• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

What's the difference between cod liver oil and fish oil?

Johnny, if I may ask, beside medication and health supplement, what's your daily diet like now?

I take zero medication & plenty of supplements.
I'm trying to cut back on eating out. When I eat out I try to stick to the soups like fish soup & rice, but i know they use msg:(

When I eat at home it's usually spinach spaghetti(the green stuff) or whole wheat spaghetti with a veggie sauce using some fresh veggies & tomato sauce from alce nero available at NTUC.

As an alternative I also have salmon baked with lemon, some fresh spices, & baked potatoes. I have it with carrots & peas.

Sometimes I have a salad with Red Kellys salad sauce. It's fat free, no cholesterol, no artificial colors, no gm ingredients, however it still have preservative in it:( It's difficult to eliminate all those chemicals & preservatives.
 
I have always wondered whats the difference we boil a whole chicken in water, & drink the soup, filtering the oil etc..is it the same as Essence of Chicken?.

Probably the same but who has the time nowadays to catch a chicken & boil it:)

I suspect the quality of todays chickens are not equal to chickens of yester years. They now use alot of extras like hormones, antibiotics, etc
 
Must get the fresh sardines from the wet market & not the canned stuff.

Health problems is caused by all those chemicals, preservatives you find in canned foods. The majority of cooking oils you find in the supermarkets have been processed to extend shelf life which is good for the bottom line but unhealthy for humans.

Where can I find FRESH SARDINES in the wet market?, the only place I ever seen it being sold, I think it is the Market Place & it is not cheap!!
 
Probably the same but who has the time nowadays to catch a chicken & boil it:)

I suspect the quality of todays chickens are not equal to chickens of yester years. They now use alot of extras like hormones, antibiotics, etc

Even the co-called 'KAMPUNG" chicken we buy at premium prices are not from the kampung...the kampung chicken of the yesteryear run around the kampung and then again, some are artificially fed to make them fat, instead of giving them chicken feed or eat off the ground, some are fed grinded coconuts.

Guess, we eat in faith!:p
 
Where can I find FRESH SARDINES in the wet market?, the only place I ever seen it being sold, I think it is the Market Place & it is not cheap!!


Many Sporeans think nothing about getting a Merc, branded goods, go on holidays,.... at the expense of nutritious food. :)

The only meat i buy nowadays is Salmon. I've gone semi-vegetarian as it's cheaper & healthier
 
Many Sporeans think nothing about getting a Merc, branded goods, go on holidays,.... at the expense of nutritious food. :)

The only meat i buy nowadays is Salmon. I've gone semi-vegetarian as it's cheaper & healthier

I have a practice in days when I was working in the city of eating vegetables or being what we can in today's term a vegan, on a certain day of the week. I would eat in an Indian Vegetarian resturant or just pile my rice with vegetables & nothing else.

;)
 
I have a practice in days when I was working in the city of eating vegetables or being what we can in today's term a vegan, on a certain day of the week. I would eat in an Indian Vegetarian resturant or just pile my rice with vegetables & nothing else.

;)

I use to work in the Orchard Rd area & back then it was more convenient to eat at Burger King or MacD. The crowds at Far East/Lucky Plaza put me off from eating there.

Whenever I visit Mustaffa, I eat at one of the veggie restaurants in the area but I avoid rice because it makes me sleepy & sometimes causes my neck to hurt. I am amaze at the large amounts the indians eat. It's no wonder that they are so fat :)
 
Where can I find FRESH SARDINES in the wet market?, the only place I ever seen it being sold, I think it is the Market Place & it is not cheap!!

I got it once from Sheng Siong and wet market in AMK. 1 kilo selling for $5, about 16 fish. Sheng Siong selling something like $7 a kilo.
 
Correction, according to Udo it's better to eat fish rather than take fish oil, I quote:

http://www.udoerasmus.com/FAQ/FAQ4_en.htm

3. High fat, cold water fish such as sardines, salmon, trout, herring, and mackerel contain n-3 and n-6 derivatives. Eating fish is preferable to using fish oil capsules, due to contamination of fish oils with mercury, pesticides, and PCBs, and due to damage done to fish oils during processing.
Thanks for the advice Johnny.
These days, try my best to eat more fish like salmon sushi, fish soup, even economy rice with fish slice or occasionally the little luxury of whole fish.
Chicken is also ok, but find pork especially fatty pork or even pork ribs including bak kut teh unpalatable.
Hence fish is the way to go.
 
I use to work in the Orchard Rd area & back then it was more convenient to eat at Burger King or MacD. The crowds at Far East/Lucky Plaza put me off from eating there.

Whenever I visit Mustaffa, I eat at one of the veggie restaurants in the area but I avoid rice because it makes me sleepy & sometimes causes my neck to hurt. I am amaze at the large amounts the indians eat. It's no wonder that they are so fat :)

Whenever I've visited Mustafa, I'd walk all the through Syed Alwi to eat at Jalan Besar Plaza McDonald's. Indian food isn't my kind of dish. It looks grossly unhealthy even for vegetarian dishes. I'd trust Mc to change their oil every day but certainly not Little India eateries.
 
Whenever I've visited Mustafa, I'd walk all the through Syed Alwi to eat at Jalan Besar Plaza McDonald's. Indian food isn't my kind of dish. It looks grossly unhealthy even for vegetarian dishes. I'd trust Mc to change their oil every day but certainly not Little India eateries.



It's not about how often they change the oil but rather what type of oil they are using.

Fast food restaurants like MacD & KFC use trans fats oils(hydrogenated oils). It is these types of oils that are held responsible for causing obesity, diabetes, heart problems. Just look at america & the health problems they are having.

Not only do they use unhealthy oils, but they use alot of salt & sugar, in their foods:eek: I was a regular at these places before my heart attack:eek:
Now I avoid those places like the plague. When I see the kids eating at these places I see future diabetic & heart patients :rolleyes:

At the indian restaurants I don't select the fried foods. FYI: The indians use ghee for frying which is a healthier than using vegetable oils. I eat things like thosai which is baked fluor with onions & potatoes. With every dish they include vegetables. Previously I was not a fan of indian food but nowadays I'm eating for health, never mind if it's not as tasty:)

The reason I'm into udo cold press oils is because I'm trying to purge myself of the unhealthy oils that is stored in the cells of my body. It will take a few months but I'm already seeing some improvements in better complexion.
 
Thanks for the advice Johnny.
These days, try my best to eat more fish like salmon sushi, fish soup, even economy rice with fish slice or occasionally the little luxury of whole fish.
Chicken is also ok, but find pork especially fatty pork or even pork ribs including bak kut teh unpalatable.
Hence fish is the way to go.

Don't want to alarm you but you should know that:
Fish from the sea may have some mercury & PCB.
Chickens are filled with hormones & antibiotics
Vegetable have pesticides

Is it any wonder that people are dying younger:rolleyes:
That why if you visit the book store there are alot of books on detoxing :)
 
It's not about how often they change the oil but rather what type of oil they are using.

Fast food restaurants like MacD & KFC use trans fats oils(hydrogenated oils). It is these types of oils that are held responsible for causing obesity, diabetes, heart problems. Just look at america & the health problems they are having.

Not only do they use unhealthy oils, but they use alot of salt & sugar, in their foods:eek: I was a regular at these places before my heart attack:eek:
Now I avoid those places like the plague. When I see the kids eating at these places I see future diabetic & heart patients :rolleyes:

At the indian restaurants I don't select the fried foods. FYI: The indians use ghee for frying which is a healthier than using vegetable oils. I eat things like thosai which is baked fluor with onions & potatoes. With every dish they include vegetables. Previously I was not a fan of indian food but nowadays I'm eating for health, never mind if it's not as tasty:)

I don't have any weight or medical problem. I've been eating at Mc and KFC all my life. I think the obesity problem in US is about over-eating, not really the type of food.

Prata is alright for me, since I can see that it's freshly fried to order. The curry is suspect though. I just dip sparingly for taste. I've tried thosai once too, not my taste.
 
I don't have any weight or medical problem. I've been eating at Mc and KFC all my life. I think the obesity problem in US is about over-eating, not really the type of food.

.

How old are you, 20's?, 30's?,.....:confused:

In the past the vulnerable age was 40's onwards, but with the new generation younger people are being affected.

More people in their 20's & 30's are getting serious problems nowadays like cancer, diabetes, allergies, etc. You might be lucky because you have good genes & lifestyle but if you don't watch out you'll find out the hard way like I did :( It's always easier to avoid a problem then to cure it.

There's lots of info available on the net about the dangers of "trans fats"
 
:confused:

Cod liver oil cheaper, doesn't need refrigeration.

Fish oil more expensive, needs refrigeration.

:confused:

wahlaneh...
cod is a kind of fish very oily one.
cod liver oil must have been taken out from its liver lor.:D
but other fish oil not sure what kind of fish leh?:confused:
 
Fast food restaurants like MacD & KFC use trans fats oils(hydrogenated oils). It is these types of oils that are held responsible for causing obesity, diabetes, heart problems. Just look at america & the health problems they are having.

What's hydrogenated oil? If it's so unhealthy, is it so cheap that the fast food chains have to insist on using it? Do western food hawker stalls use it too? :confused:
 
What's hydrogenated oil? If it's so unhealthy, is it so cheap that the fast food chains have to insist on using it? Do western food hawker stalls use it too? :confused:

Hydrogenated oils have a longer shelf life & this makes it cheaper to store & distribute. As it's cheaper I bet alot of hawkers in Spore are using it :(

In the US, some states like California has banned trans oils.
In the supermarket I see alot of cookies are still using hydrogenated oils.

If you suffer from a serious illness I recommend that one of the first things you should do is eliminate trans fat oils from your diet. While I was in the hospital for a heart problem, breakfast included margarine which is a trans fat oil:eek:

If people are interested to know about the dangers of trans fats go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fat

I'll paste the parts about the illnesses these oils cause:

Health risks

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils have been an increasingly significant part of the human diet for about 100 years (in particular, since the later half of the 20th century and where more processed foods are consumed), and some deleterious effects of trans fat consumption are scientifically accepted, forming the basis of the health guidelines discussed above.

The exact biochemical methods by which trans fats produce specific health problems are a topic of continuing research. One theory is that the human lipase enzyme works only on the cis configuration and cannot metabolize a trans fat. A lipase is a water-soluble enzyme that helps digest, transport, and process dietary lipids such as triglycerides, fats, and oils in most – if not all – living organisms. The human lipase enzyme is ineffective against the trans configuration[citation needed], so trans fat remains in the blood stream for a much longer period of time and is more prone to arterial deposition and subsequent plaque formation[citation needed]. While the mechanisms through which trans fats contribute to coronary heart disease are fairly well understood, the mechanism for trans fat's effect on diabetes is still under investigation.

Coronary heart disease

The primary health risk identified for trans fat consumption is an elevated risk of coronary heart disease (CHD).[38] A comprehensive review of studies of trans fats was published in 2006 in the New England Journal of Medicine reports a strong and reliable connection between trans fat consumption and CHD, concluding that "On a per-calorie basis, trans fats appear to increase the risk of CHD more than any other macronutrient, conferring a substantially increased risk at low levels of consumption (1 to 3% of total energy intake)".[4] This study estimates that between 30,000 and 100,000 cardiac deaths per year in the United States are attributable to the consumption of trans fats.[39]

The major evidence for the effect of trans fat on CHD comes from the Nurses' Health Study — a cohort study that has been following 120,000 female nurses since its inception in 1976. In this study, Hu and colleagues analyzed data from 900 coronary events from the study's population during 14 years of followup. He determined that a nurse's CHD risk roughly doubled (relative risk of 1.94, CI: 1.43 to 2.61) for each 2% increase in trans fat calories consumed (instead of carbohydrate calories). By contrast, it takes more than a 15% increase in saturated fat calories (instead of carbohydrate calories) to produce a similar increase in risk. "The replacement of saturated fat or trans unsaturated fat by cis (unhydrogenated) unsaturated fats was associated with larger reductions in risk than an isocaloric replacement by carbohydrates."[40] Hu also reports on the benefits of reducing trans fat consumption. Replacing 2% of food energy from trans fat with non-trans unsaturated fats more than halves the risk of CHD (53%). By comparison, replacing a larger 5% of food energy from saturated fat with non-trans unsaturated fats reduces the risk of CHD by 43%.[40]

Another study considered deaths due to CHD, with consumption of trans fats being linked to an increase in mortality, and consumption of polyunsaturated fats being linked to a decrease in mortality.[38][41]

There are two accepted tests that measure an individual's risk for coronary heart disease, both blood tests. The first considers ratios of two types of cholesterol, the other the amount of a cell-signalling cytokine called C-reactive protein. The ratio test is more accepted, while the cytokine test may be more powerful but is still being studied.[38] The effect of trans fat consumption has been documented on each as follows:

* Cholesterol ratio: This ratio compares the levels of LDL (so-called "bad" cholesterol) to HDL (so-called "good" cholesterol). Trans fat behaves like saturated fat by raising the level of LDL, but, unlike saturated fat, it has the additional effect of decreasing levels of HDL. The net increase in LDL/HDL ratio with trans fat is approximately double that due to saturated fat.[42] (Higher ratios are worse.) One randomized crossover study published in 2003 comparing the effect of eating a meal on blood lipids of (relatively) cis and trans fat rich meals showed that cholesteryl ester transfer (CET) was 28% higher after the trans meal than after the cis meal and that lipoprotein concentrations were enriched in apolipoprotein(a) after the trans meals.[43]
* C-reactive protein (CRP): A study of over 700 nurses showed that those in the highest quartile of trans fat consumption had blood levels of CRP that were 73% higher than those in the lowest quartile.[44]

Other effects

There are suggestions that the negative consequences of trans fat consumption go beyond the cardiovascular risk. In general, there is much less scientific consensus asserting that eating trans fat specifically increases the risk of other chronic health problems:

* Alzheimer's Disease: A study published in Archives of Neurology in February 2003 suggested that the intake of both trans fats and saturated fats promote the development of Alzheimer disease.[45]
* Cancer: There is no scientific consensus that consumption of trans fats significantly increases cancer risks across the board.[38] The American Cancer Society states that a relationship between trans fats and cancer "has not been determined."[46] However, one recent study has found connections between trans fat and prostate cancer.[47] An increased intake of trans fatty acids may raise the risk of breast cancer by 75%, suggest the results from the French part of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition.[48][49]
* Diabetes: There is a growing concern that the risk of type 2 diabetes increases with trans fat consumption.[38] However, consensus has not been reached.[4] For example, one study found that risk is higher for those in the highest quartile of trans fat consumption.[50] Another study has found no diabetes risk once other factors such as total fat intake and BMI were accounted for.[51]
* Obesity: Research indicates that trans fat may increase weight gain and abdominal fat, despite a similar caloric intake.[52] A 6-year experiment revealed that monkeys fed a trans fat diet gained 7.2% of their body weight, as compared to 1.8% for monkeys on a mono-unsaturated fat diet.[53][54] Although obesity is frequently linked to trans fat in the popular media,[55] this is generally in the context of eating too many calories; there is not a strong scientific consensus connecting trans fat and obesity, although the 6-year experiment did find such a link, concluding that "under controlled feeding conditions, long-term TFA consumption was an independent factor in weight gain. TFAs enhanced intra-abdominal deposition of fat, even in the absence of caloric excess, and were associated with insulin resistance, with evidence that there is impaired post-insulin receptor binding signal transduction."[54]
* Liver Dysfunction: Trans fats are metabolized differently by the liver than other fats and interfere with delta 6 desaturase. Delta 6 desaturase is an enzyme involved in converting essential fatty acids to arachidonic acid and prostaglandins, both of which are important to the functioning of cells.[56]
* Infertility in women: One 2007 study found, "Each 2% increase in the intake of energy from trans unsaturated fats, as opposed to that from carbohydrates, was associated with a 73% greater risk of ovulatory infertility...".[57]
 
Hydrogenated oils have a longer shelf life & this makes it cheaper to store & distribute. As it's cheaper I bet alot of hawkers in Spore are using it :(

In the US, some states like California has banned trans oils.
In the supermarket I see alot of cookies are still using hydrogenated oils.

If you suffer from a serious illness I recommend that one of the first things you should do is eliminate trans fat oils from your diet. While I was in the hospital for a heart problem, breakfast included margarine which is a trans fat oil:eek:

When I was in hospital in Singapore, post-IV drip to solid diet, my breakfast was usually porridge and carrot cake, lunch and dinner, rice, some variety of meat and veggie, and soup. I've visited a friend in US hospital before. He was served something that looked like McD value meal, burger, fries and apple pie, only less the coke, replaced with hot choc.
 
Back
Top