Poorly informed and ignorant Singaporeans - Who is at fault.

scroobal

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As the years go by, the notion that Singaporeans are poorly informed or ignorant just gets worse. I accept that the captive media has a direct impact in view of the PAP and the Govt uses it to slant or avoid any mention of damaging or adverse content. But we cannot blame the press for all our woes in this area.

What about news and our ability to communicate with our friends, colleagues, acquaintances and the man on the street. Take for example, my comments about Shanmugam and Foo Mee Har. These are not deep dark secrets, dragged out by torture or by some sort of coercion. Both these individuals conducted these things in public. Both these individuals have chosen to run for public office and the way the PAP has portrayed themselves as white than white, their past just does not sit with the image or the office. Nobody could be bothered if they were not running for public office.

I can understand if the 99% of Singaporeans had no clue about Old man's former Head of Security Branch as there was news black-out and the whole thing was hushed up, the CBT of funds quashed and no prosecution took place.

Lets take one simple example - Shanmugam, a SC and his former father-in-law also an SC had a few sharp exchanges in court and these made the rounfs and pretty much common knowledge.

We carry on this way and we have ourselves to blame. Imagine, Foo Mee Har, a Malaysian, raised in Malaysia and began her working career here. Her husband chose to ignore payment from her employer and bankruptcy notice was issued. Her conduct with her boss was clearly outlined in this forum and I am not talking they kneeling down together in prayer for the well-being of the country. What does it say about this individual. What does it say about us as voters.

Both these individuals never denied anything despite these surfacing prior to the recent GE. Any rational, sane and honest individual would have issued a letter or a statement denying it. Yet none appeared.

Let take Yaacob, a long standing cabinet and an MP who sat in Singapore Parliament for 14 years. Yet no one knew that he was married to an American. Most people appeared stunned.. By the way, the Singapore Cabinet is not your neighbourhood provision store hidden in some HDB estate.

We seem more interested and knowledgeable about some third rate MediaCorp artiste, ghost in Pulau Tekong, and mercenary sportmen and women. Truly sad.
 
sinkies only care bout themselves....

where is the link to your Shanmugam thread...? can share??

anyway when you shoot tan kin lian, he end up looking defensive... if they defend it just bring publicity to what they wan to hide only.....
 
Everyone Will Just Ignore You Completely

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No use ! You folks just don't want my formula - reject it outright and hope for the best ? The so-called best is another GE ? I can tell you, you are going to lose big this time round. It all depends whether the old folks are dying more or less and whether fake citizens FTs are going to be more or just they are just retaining the status quo = PR. PAP need lots of FTs as citizens to dilute your pro-oppo votes. I don't see how can be better. The only obstruction is citizenship = NSF !

Or else, ... my formula = revolution ! Are you willing to squeeze that trigger ? Of course, we need more men to fight fascists.

This lawyer is a great liar, he's NOT a doctor. Both are Hakka, but only this fascist can't speak his own dialect - what a shame ! I prefer the other one who freed China of monarchy and introducing the 3 principles of democracy.



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I prefer the other one who freed China of monarchy and introducing the 3 principles of democracy.

自由 平等 博爱 was literally copied wholesale from the French - Liberté, égalité, fraternité.

We seem more interested and knowledgeable about some third rate MediaCorp artiste, ghost in Pulau Tekong, and mercenary sportmen and women. Truly sad.

Regarding Sham, Foo, Yacoob, only when people's livelihood are threatened will we see change happening on the broader level. Let us not kid ourselves - these issues are not widely publicized outside the forum and even if they were it is generally tolerable. Bread and butter is a big deal to people than scandalous rendezvous - For years Parisians have been gossiping about the court excesses of Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI, but it was only starvation that caused to the chain of events leading to the duo meeting the guillotine. And if historical records are right, they were mostly harmless compared to many others in authoritarian regimes.

When one is well-fed and generally contented in life, people seek to block such negatives out of their lives and focus on the mundane. That is the holy grail of happiness. The secret sauce of the PAP recipe. Not everyone wants to think about aspects of their lives they can hardly control, and can't control because taking to the streets was never an option.

Take the forum criticisms with a pinch of salt. Not everyone can sustain on a daily diet of inequality they think they can't do anything about.
 
Sinkies are still in denial. They still think that their PAP govt is still whiter than white. It's like Teflon - nothing seems to stick. To many many Sinkies, our PAP govt is just that - incapable of hurting a fly, and only the evil Opposition parties and the anti-PAP block are forever seeking to find fault, dent them or smear them.

It's like Hitler's Germany - the people just couldnt believe they were at war, or losing, or had an evil dictator, or committing atrocities, genocide, Holocaust, or burning down the Reichstag and blaming the Opposition.

Sinkies still think that without a PAP majority govt, there will be mayhem, riots, economic ruin, and assets value destruction.
 
Spot on bro. I suspect that you must have held or holding a senior position with the govt. What you wrote below is exactly the formula the old used in the first 30 years and this was often discussed in Civil College and other fora. It does seem to work as it stops people thinking and the desire to learn outside their direct interest also falls. Some of us feel that he wants the people to be self-sufficient when it comes to medical health, welfare etc but hooked up to govt and the PAP saline drip when it comes to politicals and control over the country.
自由 平等 博爱 was literally copied wholesale from the French - Liberté, égalité, fraternité.When one is well-fed and generally contented in life, people seek to block such negatives out of their lives and focus on the mundane. That is the holy grail of happiness. The secret sauce of the PAP recipe. Not everyone wants to think about aspects of their lives they can hardly control, and can't control because taking to the streets was never an option. .
 
Sadly that is true. 2016 will be interesting. There is an excitement that someone or some people will be prepared to do an online broadsheet. This is also the fear that led to Yahoo being sued. That direction did not come from SPH. Yahoo was very careful so ended up using a similar approach as SPH but carried sensitive stories but did not bury among the mush. So they could not do what they did to TOC.
Sinkies still think that without a PAP majority govt, there will be mayhem, riots, economic ruin, and assets value destruction.
 
Sadly that is true. 2016 will be interesting. There is an excitement that someone or some people will be prepared to do an online broadsheet. This is also the fear that led to Yahoo being sued. That direction did not come from SPH. Yahoo was very careful so ended up using a similar approach as SPH but carried sensitive stories but did not bury among the mush. So they could not do what they did to TOC.

2016 is a long way ...More juicy news will be revealed before 2016
 
自由 平等 博爱 was literally copied wholesale from the French - Liberté, égalité, fraternité.



Regarding Sham, Foo, Yacoob, only when people's livelihood are threatened will we see change happening on the broader level. Let us not kid ourselves - these issues are not widely publicized outside the forum and even if they were it is generally tolerable. Bread and butter is a big deal to people than scandalous rendezvous - For years Parisians have been gossiping about the court excesses of Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI, but it was only starvation that caused to the chain of events leading to the duo meeting the guillotine. And if historical records are right, they were mostly harmless compared to many others in authoritarian regimes.

When one is well-fed and generally contented in life, people seek to block such negatives out of their lives and focus on the mundane. That is the holy grail of happiness. The secret sauce of the PAP recipe. Not everyone wants to think about aspects of their lives they can hardly control, and can't control because taking to the streets was never an option.

Take the forum criticisms with a pinch of salt. Not everyone can sustain on a daily diet of inequality they think they can't do anything about.

I agree, There has to be some heavy issues for shit to kick off on this Island, since everyone has food and shelter and a large no. have jobs.. After the G.E for the 1st time in Sg History the people have pop their head out of the sewage hole and told a good look at the PAP.. Today Every corner of cyberspace is being controlled by Anti-PAP supporters and no one seems scare/shy to use vulgarity on them, Not only online but between mates on the street and at times between strangers who would openly say FUCK PAP. So now we have Information/Consciousness what we need next is a Spark.. And that spark might come from a Recession.. If recession does hit..We know that Sg will be hit hard and many have said that it would be much much harder then the one in 08(With constant negative out-looks and hearing that retrenchment has been happening starting from a couple of weeks ago, 2012 i believe will be heavy) If recession does happen, Then i believe there would be some heavy insults and aggression towards the Ruling..(Job lost and difficulty in getting jobs cum High foreigners/foreign labor...Many will feel bitter) Part 1/2 is completed(Information/Conciseness) now we have to wait for 2/2.
 
any1 can SIC scoobal comments about Shanmugam ???

SIC? If you are asking someone here to verify scroobal's comments about Shan, I have no problem. Scroobal is 100% accurate on Shan. FMH? No idea other than the fact that Stanchart chaps merely smiled when asked.
 
Sadly that is true. 2016 will be interesting. There is an excitement that someone or some people will be prepared to do an online broadsheet. This is also the fear that led to Yahoo being sued. That direction did not come from SPH. Yahoo was very careful so ended up using a similar approach as SPH but carried sensitive stories but did not bury among the mush. So they could not do what they did to TOC.

I started to get interested in politics somewhere in late 09.. During that period it was very rare to see anti-pap sentiments.. One fine day i think late 2010.. I clicked yahoo and saw this article..And i was shocked at the content.. YAHOO WAS POSTING news about PAP/Singapore in a whole other style which is totally slanting opposite the pap, as day went by more and more of this type of articles started showing up regularly and not only my comment was vulgar other comments posted there was also outrages..I was in aus then so i took the benefit of my distance from sg to blast pap, there was a few of us then..But as day was going by more and more of this articles was showing up and more people started joining. I remembered when PAP was introducing candidates..Yahoo would post almost immediately and when the next 3 candidates showed, One was T.P.L.. And i was the first to comment.. I said "Putting a young girl that doesnt know about life in a ward full of old people, Good luck" something like that.. And it immediately kicked off everything and everyone started blasting her... LOL... Yahoo being a more "Branded" website coupled with T.R(Thug Reporting) defiantly worked hand in hand to bring PAP to a watershed election..
 
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SIC? If you are asking someone here to verify scroobal's comments about Shan, I have no problem. Scroobal is 100% accurate on Shan. FMH? No idea other than the fact that Stanchart chaps merely smiled when asked.

SHaring is Caring .... i cant find his original comment... can share the links???
 
sinkies only care bout themselves....

where is the link to your Shanmugam thread...? can share??

anyway when you shoot tan kin lian, he end up looking defensive... if they defend it just bring publicity to what they wan to hide only.....

This is the best I can do, brocoli. It is post a year back, in the old file server.

Thread Title: Shanmugam, his office fling and his attempts to hide it.

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Originally Posted by scroobal

While working in Allen and Gledhill, he began an affair with a Chinese colleague. He was having a right royal fling and had no qualms about visiting the various watering holes with her. I am not surprised since he's from SJI. Every Josephian friend that I know of is either gay or a horny guy with loose morals...

The ethics behind forcing his subordinates to escort his girlfriend around is pretty much sub-standard. but , did the subordinates get to screw ? you didn't say

Originally Posted by GoldenDragon
He was matchmade by SR Nathan to his current spouse. hi there 1. honest, what a loser! 2. still need matchmaking stuff. 3. sheepish pinky was also matchmade right!

He was matchmade by SR Nathan to his current spouse. I thought he is LKY's blue-eyed boy? What position he attained (as lawyer) before he become a cabinet minister?

Originally Posted by Dreamer1 Scroobal Thank u for this write-up,as far as I know,no one has managed to pen it so far,it has been whispering all over,of course only among those who do not believe MM LKY with all his "SAINTS" Cheers The legal fraternity all aware of this coz Shan's father-in-law also a SC and both don't enjoy a cordial relationship.

Loofydralb replied 1 year ago
Good Mr scroo. It ties up a few loose ends. Like why LKY/LHL picked him as Home Minister. Obviously LHL has the keys to the cupboard where Shan keeps his skeletons. Thus he is obliged to toe the line. My guess is he will be LHL's front man from now on. Hmmm......that sounds too nice. More like dog.

kingrant replied 1 year ago
haha..served him right. Did he think that like MSK, his wife and family will cover up for him? I am glad they abandoned the bastard liek some load of stinking pooh. Why is it that minions like MSK were risking their freedom and lives fighting for a real cause whereas supposedly talented dickheads like him could think of nothing but trivialities like humping their colleagues? too much time.

From Neddy Forensic & Digital Fingerprint Detective Inc :cool:
 
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For brocoli again.

Excuse my Neddy Forensic & Digital Fingerprint Detective Inc. I just opened this service 5 mins ago.

This the the best I can do for interested Singaporeans.


Shanmugam, his office fling and his attempts to hide it.
After reading Shanmugam's explanation I am really upset as he is obviously treating us like idiots. Well here is tit for tat.

This is the type of caliber that we have in govt and a cabinet minister at that. This prick was married to the daughter of an SC. While working in Allen and Gledhill, he began an affair with a Chinese colleague. He was having a right royal fling and had no qualms about visiting the various watering holes with her. His favourite lunch hangout was a coffeeshop run by Glen Knight near Hong Lim Green where he and his lady will be busy petty themselves silly oblivious to a wall mounted mirror and that people were watching.

When the wife and her family came to know, our dear minister hatched what he thought was a cunning plot. He duty rostered his Indian lawyer underlings to escort the lady every lunch time to suggest that this Chinese lady prefers the company of Indians. And he was mistaken for one of his staff. Being subordinates, our lawyers and officers of the Supreme Court had little choice but to accept.

So how did the the in-laws finally nail the prick. Obviously they did not hire ISD.

To cut a long story short, after the divorce, he was told to find a wife, so that they can make him a minister. So a quick bang instant marriage was arranged and in a month the marriage was done in Chennai.

The affair is not the issue. The ethics behind forcing his subordinates to escort his girlfriend around is pretty much sub-standard.
 
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thanks man... i cant up you cause I am nobody
No worries. Just trying to help.
I see if I can up myself. Failing that, no harm. I am not after points. :D

It does seem to work as it stops people thinking and the desire to learn outside their direct interest also falls. Some of us feel that he wants the people to be self-sufficient when it comes to medical health, welfare etc but hooked up to govt and the PAP saline drip when it comes to politicals and control over the country.

So, Kishore Mahbubani (author of "Can Asians Think") became dean of LKY School to stop him thinking too much ?????

Your words make me feel a lot better at my decision to run road. At that point in time, everything seem so bleak. Everyone like zombies except for a few lonely fighters. No one understood my insecurities. "No Good Years"


Bad things happen when Good people fail to take actions!
 
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No worries. Just trying to help.
I see if I can up myself. Failing that, no harm. I am not after points.



So, Kishore Mahbubani (author of "Can Asians Think") became dean of LKY School to stop him thinking too much ?????

Your words make me feel a lot better at my decision to run road. At that point in time, everything seem so bleak. Everyone like zombies except for a few lonely fighters. No one understood my insecurities.


Bad things happen when Good people fail to take actions!

are you an exile?? why run road
 
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