here ready to contribute unemployment insurance?

Are Singaporean ready to contribute unemployment insurance?
 
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Show me your google link that said employees don't contribute to the fund. :p

Just remember, nothing is free in this world.

Just one of the many example:
http://www.edd.ca.gov/unemployment/

"UI program is funded by employers who pay taxes on wages paid to employees."

Yea I know that nothing's free

But note that some companies paying these insurance have millions/billions of profit per year. What's paying a bit in insurance to them?

I don't think it will disadvantage the company too. It will improve corporate image and also helps to prevent lawsuits from ex-employees. It may also be a way of saying thanks to the ex-employees!
 
Just one of the many example:
http://www.edd.ca.gov/unemployment/

"UI program is funded by employers who pay taxes on wages paid to employees."

Yea I know that nothing's free

But note that some companies paying these insurance have millions/billions of profit per year. What's paying a bit in insurance to them?

I don't think it will disadvantage the company too. It will improve corporate image and also helps to prevent lawsuits from ex-employees. It may also be a way of saying thanks to the ex-employees!

You are right. This link does not say anything about employees contribution. I was thinking of other countries.

http://www.edd.ca.gov/unemployment/Eligibility.htm

And yes, if companies here willing to contribute to such a fund, employment benefits is a reality in Singapore.

Something for UY and GMS to push for??
 
You are right. This link does not say anything about employees contribution. I was thinking of other countries.

http://www.edd.ca.gov/unemployment/Eligibility.htm

And yes, if companies here willing to contribute to such a fund, employment benefits is a reality in Singapore.

Something for UY and GMS to push for??

Then PAP will lose all the favor with the businesses
It will only increase the costs for the businesses

However, the GOVT should be paying for unemployment benefits from the surplus they have got each year. This will make them work harder to create more surplus and also take care of hardworking Sinkies who have lost their jobs due to no fault of their own.

Of course, a package must be included so that Sinkies are more motivated to find work and retrain themselves.


The logic is simple. The rich and powerful should help to protect the rich. Not to screw the poor/disadvantaged like they are seemingly doing now!
 
Then PAP will lose all the favor with the businesses
It will only increase the costs for the businesses

However, the GOVT should be paying for unemployment benefits from the surplus they have got each year. This will make them work harder to create more surplus and also take care of hardworking Sinkies who have lost their jobs due to no fault of their own.

Of course, a package must be included so that Sinkies are more motivated to find work and retrain themselves.


The logic is simple. The rich and powerful should help to protect the rich. Not to screw the poor/disadvantaged like they are seemingly doing now!

That sounds like a good idea because they have been paying themselves obsence salaries, the money should be channel to Sinkies who needed the money more than the million dollar civil servants.

I guess only when the population is really poor, that's when sinkies have enough votes to change the gahment.

At the moment, the 66.6% still feel rich and don't feel a need to change gahment.
 
That sounds like a good idea because they have been paying themselves obsence salaries, the money should be channel to Sinkies who needed the money more than the million dollar civil servants.

I guess only when the population is really poor, that's when sinkies have enough votes to change the gahment.

At the moment, the 66.6% still feel rich and don't feel a need to change gahment.

Yea, that's the problem.

The facts will speak for themselves this elections..
 
US is the epitome of finance capitalism, even so they never dismantle the socialist intrusion of FDR's New Deal era.

2 economic meltdown within a span of less than 100 years, perhaps the capitalist knows the pitfalls of their system and kept a fail safe.

When the US economy collapse in 2008 due to the unbounded greed of the Wall Street nexus, having a basic welfare system provided Americans with a safety net, avoided anarchy and collapse of a functioning society.
 
Bros, nothing is free... Let's be objective: as both of your have pointed and cited examples and some parts of statutes, it is clear to all and plain to see:

1) Companies want to earn money, they wanna enter and sell things to USA market.

2) USA govt says ok, but then require them to pay corporate tax and also pay part/full payment to Unemployed Insurance (In this way, govt let companies set up shop and earn money by tapping into their vast market of consumers, likewise companies have to do their bit for this entry into market by contributing to UI, corporate tax, employees' insurance, employees' spouses' and children's medical insurance etc, etc) In the usa, the salary of a job is one thing, but the medical insurance that companies are required to provide for the dependent spouse and/or dependent children is another factor why they wanna work, coz losing a job means losing medical insurance and that is disastrous for them. Over in SG, there is no need for employers to provide this insurance for workers' dependents.

3) SG Govt says to companies just pay corporate tax (Govt keep) and hire workers (largely foreigners nowadays, with no need for CPF) and what do Sinkies get? Whatever is left or how much SG Govt intends to give. These are the facts....

In SG, the Govt is the largest employer and also the SWFs are one of the largest shareholders in many, many companies, hence making employers contribute to UI or pay anything more will hurt their pockets. There are many ministers on the boards of these companies, with some holding multiple directorships and key appointments. There is a very obvious conflict of interests between the SG Govt and the welfare of the workers as any money saved will end up increasing the bottomline of Singapore INC. This cycle won't stop and unless the SG Govt relinquish their interests on the side of the employers, there will never be policies such as Unemployment benefits, minimum wages, restoration of employers' CPF etc. Good luck to our future!
 
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Just remember, nothing is free in this world.

Men are forced to do National Slavery for literally peanuts in Sinkieland. And I don't mean elite peanuts. I would categorise that as close to free. Ironically, it is not done under free will. Don't agree? Just make it voluntary (same allowances and everything) and see how many will do it.
 
In SG, the Govt is the largest employer and also the SWFs are one of the largest shareholders in many, many companies, hence making employers contribute to UI or pay anything more will hurt their pockets. There are many ministers on the boards of these companies, with some holding multiple directorships and key appointments. There is a very obvious conflict of interests between the SG Govt and the welfare of the workers as any money saved will end up increasing the bottomline of Singapore INC. This cycle won't stop and unless the SG Govt relinquish their interests on the side of the employees, there will never be policies such as Unemployment benefits, minimum wages, restoration of employers' CPF etc.

How very true.
 
That is to test their resolve to serve the nation!

Serving the nation??

Why serve the nation as an INFANTRY when
1) A few missiles or a nuke will destroy Singapore
2) We are dependent on Navy and Air Force rather than the Army that all the men goes to. You think Indonesia and Malaysia will send in infantry troops to storm/skirmish Sinkapore? Or other hostile countries will take over Singapore by going head on with the land troops?
3) A cheaper method is to use a combination of diplomacy and a professional group of top soldiers.

Cheebye Sinkies just serve army because they are psycho-ed to think that they are protecting their families. What is there to protect if Sinkapore can be laid flat with a few bombs? The best way to protect your families is to learn how to paddle a boat so you can run away quick enough.

Also don't forget Malaysia can simply cut off our water supply :rolleyes:
 
Two different systems of governing a country:

The US Govt sees unemployment rate as the responsibility and inability of the government to provide/create jobs for its citizens, hence the jobless benefits.

The SG government sees unemployment rate as "Everyone elses' fault, but themselves'; They will blame the macro environment and say everyone is going through the same bad times and naturally, we are affected as well.. Hence, the inability to create enough jobs is not the SG Govt's problems. They will even go as far to say that there are jobs available, just Sinkies do not want to take them. Then all those retraining shit and blah blah blah comes in.

Which system is fair?

Ang mor are more responsible in dealing with things than asians? What about the Japanese?
 
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