French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translation?

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

2011 is so disappointing for computer. that sandy bridge e is such a lack down. i want to upgrade from my 12gb x58 4gHz oc + ssd + gtx285 sli+ 30 inch lcd bought several year ago, but i do not see anything that will smoke my present computer. better yes, blow my com, nothing.

pc world come on, i have 10k to spend on my next computer, money is yours, you got to give me something is much better. like 4K monitor, 6 ghz octo core, 1tb ssd etc

To mention also at the current scene HDD are expensive especially 3.5" caused by Thai floods. I am holding back HDD upgrades as well.

 

[vamjok]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

2011 is so disappointing for computer. that sandy bridge e is such a lack down. i want to upgrade from my 12gb x58 4gHz oc + ssd + gtx285 sli+ 30 inch lcd bought several year ago, but i do not see anything that will smoke my present computer. better yes, blow my com, nothing.

pc world come on, i have 10k to spend on my next computer, money is yours, you got to give me something is much better. like 4K monitor, 6 ghz octo core, 1tb ssd etc

i am too looking forward to real development in SSD....the size now is really zzzzzz

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

i am too looking forward to real development in SSD....the size now is really zzzzzz

If you really want something smaller in size, then don't try those SATA SSD. Try USB3.0 thumb drives.

They are small but as fast as SSD. Yet USB3.0 is a compact connector including 5V power supply unlike the SATA where separated power & SATA signal wire are needed. USB3.0 is neat single cable solution.



http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/pqi-announce-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-20091229/

[h=1]PQI announce 64GB USB 3.0 flash drive[/h] Dec. 29, 2009 (10:52 am) By: Matthew Humphries


We have already seen companies announce USB 3.0 hard drives, motherboards, and even a laptop upgrade solution, but this is the first announcement I believe I have seen of a pocket-able USB 3.0 flash stick.
PQI is making available 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB versions of its Cool Drive U366 flash drive. It has an aluminum casing and clear plastic lid and will initially ship in blue and gray colors. The stick’s pocket friendly dimensions are 87 x 22 x 12 mm.
The USB 3.0 compatibility means up to 5Gbps bandwidth while retaining backwards compatibility with the older USB standards. PQI also state the U366 is capable of 97MB/s transfer rates.

No pricing has yet been announced for the three different capacity models.
Read more at the PQI press release

Matthew’s Opinion
I’ve reached the point now where I really don’t want to upgrade certain components and gadgets unless they are USB 3.0 compatible. If I was building a new PC then the motherboard would have to have 3.0 ports. The transfer speed gains also put me off buying a new external hard drive or flash stick until later this year as I’m fairly confident USB 2.0 will be old news before the end of 2010.
How about you? Anyone considering building a new PC and looking for a motherboard with USB 3.0? Or are you putting off any gadget purchases until a new model is released with the faster transfer speeds?

 

[vamjok]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

no la uncle, i am looking for it as a hard drive for my operating system. i am using a ssd now, and i never looked back. the speed, the performance, the responsiveness is really.....amazing!

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

no la uncle, i am looking for it as a hard drive for my operating system. i am using a ssd now, and i never looked back. the speed, the performance, the responsiveness is really.....amazing!

mmmm I forgot that MS windows users face limitations. Sorry! :o

Linux users can boot from thumb drives. That is what I use in some system that are completely without Harddisk.

I connected USB thumb drives INSIDE the PC and can not be removed from outside. And the users don't even know weather there is HDD or not. It just boots up Linux when when power own. USB thumb drive is more silent and power saving. Some terminals or kiosks type can use this solution. Ditch MS and you will have lots of freedom + saved budgets!

 

[vamjok]

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not possible, many of the software i used for my job only available in MS.

chembiooffice
Scifinder

dun talk cock try to sabo others. using thumbdrive for serious work ? u know how slow it will be?

save what budget? on software? come on.....everyone knows how to get it for free

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

not possible, many of the software i used for my job only available in MS.

chembiooffice
Scifinder

dun talk cock try to sabo others. using thumbdrive for serious work ? u know how slow it will be?

save what budget? on software? come on.....everyone knows how to get it for free

Not slow for the applications I used. It was a terminal using basically nothing but browser the whole day. There is 4GB more than enough RAM. So only the 1st time boot in the day will be somewhat slow. in USB2.0 thumb drive. Later all running out of cached RAM the whole day. It is OK for speed. It remained very steady for 3 years already. Only one time the thumb drive corrupted due to power failure during boot. I reinstalled. That's all.

There are many things these days all running browser based. The google chrome concept. Actually I think 2GB is enough for that one. But a 4GB system was recycled from old desktop used by a staff who resigned, so be it 4GB.

 

[vamjok]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

uncle for surf net talk cock of cos no problem. what about doing work that make you recieve salary at the end of the day.

i pass you just a simple task, if you can perform it on your thumbdrive without hanging your so call almight linux lim bey give you my pay for the month, if you lose same thing ur one month salary.

i dun mind say the task out now, generate and predict the IR spectrum in vaccuum setting for the drug zolinza and the nmr for it. with solid state hard drive, 4 gig ram, processing power of i7 1.6gig it will takes me roughly 30 mins. you game enough?

 

[vamjok]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

performing such task when i run it on this relatively new 1 year old laptop, i cannot even open a 2nd application. so pls dun talk cock about doing serious work with a silly thumbdrive to replace a hard disk. oh, if i use a conventional hard disk, it might takes me 2 hr.

get the idea now?

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

uncle for surf net talk cock of cos no problem. what about doing work that make you recieve salary at the end of the day.

Well go download a copy of this

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download

[h=2]Burn your CD or create a bootable USB stick[/h]Make a USB thumb drive and boot up (slow boot depending on USB stick speed) and then open the browser up.

Use the browser whole day (we normally don't close the browser at all because it display always needed info) see if you find anything diff with HDD the the rest of the day. This system I mentioned was Ubuntu 9.04 installed in 2009. Used daily in simplest way like a terminal by those who don't have passwd to change anything in the linux.

They have passwd to see their own in-house webmails, web based SQL DB, price-lists, use printer, and that's all.

The machine will be turned on by the 1st person who came in, and left on until end of the day. Users will login and use and logout all with the browser opened full screen automatically.

In fact I believe that some day a very low cost terminal like this sized like a tiny router, with VGA + LAN + USB connectors for keybd + mouse & a power socket. Will become a standard desk-top-box. It boots from flash on-board & opens nothing but a browser like an appliance. This match with Google's Chrome OS concept actually.


This is not empty talks I can customize such a Linux USB bootable thumb drive for a fee, and you can duplicate it to use on your terminals however many you have. If you don't need customized use what is given on the website above. It won't be slow unless your RAM is too little.

The idea of not having a HDD there is reliability because HDD always die when bumped around, and waste power by spinning for nothing most of the time. All the makers of boards need to is to enlarge their flash for BIOS and make it liek 8GB or 4GB, with a copy of bootable Linux inside. That will be good already without HDD can work wonders. If the board got enough RAM, boot image can be uncompressed to RAM during boot, like many embedded systems. After bootup the system will be faster than any HDD system because the system drive is a RAMDISK holding the whole OS & applications. 4GB of RAM disk is enough for many Linux machines. The flash memory only being read during boot. There is no local data storage at all because everything (email & data) are kept in server end. Terminals don't need to keep anything.

 

[laksaboy]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

To get real work done, you'll need Windows. MS Office/Outlook/Exchange, accounting software, translation software, graphics design software (Mac is good alternative for this).

A bootable Linux distro is good for casual home usage, for computing on the go, and more importantly, for troubleshooting your system if it cannot boot normally.

Anyhow, Ubuntu sucks now, because of the crappy Unity desktop environment. Worse than Gnome 3.

 

[vamjok]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

To get real work done, you'll need Windows. MS Office/Outlook/Exchange, accounting software, translation software, graphics design software (Mac is good alternative for this).

A bootable Linux distro is good for casual home usage, for computing on the go, and more importantly, for troubleshooting your system if it cannot boot normally.

Anyhow, Ubuntu sucks now, because of the crappy Unity desktop environment. Worse than Gnome 3.

i agree with Mac being an alternative, never linux

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

To get real work done, you'll need Windows. MS Office/Outlook/Exchange, accounting software, translation software, graphics design software (Mac is good alternative for this).

A bootable Linux distro is good for casual home usage, for computing on the go, and more importantly, for troubleshooting your system if it cannot boot normally.

Anyhow, Ubuntu sucks now, because of the crappy Unity desktop environment. Worse than Gnome 3.

I switched to classic for Ubuntu, actually I prefer the other one called minibuntu comparatively. However for regular desktops I use KDE (kubuntu)

Gradually during the pass years I replaced each and almost every MS applications. 5 years ago already all communications & office application replaced, left multimedia & graphics. (accounting not in scope) Now all the multimedia and graphics also Linux are used. MS only as a test and comparison reference. I can say 99.9% Linux.

GIMP replaced photoshop. In my youtube.com channel my 300+videos are edited using Linux - previously Kino & now kenlive. The very last thing was using MS for some convenient video conversions. However I found now that ffmpeg command alone is 20X better than anything I used in MS.

If I compared or test MS, I use only virtual machines (VM) in my Linux host. I never want to boot up any MS on any physical host any more, because they are not trust worthy. MS VMs are snapshot protected. No need to boot up nor shut down. Just sleep / suspend / resume rapidly. They revert back to snapshot sate 100% unchanged after my tests, so don't give any shit about virus, malware, bugs, corruption, all the MS pains. Today it does not trouble me at all if MS exist or vanished.

MS is novel use in terms of video & graphics, the actual professional post productions (I used to be from that business 10 years ago) use Linux. 10 years ago we used Unix on Silicon Graphics machines (Irix). Hollywood Broadway etc were our main customers.

http://www.sgi.com/products/

http://www.sgi.com/products/software/irix/

Their main OS now are Red Hat & SuSE Linux

http://www.sgi.com/products/software/suse.html
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/redhat.html

Used this in 1999: :p

 

[vamjok]

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must i copy and paste the same exact thread to get my point across?

simple, dare to take up my challenge a not, no need to type so much. i am someone of a doer not talker. no need so much theory, can perform and give the result a not.

do the task i mentioned on a thumbdrive. perform those complex calculation and stimulation on it

 

[singveld]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

To mention also at the current scene HDD are expensive especially 3.5" caused by Thai floods. I am holding back HDD upgrades as well.

no no no none of the hd i want is delay by thai flood. i stop using magnetic harddisk for a few years now. ssd is much faster. the good one at least.

the problem now, in computer is the new cpu does not smoke the old cpu 3 years ago, due to amd unable to compete with intel, intel is slowly reducing their roadmap to squeeze more money. also the damn 30 inch monitor is with us too long, i want to upgrade my monitor but i am still waiting for non existence 4k monitor.

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

must i copy and paste the same exact thread to get my point across?

simple, dare to take up my challenge a not, no need to type so much. i am someone of a doer not talker. no need so much theory, can perform and give the result a not.

do the task i mentioned on a thumb drive. perform those complex calculation and stimulation on it

1stly, the thumb drive I mentioned to replace SSD is USB3.0 93MB/s through-put and faster than most desktop HDDs.

2ndly, you totally missed the point that I told you my USB2.0 thumb drive system was essentially a terminal not storing data. And data are on a remote server. It had been very acceptable to have the 1st time boot in the morning slow because no one wait for it at all. Just turn on the PC as the turn on the office lights. By the time they need it, it is ready to work as fast as any HDD machine.

I did not say that slow 4MB/s thumb drives can replace cooperate storage. You got that idea from where?

:*:

 

[uncleyap]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

no no no none of the hd i want is delay by thai flood. i stop using magnetic harddisk for a few years now. ssd is much faster. the good one at least.

the problem now, in computer is the new cpu does not smoke the old cpu 3 years ago, due to amd unable to compete with intel, intel is slowly reducing their roadmap to squeeze more money. also the damn 30 inch monitor is with us too long, i want to upgrade my monitor but i am still waiting for non existence 4k monitor.

Yah SSD mostly not affected. But they are entirely different class of product.

SSD is not an option to replace regular HDD when the flood caused price to double, because the price of SSD is still few hundred percent more.

 

[singveld]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

Yah SSD mostly not affected. But they are entirely different class of product.

SSD is not an option to replace regular HDD when the flood caused price to double, because the price of SSD is still few hundred percent more.

yeah i heard some people have problem getting hd, i think it is bad idea for seagate to move out of singapore, if they would have stay in singapore, things will be different for them. their own fault.

there are two development that might bring some life back to magnetic hd, one is ssd caching, the other is ram caching.
ssd caching is using max 40B of SSD to cache the magnetic harddisk, the other is using 8GB of RAM to cache the harddisk, since x79 support 32 GB to 64GB of RAM, RAM caching will be the next big thing.

 

[laksaboy]

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Seagate: Singapore -> China -> Thailand -> ?

Anyway, Seagate disks are rubbish nowadays, only 2 year warranty. WD still has 5 year warranty.

Let's hope price per unit storage drops further within the next 1-2 years.

Then, let's hope magnetic disks go the way of floppies, CD writers and 4:3 17" monitors.

 

[singveld]

Re: French News says DDR4 RAM in 2012 3D silicon archetecture - any better translatio

Seagate: Singapore -> China -> Thailand -> ?

Anyway, Seagate disks are rubbish nowadays, only 2 year warranty. WD still has 5 year warranty.

Let's hope price per unit storage drops further within the next 1-2 years.

Then, let's hope magnetic disks go the way of floppies, CD writers and 4:3 17" monitors.

price per unit storage drops further? hd is dirt cheap now.