Humans were in China 60,000 years earlier than previously thought

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Modern humans reached China far earlier than was previously believed, according to new evidence.
An international team analysed fossil teeth and part of a jaw unearthed in southern China in 2007 and discovered that they are at least 100,000 years old.
The jawbone shows a prominent chin - a distinctive feature that marks the human as being modern.
The discovery of early modern human remains in the Zhirendong in southern China provides the earliest evidence for the emergence of modern humans in eastern Asia.

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The findings are startling because the first humans were not believed to have arrived in East Asia until at least 60, 000 years later and will change anthropologists’ views on the emergence of modern humans in the eastern Old World.
The researchers say that the Zhirendong fossils have a mixture of modern and Neanderthal features that contrast with earlier modern humans in east Africa and southwest Asia.
This means that the discovery is likely to be seized upon by Chinese scientists who believe the controversial theory that humans in China were descended from an entirely different species, known as Homo Pekinensis, rather than the modern Homo Sapiens who came from Africa.

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Homo Erectus dominated the globe after moving from Africa



Wu Liu from the Chinese Academy of Sciences led the team that worked at the fossil site.
The Zhirendong humans also indicate early modern humans co-existed for many tens of millennia with Neanderthal humans further north and west across Eurasia.
Co-author Erik Trinkaus, one of the world's leading experts on Neanderthals, said: 'These fossils are helping to redefine our perceptions of modern human emergence in eastern Eurasia, and across the Old World more generally.
Researchers believe that the fact that modern humans and Neanderthals co-existed in east Asia means that they probably mated, creating a new species which had characteristics of both.
He said: ‘There was mating between these 'archaic' and 'modern' groups across Asia, and not just in Europe and the remainder of Africa."
‘Of more interest than who had sex with whom is the fact that modern humans had spread across southern Eurasia by 100,000 years ago, and yet archaic humans remained across the more northern areas, and even displaced the modern humans in Southwest Asia for an additional 50,000-70,000 years.
He added: ‘It argues for very little adaptive advantage on the part of these modern humans.’
The find also shows that the early Chinese humans were not acting like modern humans by using beads and drawings to represent other people until almost 70, 000 years later.
Professor Trinkaus told BBC news: ‘Previous evidence for co-existence was basically between Europe and Western Asia and adjacent part of Africa, but what this suggests is that the geographical range of co-existence spread all the way across Asia, which is an enormous difference.
Professor Fred Smith of Illinois State University admitted the discovery could be controversial.
'It will remain somewhat controversial because it's only one specimen at one site, but the fact is that it is a very important piece of the puzzle,' he told the BBC.
'There's always a possibility that a date is wrong or that something has gone wrong. I don't see any [such] indication, but there's always a possibility of complications that weren't noticed or weren't completely understood.
'I'm sure that there will be some controversy, some people that are going to say: "Well, this is all well and good, but we need more information to be certain".'


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An early tribe of Africans to cross the Red Sea (lower left) from Africa into Arabia and eventually populate the globe. Some scientists believe climate change may have led to their move


The human family tree gets more complicated with every new fossil discovery.
Scientists now believe the first human like ancestors or hominids appeared around two to three million years ago.
The first homo sapiens appeared around 400,000 years ago, while modern humans emerged in the last 100,000 years.
The latest thinking is that modern humans evolved in Africa and left to colonise the world around 50,000 to 1000 years ago.
It is thought that 70,000 years ago a dry period caused Red Sea levels to fall and the gap across its mouth to shrink from 18 miles to eight miles. A tribe of as few as 200 period took advantage of this and crossed to Arabia.
There they met the descandents of previous migrants who had left Africa much earlier - including the Neanderthals of Europe.
The research was published in the online early edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
 
Blasphemy! God created Earth 6000 years ago. How could there be humans in China 100000 years ago? Repent you spastic maggot :oIo::oIo::oIo:
 
All those theories about all humans originating from Africa is pure bullshit.
 
makes a lot more sense than creation theory

Human being just like every living thing originated from the soil. It could be anywhere and everywhere on earth for the first one, not necessarily Babylon or Africa. Adam is considered to be nominally the first man just because Moses happened to be the first one to put in down in writing. And that writing became holy scripture.

Just ask yourself one question. How come God was so hostile against Pharoah and Egyptians if all are his creation?
 
All those theories about all humans originating from Africa is pure bullshit.

genetically, ancestral tribes of early chinese who settled in the china basin are traced to africa. they left africa very much earlier than those who populated present day namibia and south africa and later went on to migrate and populate the rest of the planet around 50,000 years ago. my ancestors were neantherthals and they left africa much earlier than the early chinese tribes. we don't know why they left africa around 100,000 years ago, but one reason might be attributed to their intelligence and foresight. they knew africa would remain a shithole and the further they were from the shithole the better for their future. before waiting for a prolonged drought to hit the entire african continent around 60,000 years ago, they were smart enough to get out as soon as humanoidly possible. smart move.
 
yes there's a documentary series on human evolution on bbc knowledge.. hosted by a chiobu blond doctor. It was said that chinese are not homo sapiens but another species of early man because we left africa earlier than thought.
 
It was said that chinese are not homo sapiens but another species of early man because we left africa earlier than thought.

That would definitely explain why the Chinese behave worse than the rest of mankind.
 
boss, i think you are rather ignorant. there are many talented PRCs out there, just that you haven't met them.
so stop being bias!:rolleyes:

That would definitely explain why the Chinese behave worse than the rest of mankind.
 
This theory is based on existing discoveries. It will change as more discoveries are made.
 
genetically, ancestral tribes of early chinese who settled in the china basin are traced to africa. they left africa very much earlier

:confused: I always wonder why would someone want to walk from Africa to China ? :confused:
 
:confused: I always wonder why would someone want to walk from Africa to China ? :confused:

Research shows that some Africans actually did walk from Africa to China. When they got there, they were so disgusted by the behaviour of the Chinese that they turned around and walked all the way back again.
 
auntie sam, good morning!:D

btw, the below is a load of crap that doesn't make any sense.

Research shows that some Africans actually did walk from Africa to China. When they got there, they were so disgusted by the behaviour of the Chinese that they turned around and walked all the way back again.
 
:confused: I always wonder why would someone want to walk from Africa to China ? :confused:

due to climatic changes that forced animals to migrate for greener pastures, early african tribes that ended up in china were following their food. it took generations to reach there. due to a changing climate, diet, mutation, and time, they started to become outwardly different from their cousins in africa. sex must be horrible then because they all looked extremely ugly.
 
due to climatic changes that forced animals to migrate for greener pastures, early african tribes that ended up in china were following their food. it took generations to reach there. due to a changing climate, diet, mutation, and time, they started to become outwardly different from their cousins in africa. sex must be horrible then because they all looked extremely ugly.

That's the problem before invention of custom and quarantine LOL
 
From : http://jeffyen.blogspot.com/2007/10/my-dna-results-are-out-genographic.html

Jeff's Blog :

My DNA Results Are Out! / Genographic Project

One and a half years ago, I wrote about the Genographic project, a DNA test that would tell me where my ancestors came from. We're not just talking about my great-great-great-grandfather, but my actual ancestors who lived 30,000-80,000 years ago! I finally got around to ordering the kit in August, and two months later, the results arrived.

The results are found online through a password protected site. Here are some additional information.


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Your Y-chromosome results identify you as a member of haplogroup O2. The genetic markers that define your ancestral history reach back roughly 60,000 years to the first common marker of all non-African men, M168, and follow your lineage to present day, ending with P31, the defining marker of haplogroup O2.

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If you look at the map highlighting your ancestors' route, you will see that members of haplogroup O2 carry the following Y-chromosome markers:

M168 > M89 > M9 > M175 > P31

Your Ancestral Journey: What We Know Now

M168: Your Earliest Ancestor
Time of Emergence: Roughly 50,000 years ago
Place of Origin: Africa


The man who gave rise to the first genetic marker in your lineage probably lived in northeast Africa in the region of the Rift Valley, perhaps in present-day Ethiopia , Kenya, or Tanzania, some 31,000 to 79,000 years ago. Scientists put the most likely date for when he lived at around 50,000 years ago. His descendants became the only lineage to survive outside of Africa, making him the common ancestor of every non-African man living today.


M89: Moving Through the Middle East
Time of Emergence: 45,000 years ago
Place: Northern Africa or the Middle East

The next male ancestor in your ancestral lineage is the man who gave rise to M89, a marker found in 90 to 95 percent of all non-Africans. This man was born around 45,000 years ago in northern Africa or the Middle East.

The first people to leave Africa likely followed a coastal route that eventually ended in Australia. Your ancestors followed the expanding grasslands and plentiful game to the Middle East and beyond, and were part of the second great wave of migration out of Africa.


While many of the descendants of M89 remained in the Middle East, others continued to follow the great herds of buffalo, antelope, woolly mammoths, and other game through what is now modern-day Iran to the vast steppes of Central Asia.



M9: The Eurasian Clan Spreads Wide and Far
Time of Emergence: 40,000 years ago
Place: Iran or southern Central Asia

Your next ancestor, a man born around 40,000 years ago in Iran or southern Central Asia, gave rise to a genetic marker known as M9, which marked a new lineage diverging from the M89 Middle Eastern Clan. His descendants, of which you are one, spent the next 30,000 years populating much of the planet.

This large lineage, known as the Eurasian Clan, dispersed gradually over thousands of years. Seasoned hunters followed the herds ever eastward, along the vast super highway of Eurasian steppe. Eventually their path was blocked by the massive mountain ranges of south Central Asia—the Hindu Kush, the Tian Shan, and the Himalayas.

The three mountain ranges meet in a region known as the "Pamir Knot," located in present-day Tajikistan. Here the tribes of hunters split into two groups. Some moved north into Central Asia, others moved south into what is now Pakistan and the Indian subcontinent.

These different migration routes through the Pamir Knot region gave rise to separate lineages.

Most people native to the Northern Hemisphere trace their roots to the Eurasian Clan. Nearly all North Americans and East Asians are descended from the man described above, as are most Europeans and many Indians.

M175: The East Asian Clan
Time of Emergence: 35,000 years ago
Place of Origin: Central or East Asia


Your genetic trail continues with an ancestor who carried marker M175 and was born around 35,000 years ago in Central or East Asia. This ancestor was part of the M9 Eurasian clan that, encountering impassable mountain ranges, migrated to the north and east.

These early Siberian hunters continued to travel east along the great steppes, gradually crossing southern Siberia. Some of them, perhaps taking advantage of the Dzhungarian Gap used thousands of years later by Genghis Khan to invade Central Asia, made it into present-day China.


Today, some 80 to 90 percent of all people living east of Central Asia's great mountain ranges are members of haplogroup O, the East Asian Clan. The marker M175 is nearly nonexistent in western Asia and Europe.

There were actually two waves of migration into this region. While your ancestors populated the region from the north, another group approached from the south. Descendants of the Coastal Clan—people who left Africa perhaps 60,000 years ago and headed along the coastline toward Australia—may have reached East Asia by 50,000 years ago.

The present composition of East Asia still shows evidence of this ancient north-south divide, showing a clear distinction in genetic heritage between northern and southern Chinese.

P31
Time of Emergence: Roughly 30,000 years ago
Place of Origin: East Asia

Roughly 30,000 years ago, one of your ancestors first displayed the genetic marker P31, which now defines your haplogroup O2. This man lived in eastern Asia, perhaps in southern China, and his descendents spread south into Southeast Asia, east to Korea, and north to Japan.

This distinctly Asian haplogroup he sired is most common today in Southeast Asian nations like Malaysia and Thailand.

This is where your genetic trail, as we know it today, ends

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The use of DNA studies is more accurate and more scientific than the old method of studying the shape of the skeleton, (anatomy) etc. Some silly Chinese chauvinists still believe that they are descended from the Peking Man - this is unscientific and belonged to the discredited "science" of the 1930s......

The modern study of genes and DNA is the way to go..... not debunked theories of the 1930s.

AND modern DNA studies confirm all living humans today are descended from one single female some 50,000 years ago, not millions.....
 
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