Running Road and Ramseth / Teflon

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Since I have little time, I thought I will address the comment that Teflon made about my absence despite my posting nearly every day albeit not in the frequency in the recent past. Something I explained in the thread about me being missing. I thought this might make interesting reading for someone.

Running road is when you make a statement or back a horse and you no longer want to be associated with it for various reasons. A good recent example is the TKL's candidature for the PE. Those who are familiar with TKL and Ramseth relationship would know this. Teflon disappeared for the entire duration and supposedly eatings frogs in Thailand. GMS who is not as smart went down in flames and the man lost his deposit making an embarrassment for all those associated with him.

I have known of Ramseth since he stepped into this forum. I aware after a time who his associates are, the opposition parties that he associates with and identities he follows. I am also aware of people who avoid him. In all these years, he has never said a single bad word about PAP or even attempted to step on their toes. Here is a classic of his, a post he made today about the Hri Kumar Nigerian caper and I put it in full. Note in particular that it is completely neutral and nothing on Hri Kumar and the PAP.


"Today, 05:04 AM#64
Ramseth
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Re: Latest: MP Vikram Nair wants to sue TOC's E-Jay Ng!

There's a difference between intentional and unintentional misrepresentation of facts leading to the defamation of one's reputation. If a lawsuit is filed, the difference is in the quantum of damages. Facts and only full facts are absolute defense against defamation.

For example, I saw you walking into a hotel with a woman. I went on to tell your wife and friends about it. But actually, you were just a corporate repsentative bringing a client to a restaurant in the hotel. It's still defamation because I didn't have full facts and evidence. But the damages may be migitated since I actually saw something and acting out of goodwill or in this case scenario, sense of domestic and social justice, i.e. I felt sorry for them and had to tell them.

Example 2, you somehow offended me and I cooked up a story about you having extramarital affairs. That's straightforth unmitigable malicious defamation.

Example 3, I saw you bringing a woman into a hotel all the way up into a room overnight and checking out only next morning. I go tell your wife, relatives and friends. It'd be indefensible since all hotels have check-in and check-out records and CCTV all the way to outside room doors. Sue me for defamation?"
 
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Many people assume that a person is aligned to a cause because of there associates. I am sure that no human being is going to keep his head high when dealing with his colleagues if they speak with both sides of the mouth. But you got to give him credit for playing this game for this long. He always talks about people but nothing about politics, the PAP etc. He will tell you how voting is done, the mechanics of it but nothing else. Just watch him. He left the WP and now he is back.

This is not about being sued. This is making general comments about the conduct of PAP, their policies etc.
 
Here is a classic of his, a post he made today about the Hri Kumar Nigerian caper and I put it in full. Note in particular that it is completely neutral and nothing on Hri Kumar and the PAP.

Vikram Nair, not Hri Kumar Nair.
 
A non-committal sort of guy, I see. But why is he like that? He wants desperately to be frens with everybody and enemies with no one? One day, he is going to be like the bat - neither the birds or the animals will accept him.
 
A non-committal sort of guy, I see. But why is he like that? He wants desperately to be frens with everybody and enemies with no one? One day, he is going to be like the bat - neither the birds or the animals will accept him.

Friends I have a quite few to count on and they're all one needs. Enemies, I need none, that's right. Must disagreeing mean enemies? Scroobal's position is that of George Bush Jr., either you're for us or against us. That's his personal prerogative but that I don't subscribe to, is my personal prerogative.

Take GMS and TKL as examples, I've agreed as well as disagreed with them in various issues. I just honestly say what I agree to and what I disagree to. Same goes for my relationship with WP, NSP, SDP and PAP. I can't be agreeing to everything or disagreeing to everything one-sidedly. No one should.

When TJS announced he's contesting for presidency and got his certificate, I've already told TKL his was a lost cause, even just as a cause for a respectable margin to prove a point. Though TKL himself said that TJS getting his certificate was the low point in his life, he still persisted. I chose to desist and took a break.

Much of my life in Singapore, I lived on whatever lowly little I got from SPF and NTUC. I've been in YPFusion (YPAP associate) too. WP and LTK know all that. Png Eng Huat was in NTUC too. There's no need for confrontational life-or-death enmity as if they've murdered your parents. It's just political disagreement and discourse.
 
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You've reached the stage you can't even tell the difference between Hri Kumar and Vikram Nair.

Since I have little time, I thought I will address the comment that Teflon made about my absence despite my posting nearly every day albeit not in the frequency in the recent past. Something I explained in the thread about me being missing. I thought this might make interesting reading for someone.

Running road is when you make a statement or back a horse and you no longer want to be associated with it for various reasons. A good recent example is the TKL's candidature for the PE. Those who are familiar with TKL and Ramseth relationship would know this. Teflon disappeared for the entire duration and supposedly eatings frogs in Thailand. GMS who is not as smart went down in flames and the man lost his deposit making an embarrassment for all those associated with him.

I have known of Ramseth since he stepped into this forum. I aware after a time who his associates are, the opposition parties that he associates with and identities he follows. I am also aware of people who avoid him. In all these years, he has never said a single bad word about PAP or even attempted to step on their toes. Here is a classic of his, a post he made today about the Hri Kumar Nigerian caper and I put it in full. Note in particular that it is completely neutral and nothing on Hri Kumar and the PAP.


"Today, 05:04 AM#64
Ramseth
Alfrescian (Inf)
Join Date: Jul 2008Location: PyramidPosts: 16,680
My Reputation Points: 818 / Power: 21

Re: Latest: MP Vikram Nair wants to sue TOC's E-Jay Ng!

There's a difference between intentional and unintentional misrepresentation of facts leading to the defamation of one's reputation. If a lawsuit is filed, the difference is in the quantum of damages. Facts and only full facts are absolute defense against defamation.

For example, I saw you walking into a hotel with a woman. I went on to tell your wife and friends about it. But actually, you were just a corporate repsentative bringing a client to a restaurant in the hotel. It's still defamation because I didn't have full facts and evidence. But the damages may be migitated since I actually saw something and acting out of goodwill or in this case scenario, sense of domestic and social justice, i.e. I felt sorry for them and had to tell them.

Example 2, you somehow offended me and I cooked up a story about you having extramarital affairs. That's straightforth unmitigable malicious defamation.

Example 3, I saw you bringing a woman into a hotel all the way up into a room overnight and checking out only next morning. I go tell your wife, relatives and friends. It'd be indefensible since all hotels have check-in and check-out records and CCTV all the way to outside room doors. Sue me for defamation?"
 
Friends I have a quite few to count on and they're all one needs. Enemies, I need none, that's right. Must disagreeing mean enemies? Scroobal's position is that of George Bush Jr., either you're for us or against us. That's his personal prerogative but that I don't subscribe to, is my personal prerogative.

Take GMS and TKL as examples, I've agreed as well as disagreed with them in various issues. I just honestly say what I agree to and what I disagree to. Same goes for my relationship with WP, NSP, SDP and PAP. I can't be agreeing to everything or disagreeing to everything one-sidedly. No one should.

When TJS announced he's contesting for presidency and got his certificate, I've already told TKL his was a lost cause, even just as a cause for a respectable margin to prove a point. Though TKL himself said that TJS getting his certificate was the low point in his life, he still persisted. I chose to desist and took a break.

Much of my life in Singapore, I lived on whatever lowly little I got from SPF and NTUC. I've been in YPFusion (YPAP associate) too. WP and LTK know all that. Png Eng Huat was in NTUC too. There's no need for confrontational life-or-death enmity as if they've murdered your parents. It's just political disagreement and discourse.

Vincent sear, my deposit go where liao ley?

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And as usual, you see the slippery snake ramseth squirming each and every way to get out of a tight corner.
 
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