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Why Malaysians need to PROTEST?

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Why do Malaysians march?

By: Yeo Yang Poh (Sun, 02 Aug 2009)


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On the move ... a section of anti-ISA protesters near
the National Mosque in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday.

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march, when the government has said that it will review the Internal Security Act? Why march, when there are other very cosy ways of giving your views and feedback?

One would understand if these were questions posed by nine-year-olds. But they are not. They are questions posed by the prime minister of this nation we call our home. Answer we must. So, why?

Because thousands who died while in detention cannot march or speak any more. That is why others have to do it for them.

Because persons in the corridors of power, persons who have amassed tremendous wealth and live in mansions, and persons who are in the position to right wrongs but won’t, continue to rule our nation with suffocating might. And they certainly would not march. They would prevent others from marching.

Because the have-nots, the sidelined, the oppressed, the discriminated and the persecuted have no effective line to the powerful.

Because the nice ways have been tried ad nauseam for decades, but have fallen on deaf ears.

Because none of the major recommendations of Suhakam (including on peaceful assembly), or of the commissions of inquiry, has been implemented. Because the proposed Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC) is not in sight, while corruption and insecurity live in every neighbourhood; and (despite reasoned views expressed ever so nicely in opposition) Rela (people’s volunteer corps) is being brought in to make matters even worse.

The proponents in “Su Qiu” (remember them?) were not marchers. In fact it is hard to find nicer ways than “su qiu”, because the term means “present and request” or “inform and request”. In terms of putting forward a view or a request, it is the height of politeness. Yet they were labelled “extremists” – they who did not march.

And now you ask, why march?

Because you gave non-marchers a false name! You called them the “silent majority”, who by virtue of their silence (so you proudly argued with twisted logic) were supporters of government policies since they were not vocal in raising objections. You claimed to be protecting the interest of the “silent majority”. Now some of them do not want to be silent anymore, and you are asking why?

Yes, because double standards and hypocrisy cannot be covered up or explained away forever; and incompetence cannot be indefinitely propped up by depleting resources.

Because cronyism can only take care of a few people, and the rest will eventually wake up to realise the repeated lies that things were done in certain ways purportedly “for their benefit”.

Because the race card, cleverly played for such a long time, is beginning to be seen for what it really is – a despicable tool to divide the rakyat for easier political manipulation.

Because it does not take much to figure out that there is no good reason why Malaysia, a country with abundant human resources and rich natural resources, does not have a standard of living many times higher than that of Singapore, an island state with no natural resources and that has to import human resources from Malaysia and elsewhere.

Because, in general, countries that do not persecute marchers are prosperous or are improving from their previous state of affairs, and those that do are declining.

Because Gandhi marched, Mandela marched, Martin Luther King marched, and Tunku Abdul Rahman marched.

Because more and more people realise that peaceful assemblies are no threat at all to the security of the nation, although they are a threat to the security of tenure of the ruling elite.

Because politicians do not mean it when they say with a straight face or a smile that they are the servants and that the people are the masters. No servant would treat his master with tear gas, batons and handcuffs.


Because if the marchers in history had been stopped in their tracks, places like India, Malaysia and many others would still be colonies today, apartheid would still be thriving in South Africa, Nelson Mandela would still be scribbling on the walls of Cell 5, and Obama would probably be a slave somewhere in Mississippi plotting to make his next midnight dash for the river.

And because liberty, freedom and dignity are not free vouchers posted out to each household.

They do not come to those who just sit and wait. They have to be fought for, and gained.

And if you still want to ask: why march; I can go on and on until the last tree is felled. But I shall
obviously not.

I will end with the following lines from one of the songs sung in the 1960s by civil rights marchers in the US, without whom Obama would not be able to even sit with the whites in a bus, let alone reside in the White House:

It isn’t nice to block the doorway
It isn’t nice to go to jail
There are nicer ways to do it
But the nice ways have all failed
It isn’t nice; it isn’t nice
You’ve told us once, you’ve told us twice
But if that’s freedom’s price
We don’t mind ...”


Yeo Yang Poh is a former Bar Council president. Comments:
[email protected].





 
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Welcome to the new management!

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Yours Sincerely,
Dato Seri Mohd Najib Tun Hj Abdul Razak
 

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unity is strength.
malaysians have shown courage and love for their country to tear down unjust laws.

While majority local singaporeans await for their destination they dont understand, the malaysians believe life is a journey, and they decide their destination.

if ever singapore gets into big trouble, local singaporeans will never unite.
50 years in the making has separated the islanders. What we see is just exhibits that have no values except for the money vaLUE.
 

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unity is strength.
malaysians have shown courage and love for their country to tear down unjust laws.

While majority local singaporeans await for their destination they dont understand, the malaysians believe life is a journey, and they decide their destination.

if ever singapore gets into big trouble, local singaporeans will never unite.
50 years in the making has separated the islanders. What we see is just exhibits that have no values except for the money vaLUE.



<style></style>The socio political landscape of Malaysia and Sinkie is pretty much the same.Except for 1 vast difference.The obscene imports of FT into Sinkie who will soon outnumber local born.The very reason why there will be no protest in Sinkie in a foreseeable future.Not because Sinkies worship money.Even money worshippers do unite.If their money is threatened.But FT and foreigners in Sinkie would not want to upset the status quo.Because they are basically refugees for economical reasons.They would not want to upset PAP regime .
 

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Revolution is nigh.



Raja Petra Kamaruddin:

But we shall make them all pay for this. When the government falls we shall see a lynching a la the French, Bolshevik, Iranian, etc., revolutions. This revolution may yet turn bloody. We never know. But Umno is certainly pushing its luck and one day it will push too far and blood will flow on the streets like it did once in 1969.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/25195/84/
 

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Revolution is nigh.



Raja Petra Kamaruddin:

But we shall make them all pay for this. When the government falls we shall see a lynching a la the French, Bolshevik, Iranian, etc., revolutions. This revolution may yet turn bloody. We never know. But Umno is certainly pushing its luck and one day it will push too far and blood will flow on the streets like it did once in 1969.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/25195/84/

<style></style>There use to be sign in an army barrack."The more we sweat now the less we bleed in war."---how appropriate...Why the need for a bloody revolution if people can stand up for their rights and PROTEST NOW.
 

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<style></style>There use to be sign in an army barrack."The more we sweat now the less we bleed in war."---how appropriate...Why the need for a bloody revolution if people can stand up for their rights and PROTEST NOW.

The problems are: the people are still not being allowed to protest peacefully and continuously being threatened with arrest and imprisonment.

The police is a branch of the ruling party.
The police has been so wantonly misused by the ruling party to the point that they are use on the people and the opposition figures who dared to be vocal.The people has had enough.

The judiciary too. All the checks and balances apparatus had been completely dismantled because UMNO wants to govern forever. The UMNO controls all these institutions to do their biddings and the people are waking up to the sad fact, that it is them, the voters that ultimately will be the decider. But can the UMNO give up their hold on power, when they lose the coming general election ? The answer is NO, thus Raja Petra's predicts that unfortunate and calamitous outcome. The term "hanging judges" will possibly be literal. :biggrin:

In this worst case scenario, the people will have no choice but to rise up in opposing tyranny. Malaysia is so ripe for such catastrophe when in the mind-eyes of the average joes, this perfidious government is beyond salvation.
The people are smarter now, but are they tolerant enough to let the government steamroll them yet again and again ?

http://sjsandteam.wordpress.com/200...sts-to-the-anti-isa-rally-of-1st-august-2009/

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The problems are: the people are still not being allowed to protest peacefully and continuously being threatened with arrest and imprisonment.

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<style></style>The problem is revolutions arises out of frenzy.When it dies down.Old dictatorship is replaced by new dictatorship.Why?Because the people who revolt are not proactive in politics. anymore.Politics is not exclusive to politicians alone.When people are proactive in politics it is the greatest check and balance of any governance.
 

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This film has no credibility.The guys in uniform are not police.At best security officers.Please watch it again.
 

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POLIS BRUTALITY !!!!

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According to the Malaysian Home Ministry, 1,535 people died in police custody between 2003 and 2007, the latest year for which data is available. More than one death a day !!!

By THOMAS FULLER, The New York Times

Soon after coming to power four months ago, Najib Razak, the Malaysian prime minister, vowed to temper the country’s repressive laws and respect civil liberties though they have often been ignored.

But Malaysia’s honeymoon of liberalism hit the rocks over the weekend, when the police broke up a large rally in Kuala Lumpur, arresting nearly 600 people and reaffirming the governing party’s longstanding policy of zero tolerance toward street protests.

Opposition parties, which organized the rally, were calling for the repeal of a law that allows the government to jail its critics indefinitely without charge. The opposition is also pressing the government to expand an inquiry into the recent death under mysterious circumstances of a political aide after a late-night interrogation by anticorruption officials.

News services estimated that the rally on Saturday, which was broken up by thousands of police officers using tear gas and water cannons, drew about 20,000 protesters, making it the largest demonstration in two years.

“We can provide them stadiums where they can shout themselves hoarse till dawn, but don’t cause disturbance in the streets,” Mr. Najib said Sunday, according to the Malaysian news media.

Since taking office in April, Mr. Najib has gained favor with investors and businesspeople by partly dismantling a system of racial preferences that long caused resentment among the country’s minorities.

He also released 13 political detainees held without trial. An opinion poll conducted from June 19 to July 1 showed 65 percent of respondents were satisfied or very satisfied with his performance. The poll, by the Merdeka Center for Opinion Research, surveyed 1,060 voters.

More recently, Mr. Najib’s government has been criticized as reverting to the authoritarian tactics of previous administrations.

A former health minister and stalwart of the governing coalition, Chua Jui Meng, defected to the opposition in July, saying that Mr. Najib represented an “iron fist behind the velvet glove.”

Lim Kit Siang, a prominent opposition politician, said in a blog entry on Sunday that the large number of people detained “underlines” that the “greatest violators of human rights are often the police and the law enforcement agencies.”

The death of the political aide, Teoh Beng Hock, in July has galvanized opposition parties and caused widespread outrage, especially among the minority Chinese.

Mr. Teoh, a legislative aide in the opposition-controlled state of Selangor, was found dead beneath the 14th-story window of the offices of the country’s anticorruption commission after a nightlong interrogation. A pathologist’s report said he died of internal injuries from a fall.

A government minister initially said Mr. Teoh, 30, committed suicide, but his belt and back pockets were torn, adding to speculation that he might have been forced out the window.

After initial resistance, the government bowed to public pressure and ordered an inquiry into Mr. Teoh’s death as well as the interrogation tactics of the anticorruption officers.

Deaths in police custody have increased in recent years, according to Suaram, a human rights group. According to the Malaysian Home Ministry, 1,535 people died in police custody between 2003 and 2007, the latest year for which data is available.



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