SDP losers whine about unfairness

[steffychun]

Well written? Maybe the English language. There's no poor grammar and broken English. But I just disdain articles that cannot even avoid simple contradictions within one same text.

"The reality is that nothing much has changed. The political system which includes the election process and the media is still in the hands of the PAP. The outcomes of the electoral contests are not surprising."

"The results are real and the shift in political outlook is significant, even dramatic and the future for democracy in this country remains bright."

US Ambassador to Singapore:"He described the elections as free and fair, with a viable opposition."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1152682/1/.html

 

[HedgeTrader]

US Ambassador to Singapore:"He described the elections as free and fair, with a viable opposition."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1152682/1/.html

Shit Dung Party last time KPKB want US come to be election referee. Now their own mouths full of shit, shaffed in by US LOL

 

[Elite Killer]

US Ambassador to Singapore:"He described the elections as free and fair, with a viable opposition."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1152682/1/.html

Shit Dung Party last time KPKB want US come to be election referee. Now their own mouths full of shit, shaffed in by US LOL

Fuck you lah PAP doggies! :oIo::oIo::oIo:

 

[nonsense]

US Ambassador to Singapore:"He described the elections as free and fair, with a viable opposition."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1152682/1/.html

Shit Dung Party last time KPKB want US come to be election referee. Now their own mouths full of shit, shaffed in by US LOL

nonsense lah PAP doggies. They are still way better than you typing here all day to porlumpar! Fuck your mother CB ok? :oIo::oIo::oIo:

 

[steffychun]

Shit Dung Party last time KPKB want US come to be election referee. Now their own mouths full of shit, shaffed in by US LOL

Aw. SDP has no support now. I thought their big liar friend Gopalan was helping them.

 

[Kid278]

I think it unfair to insult people because they disagree. Democracy is about agreeing to disagree and majority wins.

My personal opinion is no way PAP is going to be thrown out of power by SDP style. WP style still got hope.

Everything happens for a reason. I think you cant really fault 'methink' from stalking 'steffychun'. This person seems to be a spurned fallout and had an axe to grind with Dr Chee and his SDP. His persistent attacks obviously says it all. And this can be a piss off to people with different perceptions. Anyway it's a free forum, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just like you see WP as a hopeful while I dont see anything there even though they are making head ways. They'll speak up, make some noises in parliament but they will toe the line and nothing is going to change.

I dont see seeking to change the system as being radical and confrontational, I believe it is such politics that will bring about the downfall of the papzis. A change for better freedom, better politics and a better tomorrow. SDP style of politics is ahead of its time, it may not go down well with older folks of yesteryears but with a paradigm shift in people's thinking and the more educated younger generation coming on, things are not going to be the same. This is just my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.:p

 

[steffychun]

Everything happens for a reason. I think you cant really fault 'methink' from stalking 'steffychun'. This person seems to be a spurned fallout and had an axe to grind with Dr Chee and his SDP. His persistent attacks obviously says it all. And this can be a piss off to people with different perceptions. Anyway it's a free forum, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just like you see WP as a hopeful while I dont see anything there even though they are making head ways. They'll speak up, make some noises in parliament but they will toe the line and nothing is going to change.

I dont see seeking to change the system as being radical and confrontational, I believe it is such politics that will bring about the downfall of the papzis. A change for better freedom, better politics and a better tomorrow. SDP style of politics is ahead of its time, it may not go down well with older folks of yesteryears but with a paradigm shift in people's thinking and the more educated younger generation coming on, things are not going to be the same. This is just my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.:p

Well your opinion is shallow. Please join the Tea Party.

 

[cleareyes]

how about you doggie?

Married to the pappies? Carrying their balls is all you do here?

Go get a life doggie stuffychute...

and you wonder why SDP cant even gain 40% of popular votes?

 

[steffychun]

and you wonder why SDP cant even gain 40% of popular votes?

Great Answer!

SDP will say election is unfair and unfair and unfair as the WP gains more seats.

 

[Kid278]

Well your opinion is shallow. Please join the Tea Party.

Dont be too quick to judge, we will see about that. Unlike you I respect and support all opposition parties, I dont go around playing down oppositions like someone spurned, not at a time when everyone is taking on an evil regime the papzis. Shallow or otherwise, I dont think anyone with your level of intelligence is capable of grasping an understanding.:p

 

[steffychun]

Facts stand.

Under Chiam, 4 seats in parliament.

Under Chee, no seats in parliament, lowest percetnage of votes, and even when the WP captures the largest number of seats, they still complain it is unfair.

Even the UK's BNP is better than the SDP.

 

[Ramseth]

Dont be too quick to judge, we will see about that. Unlike you I respect and support all opposition parties, I dont go around playing down oppositions like someone spurned, not at a time when everyone is taking on an evil regime the papzis. Shallow or otherwise, I dont think anyone with your level of intelligence is capable of grasping an understanding.:p

That's a very dangerous and detrimental view to your own personal political understanding and enlightenment. Not all opposition parties are the same. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many difference opposition parties. Politics is about the power to run the country. If chaos is your wish, or you can't see that your wish can result in chaos, I respect your wish and vote democratically, let it be counted, and let's see who're in majority.

 

[steffychun]

That's a very dangerous and detrimental view to your own personal political understanding and enlightenment. Not all opposition parties are the same. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many difference opposition parties. Politics is about the power to run the country. If chaos is your wish, or you can't see that your wish can result in chaos, I respect your wish and vote democratically, let it be counted, and let's see who're in majority.

Yes indeed. Democracy? Great. America has that. And the Tea Party. And Gopalan Nair.

 

[Kid278]

That's a very dangerous and detrimental view to your own personal political understanding and enlightenment. Not all opposition parties are the same. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many difference opposition parties. Politics is about the power to run the country. If chaos is your wish, or you can't see that your wish can result in chaos, I respect your wish and vote democratically, let it be counted, and let's see who're in majority.

You've got to be kidding, having different political views are deemed as wish for chaos and can result in chaos. Come on, you can do better than that. That's fear mongering, stay away from such silly conjecture.:p

 

[Ramseth]

You've got to be kidding, having different political views are deemed as wish for chaos and can result in chaos. Come on, you can do better than that. That's fear mongering, stay away from such silly conjecture.:p

I'm not mongering anything except democracy and let your vote be counted whatever you think. You think all opposition parties are the same, that's your opinion. I think not and it'd be chaotic, that's my opinion. You don't win and I don't win. Majority wins. That's democracy. That's all.

 

[steffychun]

I'm not mongering anything except democracy and let your vote be counted whatever you think. You think all opposition parties are the same, that's your opinion. I think not and it'd be chaotic, that's my opinion. You don't win and I don't win. Majority wins. That's democracy. That's all.

And even Plato noted that democracy dint the best form of government

 

[mojito]

That's a very dangerous and detrimental view to your own personal political understanding and enlightenment. Not all opposition parties are the same. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many difference opposition parties. Politics is about the power to run the country. If chaos is your wish, or you can't see that your wish can result in chaos, I respect your wish and vote democratically, let it be counted, and let's see who're in majority.

Yet WP cannot be the only solution. Without alternative press like TOC or even TRE, nobody would give airtime to their banter about PA's unfair games. So, just be aware that WP is fortunate to be riding on the wave of liberalism among youths. My take is that SDP is the most proactive in criticizing the establishment, has the strongest grasp of national issues and has, in my view, raised collective consciousness among those who peruse the internet. Don't discount their value to the opposition movement.

On the other hand WP needs to occasionally remind observers like myself that they are helping Singaporeans on national issues rather than simply local ones while helping themselves to the parliamentary seats.

SDP style of politics is ahead of its time, it may not go down well with older folks of yesteryears but with a paradigm shift in people's thinking and the more educated younger generation coming on, things are not going to be the same. This is just my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.:p

This is the resident population pyramid. With an estimated 2m immigrants in the workforce, the voter bars are likely to be much thinner for early adults. Boomers in their 50s will be the key demography most influential to voting outcome as the population pyramid slowly develops into an inverted pyramid. That is also why its the young adults are howling over getting screwed by immigrants everywhere while boomers gush about how the PAP transformed the economy and how their flats now sell for 10x the original price paid. It'll take more than a miracle/disaster to convince them to vote against their benefactors, and this may be a challenge too difficult for the younger generation to overcome.

 

[steffychun]

Yet WP cannot be the only solution. Without alternative press like TOC or even TRE, nobody would give airtime to their banter about PA's unfair games. So, just be aware that WP is fortunate to be riding on the wave of liberalism among youths. My take is that SDP is the most proactive in criticizing the establishment, has the strongest grasp of national issues and has, in my view, raised collective consciousness among those who peruse the internet. Don't discount their value to the opposition movement.

On the other hand WP needs to occasionally remind observers like myself that they are helping Singaporeans on national issues rather than simply local ones while helping themselves to the parliamentary seats.



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This is the resident population pyramid. With an estimated 2m immigrants in the workforce, the voter bars are likely to be much thinner for early adults. Boomers in their 50s will be the key demography most influential to voting outcome as the population pyramid slowly develops into an inverted pyramid. That is also why its the young adults are howling over getting screwed by immigrants everywhere while boomers gush about how the PAP transformed the economy and how their flats now sell for 10x the original price paid. It'll take a miracle/disaster to convince them to vote against their benefactors, and this may be a challenge too difficult for the younger generation to overcome.

Several issues here. One, what percentage of the population reads the MSM and Social Media and what percentage reads just the MSM? Given your table, it is not sure that social media immediately translates into the most libertarian votes--SDP votes. Second, what is the orthodoxy and what is the alternative vision set by the social media? Let's even step back and read academia books--people as renown as Joseph Stiglitz and Ha-Joon Chang praise the "old man" of South East Asia for his vision of economic development--however much SDP tries to discount it. Most importantly, does social media work? GE-wise, possibly but the WP didnt need the social media to win Aljunied--it didnt fight the PAP hubris in the social media world; rather it entered replies in the ST Forum and didnt launch any outright attacks (a la Chee). PE-wise, the social media world failed. The SM tried to portray Tan JS as the lion prince that would defeat Tony Tan when in reality, TJS was a SDP-backed candidate who had no grassroots experience at all. And he didn't evne come 2nd, despite the licking by the SM world esp the now dead untrustworthy TRE.

 

[Kid278]

I'm not mongering anything except democracy and let your vote be counted whatever you think. You think all opposition parties are the same, that's your opinion. I think not and it'd be chaotic, that's my opinion. You don't win and I don't win. Majority wins. That's democracy. That's all.

You see, we can have a better understanding. Democracy, equal rights and equal privileges with respect to their political views. There never was any thought on my part that all oppositions were the same, that was your opinion. For the record I had no wish and I know we cant impose on each other our own opinion. But to say having different political views would be chaotic is one thing while to say wish for chaos or result in chaos is quite another altogether.:p

 

[Ramseth]

You see, we can have a better understanding. Democracy, equal rights and equal privileges with respect to their political views. There never was any thought on my part that all oppositions were the same, that was your opinion. For the record I had no wish and I know we cant impose on each other our own opinion. But to say having different political views would be chaotic is one thing while to say wish for chaos or result in chaos is quite another altogether.:p

Good clarification, thanks.

But I stand my ground, in certain permutation of the political equation, chaos would ensue. Yes, I said that and would stand by that. That's my right to opinion and right to voicing out my opinion. You're entitled to yours too.