Tan Kin Lian - An Opportunist? Let see the Facts

[scroobal]

This guy is really is dishonest or he can't read english. Lets take this first point that he makes. No one claimed that he was a powerful PAP Branch secretary for 30 years. The claim was that he was PAP Branch secretary. It is the highest ranking post PAP political post after MP in a constitutency.

Could he point where the claim that he was a branch secretary came for 30 years from?

"In course of 30 over years, while drawing easy income in view of its captive market, this guy never uttered a single word, never even farted in a wayward way. "

This guy is truly knows how to twist and lead the gullible ones by the nose.

Will deal with the comments later. Just imagine, first line and he is already fudging.Was he

1) not PAP branch secretary, the chairman of CCC etc in Marine Parade
2) that he worked in NTUC for 30 years which any imbecile knows is a PAP organisation.
3) Did he complain before his retirement
4) Was NTUC not given access that others did not get

18 June 2011
Smears in blogs

There are a few people who have posted untrue statements about my past activities and current intentions in several blogs and websites.

Briefly, the remarks about me were:

 I have served as a powerful PAP branch secretary for 30 years

Tan Kin Lian

 

[scroobal]

This guy knows full well what the Presidency call for. He has been a political animal all his life. He is not addressing these things to you or me but to the ignorant and gullible ones.

Look at his ridiculous claim of late. He turned down the role of MP because he got not time as his he has full time job. In the Westminster model, nearly all MPs have full time job. All the cabinet ministers have a more important job than this clown running NTUC. What about Davinder, Tan Cheng Bock, Tan Soo Khoon etc. Were they playing housewives and concentrating on MP role full time.

He was asked to go in 1985 and at time he was there was no town councils to worry about.

We are dealing with a sly and cunning chap here.

Dear Scroo

I am not sure whether TCB or TKl can disagree with the gov of they are elected on policies driven by the government and the PM.

If he stands and thats big if, what with must get his wife permission, 100,000 signatures errrr and I am waiting for him to announce he has the endorsement of mother theresa and Dawn :_)) he can at best say that he disagree's with some current gov policies but as president his role is not to agree or disagree with the decisions of cabinet.




Locke

 

[Windsor]

NTUC and many govt-linked organisations reminds me very much of the British group called "Crown Agents." Any huge purchases by their previous colonies such as Hong Kong, Brunei, Singapore and Malaysia must be conducted through this group. In effect, the commissions earned by the Crown Agents were enormous. It was a captured market and for NTUC it was mandatory for all government organisations to use NTUC for their insurance. Not much effort to build NTUC from scratch, it was that easy.

Now NTUC Fair Price is a good example of having lost their way. The reasoning behind their existence to one of profiteering and making enormous profits by hoodwinking Singaporeans that they are the most competitive Supermarket Chain in Singapore. They are far behind Sheng Siong in prices of commodities, and along the way killed great numbers of small Econ Neighbourhood shops and many small supermarkets.

Most taxi-drivers are in actual fact working as an employee rather than as an independent operator. NTUC and many such organisations approved by the MIWs killed any entrepreneurship and wanted everyone to work as an employee. To top it, the MIWs started bringing FTs to beef up the workforce is killing Singaporeans.

Why Singaporeans are fed up with people like TKL is because they had been the tools used by the MIW to bring misery to the people. Singaporeans now do realise this and that is why more and more of us are supporting the opposition. Please remember it did not happen overnight but had been festering since 30 years ago. TKL and anyone linked to the PAP are tainted.

To say he disagrees on some issues with the government and that as an EP he can do something about it is blowing in the wind. Any EP has to work with the government, period. On the other hand, TCB knows very well what is ahead and has not made contentious statements that make promises he knows he cannot keep.

 

[scroobal]

Let talk about the smears as he raised it.

1) He was a PAP branch secretary in Marine Parade as well as the CCC chairman as well as the chair for CC Management Comittee. No one claimed that he held these for 30 years.

2) I can't recall a single derogatory thing that he said against the establishment. Incumbent PAP members including cabinet ministers have commented or passed views on certain things that they don't feel right. Tan Soo Khoon, Tan Cheng Bock, Lily Neo and Wan Soon Bee comes to mind.

3) Nobody ever claimed that he ripped off NTUC insurance policyholders. Another distortion. The claim was that he was heading an organisation that had a captive market and therefore first among equals to be kind and certainly the effort needed to build business is not as demanding as an ordinary private company.

4) The mini bond issue is quite interesting. I don't think he was using the issue to build his political capital but realised that it does to some segment. The point that. His conduct during the mini-bond saga suggest that he had another agenda for this. I thus suggested that he get signed stat decalaration that he did not advise his clients of his private company to buy it and felt responsible for it or that he did not purchase any himself.

Tan Kin Lian can fool the gullibles ones but he needs to be smarter than that.

18 June 2011
Smears in blogs


 I have served as a powerful PAP branch secretary for 30 years

 I was disgruntled for not being invited to be a PAP MP

 I have been silent on national issues until recently

 Like other insurance companies, I was ripping off the policyholders of Income

 I used the opportunity of the mini-bond saga for political purpose


Tan Kin Lian

 

[scroobal]

Let me tell you the conduct of NTUC and the alleged desire to help Singapore workers.

When Carrefour began setting up store in Singapore, they did what most retailers around the world do - have loss leaders such as eggs, cooking oil , bread etc that are sold at below , near or at cost to bring people into their stores. Carrefour. began selling knife brand cooking oil below NTUC. Chandra Das as Chairman of NTUC Income threatened Lam Soon Oil with boycott and demanded that they not sell knife brand to Carrefour. This was revealed by Lam Soon Oil in court. Chandra Das and NTUC were named.

Now NTUC Fair Price is a good example of having lost their way. The reasoning behind their existence to one of profiteering and making enormous profits by hoodwinking Singaporeans that they are the most competitive Supermarket Chain in Singapore. They are far behind Sheng Siong in prices of commodities, and along the way killed great numbers of small Econ Neighbourhood shops and many small supermarkets.

 

[scroobal]

Now to talk about his achievements. Not sure if he realises but all the claims below does mean he qualifies to be a President of Singapore or even Presiden of Singapore Island Country Club.

Many of us have written to the media expressing objections on many issues. I can't recall any that he claims that he did that had an impact. We are all helpful when it comes to helping victims of many situations. I am not sure if Mini-bond is such an outstanding issue.

Could Tan Kin Lian spell out the charities and social groups that he has been associated with. I know that he was very busy for 30 years of his busy life but after retirement, maybe he has got some free time.

I begin to think that this guy does not have quality people as friends that he has ended up writing a drivel.

18 June 2011


Writing to the media

Over the past 25 years, I have written many letters that were published in the newspapers on several issues where I took positions that were different from the prevailing government
policies.

Most notable were my views about national service - which disadvantaged our male citizens in competing for jobs against females and non-citizens. I believed then that it would have a
significant negative impact on our country. We have now seen the decline in marriage and birth rates - of which national service for males is an important factor (but not the sole factor).

I have also made several suggestions on public transport, protection of consumers and other matters of concern to ordinary citizens. In most cases, there was no reply from the relevant
authority – apart from the cursory acknowledgement. Many people knew me and my views through my letters published to the newspapers.

Serving the policyholders

Many policyholders of NTUC Income know that I run the insurance cooperative on the principles of honesty and fairness and in their best interests. I kept expenses low and was able
to provide an attractive return on their life insurance savings, which is much better than those offered by other insurance companies. They are able to see the difference in how policyholders are treated, after I have retired from Income.

Helping the victims

The victims of the mini-bond saga knew that my primary purpose was to help them as much as I could during the difficult times. They appreciated my efforts and do not harbor any suspicion
that I had a political motive (which I did not).

Many of them urged me to stand for Presidential Election so that they have a chance to vote for someone who is able to be independent of the Government. Several of them have written their endorsements of my character.

Tan Kin Lian

 

[scroobal]

Hundreds of people are approached by the various PAP members to become an MP. I have been approached by 2 separate cabinet minister over a number of years. It does not mean that I would even be called for the first tea session let alone be approved for standing as MP. Many approaches to be MP are to stroke one's ego or to motivate him. Maybe he can name the person or persons that approached him to become an MP. If it was a cabinet minister, then I would concede.

The fact that he makes the claim that he does not have time tells me that must think that the rest of the MPs in parliament all over the world are so free.

18 June 2011
Smears in blogs


Serving as PAP MP

I did not aspire to be a MP under the PAP. I was asked twice if I was interested, once in 1979 and again in 1985 (not sure about the dates).

I declined on both occasions - as I believed that a MP should be a full time job and I cannot do justice to this job, while running NTUC Income as the chief executive officer. I had a stronger
reason in 1985, as I disagreed with the direction of the party policy (on national service, graduate mother scheme, etc).
.

Tan Kin Lian

 

[GoldenDragon]

Chandra Das as Chairman of NTUC Income threatened Lam Soon Oil with boycott and demanded that they not sell knife brand to Carrefour. This was revealed by Lam Soon Oil in court. Chandra Das and NTUC were named.

Chandra Das used to chiong at a Japanese club along Middle Rd in the 90s. Honesty is not his forte. Made claims entertaining guests when none existed.

Can't confirm but there were rumours he was investigated by the CPIB before retiring.

KNNBCCB, kindly do the needful to this ah neh.

 

[Debonerman]

Tony, Hazel, Jeannette and Nicole. If you have been following this thread, you should be asking, if you guys are serious about GE 2016, whether you want to be involuntarily smeared by the shit generated by your sec general Goh Meng Seng.

Best form your own Opposition Party.

 

[seiyup warrior]

Hi Myfoot123

I concurred with your analysis on Tony Tan.I don't really trust this chap.Just look at the Straits Times feeding the populace with bullshit I do not know since when.He has a hand in the newspaper's editorial policy.

Incidentally was he the chap who was coerced to sue Mr Tang Liang Hong

 

[kukubird58]

hahahaha........some demi god claimed that he had been approached by 2 cabinet ministars to become MP and challenge GMS to do the same, but as usual he himself did not name the 2 cabinet ministars...
again it sets my mind thinking which ministars are more kuku than kukubird.

 

[Debonerman]

hahahaha........some demi god claimed that he had been approached by 2 cabinet ministars to become MP and challenge GMS to do the same, but as usual he himself did not name the 2 cabinet ministars...
again it sets my mind thinking which ministars are more kuku than kukubird.

He was challenging TKL aka Tan (durian) Ka Lau lah! Leave him alone in this thread please? We have time lah......

 

[jw5]

Would he like to comment about the petition and asking members of political parties to get his nomination forms?
Or does he think we have forgotten?

 

[achia4tkl]

This is what the man has to say in his defence. In the interest of informed debate I respectfully request readers to read the following or visit the links at the bottom.

================From Tan Kin Lian's blog:
There are a few people who have posted untrue statements about my past activities and current intentions in several blogs and websites.

Briefly, the remarks about me were:
 I have served as a powerful PAP branch secretary for 30 years
 I was disgruntled for not being invited to be a PAP MP
 I have been silent on national issues until recently
 Like other insurance companies, I was ripping off the policyholders of Income
 I used the opportunity of the mini-bond saga for political purpose

I wish to give the following facts, so that fair minded people can make their judgment of the facts and my character.

PAP Branch Secretary
I was branch secretary for Marine Parade for 3 years. I stepped down to become the chairman of the community center management committee. I did not want to hold many positions at the same time, and do not wish to be a "powerful" branch secretary. That position did not have much influence during my time, apart from organizing the weekly meet-the-people session. (Sorry, to give away this 'party secret').

Serving as PAP MP
I did not aspire to be a MP under the PAP. I was asked twice if I was interested, once in 1979 and again in 1985 (not sure about the dates).

I declined on both occasions - as I believed that a MP should be a full time job and I cannot do justice to this job, while running NTUC Income as the chief executive officer. I had a stronger reason in 1985, as I disagreed with the direction of the party policy (on national service, graduate mother scheme, etc).

Writing to the media
Over the past 25 years, I have written many letters that were published in the newspapers on several issues where I took positions that were different from the prevailing government policies.

Most notable were my views about national service - which disadvantaged our male citizens in competing for jobs against females and non-citizens. I believed then that it would have a significant negative impact on our country. We have now seen the decline in marriage and birth rates - of which national service for males is an important factor (but not the sole factor).

I have also made several suggestions on public transport, protection of consumers and other matters of concern to ordinary citizens. In most cases, there was no reply from the relevant authority – apart from the cursory acknowledgement. Many people knew me and my views through my letters published to the newspapers.

Serving the policyholders
Many policyholders of NTUC Income know that I run the insurance cooperative on the principles of honesty and fairness and in their best interests. I kept expenses low and was able to provide an attractive return on their life insurance savings, which is much better than those offered by other insurance companies. They are able to see the difference in how policyholders are treated, after I have retired from Income.

Helping the victims
The victims of the mini-bond saga knew that my primary purpose was to help them as much as I could during the difficult times. They appreciated my efforts and do not harbor any suspicion that I had a political motive (which I did not).

Many of them urged me to stand for Presidential Election so that they have a chance to vote for someone who is able to be independent of the Government. Several of them have written their endorsements of my character.

Tan Kin Lian

================

More about him can be found at
www.tankinlian.com
www.tankinlian.blogspot.com

 

[victoros]

My family will be supporting Tan Kin Lian during presidential election. He is the most suitable man for the job, from your experiences in NTUC income to
helping those who lost money in the financial crises.

Having witnessed Kin Lian speaking up for citizens who were embroiled in the mini-bond saga, I will have to say that I am impressed with the sacrifice that he have made in order to fight for the rights of these citizens.

 

[jw5]

This is what the man has to say in his defence. In the interest of informed debate I respectfully request readers to read the following or visit the links at the bottom.

Hello New forummer,

Thank you for your first post.
Before you posted this, did you happen to read any of the other posts in this thread? You might have noticed that GMS has already posted the response in full. And the reponse has been responded to as well.

 

[Windsor]

I will have to say that I am impressed with the sacrifice that he have made in order to fight for the rights of these citizens.

Pray tell us the many sacrifices that he has made as I don't recall any apart from the time he has to spent to help those rich people who were foolish enough to get involved in the mini-bonds.

 

[victoros]

Pray tell us the many sacrifices that he has made as I don't recall any apart from the time he has to spent to help those rich people who were foolish enough to get involved in the mini-bonds.

Please do not add salt onto those peoples that lost monies in the mini-bonds - and in fact, some of them were not rich peoples. Tan Kin Lian has also formed Financial Services Consumer Association (FiSCA) to improve financial literacy in Singapore, and raising various valuable issues to MAS, SMRT, LTA, PTC and others previously.

 

[Zombie]

Writing to the media
Over the past 25 years, I have written many letters that were published in the newspapers on several issues where I took positions that were different from the prevailing government
policies.

But not the most important issue?
I remember even GMS was so strongly against this.

http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/A...imes,today&fuzzysearch=Off&token=tan,kin,lian

 

[Perspective]

But not the most important issue?
I remember even GMS was so strongly against this.

http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/A...imes,today&fuzzysearch=Off&token=tan,kin,lian

I long know when it comes to forming working relations, he doesn't go by what is ideologically similar. He goes by who he can mutually scratch back with.