A balanced diet vs Pescetarianism

[scroobal]

Lunch always outside so anything with fish goes such as Tuna sandwiches, fish soup (love the stuff), Malay stall, selar/kunning with riced and 2 vegs etc. Dinner is certainly fish. Steamed, fried , poached. etc. From Selar, Seabass, to Tenggriri. A lot of tenggiri in later life as it had good oil content.

Now anything in moderation. The lady friend who was on fish diet nearly all her adult life and passed away really got to me.

I am now got it my mind that the body needs all kinds of stuff and it will sort itself out. Just got to any hawker centre and food outlet. The healthy AH Peks in their 70s and 80s seem to be slim or moderate size tucking away on a variety of food.

Say that again! How many fishes you consume a day and what kind of fish?

Nevermind, I can take that little risk once a while.

 

[HedgeTrader]

I am now got it my mind that the body needs all kinds of stuff and it will sort itself out. Just got to any hawker centre and food outlet. The healthy AH Peks in their 70s and 80s seem to be slim or moderate size tucking away on a variety of food.

This one good observation I agree. The eat anything uncles slim. The eat halal only aunties fatter than pigs even though halal no pigs LOL

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

There are entire books written about why people should eat only fish (as a protein source). I never bought that hype. There are some points to bear in mind concerning dieting:

(a) The science dished out for popular consumption is not always good science. In fact there is a lot of bad science masquerading as knowledge especially when there are professional book writing careers and health supplement industry profits at stake. Many so-called learned authors mistake correlation for causality, a fundamental scientific error.

(b) Disease is caused by multitude of factors, diet is but one factor and certainly not the major factor in many cases.

(c) Aerobic exercise and proper hydration, and avoidance of cigarettes are IMO more impt watching like a hawk over what you eat. 12 glasses of water a day, exercise 5 times a week, and you can have as many beef steaks as you want.

In my early years I followed a regime of only eating fish and vegetables similar to Steve Jobs. I felt so much better, could do all activities with a clear mind and physical prowess. Nothing to do with animal rights or religion. At that time a number of people were following the diet and it was quite popular in the 80s. Then some who had followed the diet began knocking off early. The has never been a scientific research along these lines that I know of. What I however did notice is that those amongst us, family members, friends, neighbours, colleagues who went on to enjoy longevity had one common trait - will eat anything but in moderation. They however avoided some obviously bad food food such as mutton soup, leap chap etc.

I personally know this lady who was quite religious about her fish and vegetables and she died of cancer in her 40s. And she was not even Cantonese. Then Steve Jobs.


I switched to a normal meals without any excesses not for any other reason but to enjoy good food. I did however note that when I was on fish and vegetable diet, hard-on was Grade A and maximum duration. When back a few times, it was the same after about 4 weeks. Any scientists, pundits, and any man on the street care to throw in your views.

 

[HedgeTrader]

I watched a documentary. Mongolians eat one thing only. Mutton, no need rice no need veggie. Except only in emergency they eat their horse. They drink one thing only, goat milk.

 

[Logisex]

Yes eat in moderation and more importantly, listen to what you body is telling you. Your body is sending you signals everyday on what it needs,

When you are hungry, your body send you a signal and when your sperm bank is full, you body also send you a signal

Nowadays I eat till I burp, then I will stop immediately irregardless of how much food there is left on the plate. I feel better that way as I have a weak stomach and I will almost always lao sai when I over eat. My dad died of stomach cancer 2 years ago and somehow I'm almost certain that I will follow his footsteps.

Living a long life is not just about what you eat, but also about how you deal with the natural responses and what your body is trying to tell you -

When you are stress, do you turn to food/alcohol instead of exercise, slowing down or simply rest and relax?
When you feel sleepy, do you ignore it or try to fight it off with coffee?
When you are getting a lot of gas in your stomach, do you try to find out the root cause - which is probably the food that you just ate or simply pop a few carbon tablets?
When you feel horny, do you try to restrain it by chanting or taking cold showers instead of heading to GL?
..............

 

[scroobal]

Bro, the in the early 80s, fish and veg so much sense. Both well known for their health properties. There were many of us and it was really hot in colleges and research centres. It was also the time that racing bikes started to become popular. It was either bikes or long distance running.

I am aware that pure veg is a suicidal diet and the number of Vegans with bad temper, inconsiderate behaviour and generally poor IQ from those days were obvious so the fish was in place. Also found out the Brahmins happily eating eggs and fish. It was great health wise, energy high etc. Then noticed people in the regime dropping down too early.

There are entire books written about why people should eat only fish (as a protein source). I never bought that hype. There are some points to bear in mind concerning dieting:

(a) The science dished out for popular consumption is not always good science. In fact there is a lot of bad science masquerading as knowledge especially when there are professional book writing careers and health supplement industry profits at stake. Many so-called learned authors mistake correlation for causality, a fundamental scientific error.

(b) Disease is caused by multitude of factors, diet is but one factor and certainly not the major factor in many cases.

(c) Aerobic exercise and proper hydration, and avoidance of cigarettes are IMO more impt watching like a hawk over what you eat. 12 glasses of water a day, exercise 5 times a week, and you can have as many beef steaks as you want.

 

[scroobal]

That's evolution where the body changes to accommodate. A lot of aboriginals have similar ability to adapt. In the latter's case, alcohol cannot be broken down and thus they get wasted. Alcohol recent introduction and body not ready.

I watched a documentary. Mongolians eat one thing only. Mutton, no need rice no need veggie. Except only in emergency they eat their horse. They drink one thing only, goat milk.

 

[kingrant]

Acrylamide is a suspected carcinogen. It is formed when certain carbohydrate-rich foods are heated above 120 deg C by baking, frying or roasting. So french fries, breads are culprits. Strangely not found when boiled or pressure cooked above 100C.

Acrylamide has also been found in black olives, prunes, and dried pears. So is prune juice.

So when I see people extolling a combi of good foods, it doesnt mean nec that the overall result is also good. Too high yin is no good just as too much yang, the TCM sinseh will say. Btw, TCM is becoming recognised as alternative medicine even by govt auths. SGH e.g. has a TCM institute and clinic near the kopitiam. It wasnt nominated for the Nobel though, not even once.

As some bros have said, listen to yr body, and just eat normally, not always eating one diet but a mixture and varied.

 

[Ramseth]

That's evolution where the body changes to accommodate. A lot of aboriginals have similar ability to adapt. In the latter's case, alcohol cannot be broken down and thus they get wasted. Alcohol recent introduction and body not ready.

Alcohol helps disgestion and relieves constipation. The beer belly is a myth. Those with so-called beer bellies simply ate too much and happened to drinking too and blamed it on beer. No alcohol can be retained in the body. However, drinking too much such as in a binge can overwork the liver and kidneys, that's true too.

Another bad effect of alcohol is the more infamous drunkenness. Too much alcohol in the bloodstream means the brains can't regulate the blood flowing through it normally too. The correct way to drink alcohol is small sip by small sip, with or after meal. Drinking before meal on empty stomache should be restricted to one glass as an appetizer as alcohol when first entering an empty stomache has an appetizing effect. However, if you don't follow up with eating food, the effect will be numbed as you go on drinking and won't feel hungry for food anymore.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Bro, the in the early 80s, fish and veg so much sense. Both well known for their health properties. There were many of us and it was really hot in colleges and research centres. It was also the time that racing bikes started to become popular. It was either bikes or long distance running.

I am aware that pure veg is a suicidal diet and the number of Vegans with bad temper, inconsiderate behaviour and generally poor IQ from those days were obvious so the fish was in place. Also found out the Brahmins happily eating eggs and fish. It was great health wise, energy high etc. Then noticed people in the regime dropping down too early.

People are dropping early because of stress, pollution, and frankly speaking, an inability to self-regulate. This is not to say we should all be hermits. As another forummer has said, its impt to listen to your own body. Regularly pushing yourself to physical exhaustion, downing cigarettes and excessive alcohol, flying into a rage every other day, are all contributing factors. You can eat a fantastic fish-veg diet but if you yell at every taxi driver who annoys you you will literally stop your own heart.

Here are what I deem as crucial, beginning with the most important:

(a) mental balance
(b) proper hydration (12 glasses water daily)
(c) ample aerobic exercise (preferably every day, even if for 20 minutes)
(d) develop upper body and leg muscles to help keep metabolism up

 

[kingrant]

Methinks beer bellies are caused by excessive intake of cottage cheese and flax oils. You shld try Budwiser. Makes you wiser after the fact.

Alcohol helps disgestion and relieves constipation. The beer belly is a myth. Those with so-called beer bellies simply ate too much and happened to drinking too and blamed it on beer. No alcohol can be retained in the body. However, drinking too much such as in a binge can overwork the liver and kidneys, that's true too.

Another bad effect of alcohol is the more infamous drunkenness. Too much alcohol in the bloodstream means the brains can't regulate the blood flowing through it normally too. The correct way to drink alcohol is small sip by small sip, with or after meal. Drinking before meal on empty stomache should be restricted to one glass as an appetizer as alcohol when first entering an empty stomache has an appetizing effect. However, if you don't follow up with eating food, the effect will be numbed as you go on drinking and won't feel hungry for food anymore.

 

[Ramseth]

Methinks beer bellies are caused by excessive intake of cottage cheese and flax oils. You shld try Budwiser. Makes you wiser after the fact.

Whatever cheese and whatever oil will cause you a belly if not properly digested but accumulated. That's commonsense. However, doesn't mean they're no good, they have their nutritional values too, just be moderate.

In US go for Miller, better than Budweiser. In Canada, go for Molson. In Australia, go for Victoria Bitter. In Singapore, Budweiser is overpriced and rarely available. I usually drink Thai beer, Singha or Leo.

 

[kingrant]

seems the joke was lost on you. Friendly advice: dump the beers. They're slowing you down.

Whatever cheese and whatever oil will cause you a belly if not properly digested but accumulated. That's commonsense. However, doesn't mean they're no good, they have their nutritional values too, just be moderate.

In US go for Miller, better than Budweiser. In Canada, go for Molson. In Australia, go for Victoria Bitter. In Singapore, Budweiser is overpriced and rarely available. I usually drink Thai beer, Singha or Leo.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Methinks beer bellies are caused by excessive intake of cottage cheese and flax oils. You shld try Budwiser. Makes you wiser after the fact.

Hey is this is a cheap shot at johnny in his thread?

POS the main beef is bet him and screwball not you.

The fact that you suck screwball better than a whore that can suck a ball thru a garden hose tells me how lowly you are OR you're simply the screw's clone. Which are you?

 

[psy83]

Hey is this is a cheap shot at johnny in his thread?

POS the main beef is bet him and screwball not you.

The fact that you suck screwball better than a whore that can suck a ball thru a garden hose tells me how lowly you are OR you're simply the screw's clone. Which are you?

Word.... Cuntster at it again..

 

[bullfrog]

Whoa! Sounds like johnny can't dry his butts off all the saliva soon enough with so many loyal asslickers.

 

[kingrant]

fact is, I was just waiting for it to bite. And it did! Hallelujah!

Got to give him some credit. He's not such an idiot after all.

Whoa! Sounds like johnny can't dry his butts off all the saliva soon enough with so many loyal asslickers.